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[Mizzytastic]

caffeine (n.)

trimethyl-derivative of xanthine, 1830, from German

Kaffein

, coined by chemist F.F. Runge (1795-1867), apparently from German

Kaffee

"coffee" (see

coffee

) + chemical suffix

-ine

(2) (German

-in

). So called because the alkaloid was found in coffee beans; its presence accounts for the stimulating effect of coffee and tea. The form of the English word may be via French

caféine

. Related:

Caffeinic

.

Official Votecount 4.5

BBMolla (5): Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE

[E-3]

PlusJOYED (4): Titus, Momrangal, BBMolla, chkflip
Luca Blight (1): Andresvmb
chkflip (1): quiet

Not Voting (3): Vaxkiller, Binatog13, PlusJOYED

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

[Andresvmb]

Well except Luca. That slot is still very much Scum.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: BBMolla

[Andresvmb]

Gamma is 100% Town. After re-reading, I am not going back on that one.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well except Luca. That slot is still very much Scum.

So you vote BBMolla but Luca is scum?
Luca is on the wagon you know?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you’re going to be introspective then might as well add on that you are wrong about Luca too.

[Momrangal]

Andre, Andre, Andre

I don't think you need to worry about plus flipping town

[Andresvmb]

If you’re going to be introspective then might as well add on that you are wrong about Luca too.

You don’t think Scum ever bus eh?

[Andresvmb]

Andre, Andre, Andre

I don't think you need to worry about plus flipping town

No you’re right maybe I don’t.

I TR’ed BBMolla’s reactions today. I did. And I could potentially succumb to reading too much into D1. But I just find the way some slots really tried to divert pressure away from Cheeky (and looking at myself, I look plenty dumb) to be bad, and BBMolla is being rightly pressured for calling the votes on Cheeky boring.

[Andresvmb]

Anyway let me finish reading I’m still trying to just deep dive this game for once and figure out what’s going on.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you’re going to be introspective then might as well add on that you are wrong about Luca too.

You don’t think Scum ever bus eh?

Of course i do, i’m not stupid.
But if you read events of today and think Luca is bussing BBMolla then idk what to tell you man. I think it’s just tunneling.

[NorwegianboyEE]

As in, i think you might be just tunneling.

[Andresvmb]

As in, i think you might be just tunneling.

Maybe.

[chkflip]

BBMolla is being rightly pressured for calling the votes on Cheeky boring

You think E-2 is good for being bored D1?

That's really what you're saying to me right now?

[Mizzytastic]

PlusJOYED

has been prodded.

[Andresvmb]

BBMolla is being rightly pressured for calling the votes on Cheeky boring

You think E-2 is good for being bored D1?

That's really what you're saying to me right now?

It’s not just that obviously. From looking closer at D1, they shaded Mini in 600, which is the same thing Luca does in 592 while ignoring the pressure building on Cheeky (Luca, not Cheeky). In fact, Luca’s first signal that they might be open to voting Cheeky comes in 715, after multiple key votes by {Norwegian, quiet}.

And 538 is a good post to keep in mind.

I also found Vax’s vote moving away from Cheeky in 621 to be interesting. But since Mini was the execution N1 (or father, Mathblade), I don’t know what to make of it.

[Andresvmb]

(Luca, not Cheeky)

(Luca, not BBMolla)*

[Andresvmb]

And 538 is a good post to keep in mind.

As in, if BBMolla flips Scum, then DGB is most likely good.

[Andresvmb]

Those read like a bunch of random thoughts, but it made sense in my head hahaha

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Titus

Reason:
A: Mathblade kill points to Titus
B: Their VCA is bad and they are pushing the vote on likely town.

Mathblade kill would be Titus purposefully and for no reason framing herself

Is that what you’re saying in A?

I’m not saying it’s wrong cause Titus could pull that I just want to be clear that the most blatant reason for Maths death was to frame Titus and Titus scum would be aware of that

Ok so my thoughts are this:
Scum!Titus (obviously) knows killing Mathblade would implicate her and thusly it would seem pointless to assume this makes Titus scum because mafia typically don't make dumb plays. But Mathblade replacing into a town slot (which we know because doh they died) could in theory be even more catastrophic for scum!Titus because Mathblade has a lot of knowledge about Titus and how they play, so if Titus knows Mathblade might potentially expose her as scum then it is worth the effort of killing the slot and then dealing with the potential aftermath rather than needing to fight Mathblade head on.

Eh all this seems wifom'y I mean cant scum!anyone just frame titus?

[Andresvmb]

I'm pretty good at reading Norwegian (I literally just caught him as scum in a Newbie) and I'm pretty sure he is Town this game.

Andres is obvtown. I think Bypasser is Town as well.

I'd be surprised if Not_Mafia wasn't scum, given the history of the slot more than anything. I could see scum distancing themselves from it, or even actively bussing it.

Okay, MAYBE I’ve been tunneling you Luca. I actually think this is good.

I was an idiot D1 anyway.

[Vaxkiller]

Scum!Titus (obviously) knows killing Mathblade would implicate her

Here's the thing.

I once won a large game as a SK because every single night I killed the player that suspected me the most.

So I pay no heed to the theory that Titus would hold off NK'ing MathBlade for fear of being implicated. There are many players who wouldn't want to go against town!MathBlade as scum, that provide Titus cover.

Still town.

[Vaxkiller]

After post 3082 im ready to vote bbmolla, but I don't want to hammer before the end of the day, in case anyone has more to say. BECAUSE I KNOW HOW THAT FEELS!

[Gamma Emerald]

I started re-reading the entire game, because I really wanted to focus on a lot of the stuff I felt I missed about how the Cheeky wagon came about.

plus is a bad execution here. And @Titus I think you’re Town, but you tying plus’ flip to mine is giving Scum cover.

I don’t have an exact feel here but I’m inclined to think you’re right off memory
Who do think is scum from rereading that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Well except Luca. That slot is still very much Scum.

Yeah that’s the read I expected you to follow up with after putting PJ as town