TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[mastina]

(Also, pretty sure Ceph's scum here now.)

the worst
Ythan
DrippingGoofball
Titus
Albert B. Rampage
Dannflor
Hopkirk
Xtoxm

Almost50
unwnd
Dunnstral
innocentvillager

Uncrowned

OkaPoka

AGar

Cephrir
hercule

Locktown lean town guessing-town guessing-scum leaning-scum scumreading.

Pagetopping this. <3

[Dunnstral]

Oka feels like town through the last few pages

[mastina]

Oka feels like town through the last few pages

I'll let you know when I get to them.

[mastina]

Hi. Uncrowned here. Ythan is Town. ABR is probably Town. Dunnstral is probably Town. Hopkirk's reasoning on JV's intro is reasonable, but I believe it is NAI for JV given the history between them, myself and The Worst. I don't think a teammate reading the game is indicative of anything, but I guess I get the sentiment? I don't think The Worst has been that awkward, I think that's just how he be sometimes.

(This post is utterly null to me btw--the reads/reasons all are good/solid imo but the way they are given looks like it very well could be just scum presenting good reads.)

[the worst]

OH SHIT IT'S MASTINA WHAT'S UP

[the worst]

oh you're the new JV
I'm tentative and scared but still excited

[OkaPoka]

never had the makings of a varsity athlete

[mastina]

(For the record Winter Flakes's tone feels very very fake, very very artificial.
I'm somewhat doubting the innocentvillager townread, which I can afford to do, but the townpings aren't gone, just...in flux, to a state of ambivalence.)

[mastina]

oh you're the new JV
I'm tentative and scared but still excited

Scumclaim since I am town and the only reason to thus be scared of me is if they're scum.













































































































(<3 the worst)

[OkaPoka]

just fwiw mastina, when you catchup you should put a post number or a page number so we know what you are talking about

i assume you are posting this catchup publicly for us to read so

[the worst]

Xtoxm (8): OkaPoka, hercule,

the worst

,

DrippingGoofball

, Dunnstral,

Cephrir

, Albert B. Rampage, Titus

Literally my top 3 SRs are on the wagon. Sorry, but I won't be touching this wagon.

P.S. Xtoxm is indeed LHF as either alignment. He's a low poster. HOWEVER, check his signature. Don't you think there would be at least some resistance to his wagon if he had a team? I don't even see anyone @ L-7 when he is @ L-2 already

that's definitely occurred to me, but also kinda meh

I don't think it was particularly easy to oppose this wagon after oka and I tore into xtoxm about his read

SS is rereading parts of this game rather than sleeping and just remarked like 5 minutes ago about how bad xtoxm's Titus read was

it's kind of the sloppiest read itt atm and I just want more from xtoxm

[OkaPoka]

overthinking the lhf argument and such isn't really worth it until xtoxm comes in a responds to the wagon himself which i presume he will do when he shows up again

[the worst]

I mostly like refuting A50 from time to time because I don't want him to feel too in control

[OkaPoka]

that's the meanest thing ive ever seen you say ducky

[the worst]

want me to dig up three meaner things that I've said in this thread?

[OkaPoka]

if you want to lmao

[mastina]

Through page 10.

the worst
Ythan
DrippingGoofball
Titus
Albert B. Rampage
Dannflor
Hopkirk
Xtoxm

Almost50
unwnd
Dunnstral
innocentvillager

OkaPoka

Uncrowned

AGar

Cephrir
hercule

Yes, Oka and Uncrowned have traded places, tho I admit that's in part due to Oka-tw's conversation right now.
But also Uncrowned just doesn't sound town at all.

[the worst]

what happened to the classic "mastina catchup" structure?

[mastina]

what happened to the classic "mastina catchup" structure?

Where I don't stay up to date on the current things but read past pages?

I almost never do it when I am a replacement, and when I do, it's probably due to the game being a manageable length where I can read it in one go, in like the span of an hour, and then posts made after my replacement I can read as I finish the readthrough.

But for a game of this length, doing so is impossible, so it's necessary to make a choice:
Read the current posts while also catching up...
...Or stay behind for days, literal days, missing all of the new content no matter how important it may be. Having no clue what the votes are, having no clue how much time is in the game, having no clue what claims are made, and potentially, wasting huge amounts of time, both my own and that of others. (To give a hypothetical example, say someone was an outed mason--if I was unaware of that, then reading through the thread, I'd be wasting time trying to read the mason, as an example.)

This is just the smarter approach as a replacement.

Tho that said.
I have read 13 pages, but at this point I'm not critically analyzing what I'm reading anymore. Reading it to understand game events would be fine, but reading it to analyze it is something I can no longer do. So, unable to analyze the earlier pages critically, I'll just do this:

Xtoxm (8): OkaPoka,

hercule

, the worst, DrippingGoofball, Dunnstral,

Cephrir

, Albert B. Rampage, Titus

Guess where I think the scum are here?

[Xtoxm]

auro wishes for me to call out 1833 as fake news, his read was unrelated to iv.
he is a fan of mastina and would possibly be willing to sheep her on d1.
he also notes that he dislikes 1917.
paraphrased.

[OkaPoka]

mmk fair enough

but you did double down on the whole titus thing, are you sticking by your titus read for the same reasons?

[the worst]

what happened to the classic "mastina catchup" structure?

Where I don't stay up to date on the current things but read past pages?

I almost never do it when I am a replacement, and when I do, it's probably due to the game being a manageable length where I can read it in one go, in like the span of an hour, and then posts made after my replacement I can read as I finish the readthrough.

But for a game of this length, doing so is impossible, so it's necessary to make a choice:
Read the current posts while also catching up...
...Or stay behind for days, literal days, missing all of the new content no matter how important it may be. Having no clue what the votes are, having no clue how much time is in the game, having no clue what claims are made, and potentially, wasting huge amounts of time, both my own and that of others. (To give a hypothetical example, say someone was an outed mason--if I was unaware of that, then reading through the thread, I'd be wasting time trying to read the mason, as an example.)

This is just the smarter approach as a replacement.

Tho that said.

i don't disagree at all - i'm liking your style of catchup here (though curious as ever to see how your reads progress as you like, get closer to present - i feel like the start of this game was very dense and there's more fluff pages later on)

[the worst]

auro wishes for me to call out 1833 as fake news, his read was unrelated to iv.
he is a fan of mastina and would possibly be willing to sheep her on d1.
he also notes that he dislikes 1917.
paraphrased.

1) can auro flesh out his read? can you flesh out your read?
2) also a fan of mastina, rarely practically actually sheep anyone d1, her read progression tends to be about 30 times juicier than her initial reads
3) what is there to dislike about 1917....lol

[mastina]

Vote Count 1.14

Xtoxm

(7): OkaPoka, hercule, the worst, DrippingGoofball, Dunnstral, Cephrir, Titus

AGar

(2): Dannflor, Ythan

Titus

(2): AGar, innocentvillager

DrippingGoofball

(2): Almost50, unwnd

mastina

(1): Winter Flakes

hercule

(1): mastina

unwnd

(1): Hopkirk

the worst

(1): Albert B. Rampage

Not Voting

(1): Xtoxm

For the record: I would like to reiterate that I don't think the Xtoxm wagon's very good. I don't think it's scumdriven, per se, but I think it's a wagon on town that has scum on it.

The AGar wagon is pretty good, would support; the Titus wagon? Less so. I'm disinclined to wagon DGB since literally the only reason I could ever think of for her to be scum is that she's saner than I am used to seeing from her play. And that should be fairly self-evident for why it's not a good place to vote imo.

I do townread unwnd and the worst, tho while I would discourage a tw wagon D1 I can't as strongly defend unwnd.

But I do need to catch up on the game. (Like I said, it'll be difficult right now, am weirdly tired for no good reason which makes critical analysis of posts a bit harder; I've been reading posts but not truly processing/analyzing them. So may have to wait for tomorrow. By which time I'll hopefully have the connection to my team to help back me up, too.)

I do feel like my reads are in a pretty good spot right now. I doubt they're perfect, but for D1 they just feel pretty damn good/reasonably strong. I just need to critically analyze the pages to follow to see if it holds.

[mastina]

Vote Count 1.7

AGar

(8): Titus, unwnd, Cephrir, OkaPoka, Dannflor, DrippingGoofball, Albert B. Rampage, Ythan

Winter Flakes

(2): hercule, JacksonVirgo

the worst

(1): Hopkirk

Ythan

(1): Almost50

JacksonVirgo

(1): the worst

innocentvillager

(1): Dunnstral

OkaPoka

(1): innocentvillager

Cephrir

(1): AGar

Almost50

(1): Winter Flakes

Not Voting

(1): Xtoxm

For the record--that AGar wagon, aside from Ceph (who I'm inclined to believe would bus here if scum anyway), looks awfully sexy. The names joining and the order they joined look highly town-driven. It just feels pure. That doesn't guarantee the wagon's on scum (towndriven wagons on town are a thing), but I definitely would encourage people to revisit this because it feels good.

Vote Count 1.9 (unchanged)

AGar

(6): Titus, unwnd, Cephrir, Dannflor, DrippingGoofball, Ythan

Titus

(4): AGar, innocentvillager, OkaPoka, the worst

Winter Flakes

(2): hercule, JacksonVirgo

the worst

(2): Hopkirk, Albert B. Rampage

Ythan

(1): Almost50

innocentvillager

(1): Dunnstral

JacksonVirgo

(1): Winter Flakes

Not Voting

(1): Xtoxm

Here the Titus wagon is pretty terrible tho. While I townread the worst here and don't want him to be eliminated, the dude IS a don corelone level scum player so I could be wrong on him and him be scum here. (Basically: I townread tw, but if I were to be wrong on him and if he were to be scum, it'd be due to being in a spot like on Titus here, the cw to AGar.) OkaPoka and IV are two of the slots most in flux so I could easily see them as scum.

Basically, the Titus wagon is absolute ass. It's probably still mostly town. Anywhere from 2-4 town on it. Probably 3. But it's pretty terrible here compared to the AGar wagon whose only black spot is Cephrir (who would bus anyway).

I'm not sure AGar is scum, but I do lean that way so if the choices were Xtoxm or AGar, I'd hop to AGar in a heartbeat.

Right now I'm fine with my vote on hercule tho, vanity vote be damned. (And could easily swap to Winter Flakes. Still vanity there.)