Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

yeah, honestly, we kinda solved the game

Unwnd, Titus, Ydrasse.

Words can't express how sad I am if Ydrasse is scum here

I don’t see why scum!Ydrasse positions me as confitown because that’s essentially what she did by explaining why Hectic never picks me with town stump FL. That’s a helluva lot more than a pocket besides scum!Dann never said anything about her in any of his posts and I think there would be some kind of associatives between them if they were buddies.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Sweet dreams are made of this

who am i to disagree?

I travel the world and the seven seas.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

How did you guess? Or was I just that obvious lmao

I'm not against the idea of you doing this as scum either, but yeah.

You never live through this game as scum anymore, so it's a weird path.

Ydrasse/Chara I will trust.

Gamma mason.

Yeah that makes sense with Gamma’s play here.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I'm just gonna until I can go back to being a hydra with alisae to actually do anything mkay
also lol chara

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

if catboi actually deepwolf wins this I am going to do an ABSURD amount of gloating

Why do you think it’s him?

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I got a cool song
Will read tom

VOTE: venus hydra

Bad vote. It’s should be obvious to you now I’m not scum here. *smdh*

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

i really thought ydrasse was gonna be dead.

She's scum =/

i don't nkow how to tell u this.

ur wrong mr leaf

I don’t think scum!Ydrasse pockets me this blatantly.

I was drafted by scum stump FL in the last game where Hectic was goon cop, so why would scum!Hectic draft me, when he would have to know that there’s no possible way in hell I’d ever be able to fool town stump FL in pretty much an almost identical setup

and that’s exactly what Ydrasse pointed out and I don’t see why she does that as scum. Scum!Ydrasse might try to pocket me but position me as pretty much confitown, I don’t see why, so I agree with you.

@Skitter and anyone who seriously thinks there’s a world where scum!me fools town!FL in the almost identical setting where I was drafted by scum stump FL in the last game.

Also, I’m not that much of a dumbass that I try to save my dying buddy.

[Ydrasse]

does anybody need my boonie hug?

i will sacrifice my hammer today since SOMEONE took it yesterday.... i can’t have a perfect streak

also me so i can be next to you again ;-;

[Ydrasse]

i'm behaving in an out of character way as well. it started out having a purpose, but now i just want Ydrasse's attention.

pedit: hi skitter!! good night. sleep tight. let the bedbugs bite.
everyone deserves to eat.

you have it now!!!!

[skitter30]

I got a cool song
Will read tom

VOTE: venus hydra

Bad vote. It’s should be obvious to you now I’m not scum here. *smdh*

Your slot was kinda scummy yesterday and spent quite a lot of eod trying to towncase/defend dannflor and deflect the wagon from him

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Your slot was kinda scummy yesterday and spent quite a lot of eod trying to towncase/defend dannflor and deflect the wagon from him

What?? I'm the beacon of towniness. Townplayer exemplar

-Pluto (Auro)

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I got a cool song
Will read tom

VOTE: venus hydra

Bad vote. It’s should be obvious to you now I’m not scum here. *smdh*

Your slot was kinda scummy yesterday and spent quite a lot of eod trying to towncase/defend dannflor and deflect the wagon from him

Yeah and you claim to be good at reading associatives. Do you really think Dann hard towncases his buddies like he did me?

Yes because I read him wrongly but when chk hard defended him, I thought I was right on Dann town. Did you read what I wrote? Do you honestly think Hectic picks me when FL is town stump? This is almost the same identical setup to the one where scum stump FL drafted me and Hectic was in that game too, so it would be insane for him to think I could ever fool FL here because he would 100% catch me which is exactly what Ydrasse was saying.

Did you spectate Pooky vs. Flavor Leaf and do you think I’m playing even remotely similar here to that game? And if the answer is no, do you think it possible that scum!me can radically change my play in almost identical setup which very recently ended?

[skitter30]

Nancy i didnt spec that game and cant really adequately judge what hectic or fl would or would not do to your slot because of that

So arguments bases on that logic dont really mean anything to me

I do know that your eod looked partner-y to me, and like you were trying to move the wagon elsewhere, so i am voting you

I dont remember dann hardtowncasing your slot, but perhaps i missed it. Can u requote it please?

Auro u also are being somewhat scummy

[catboi]

VOTE: Morning Tweet

I changed my mind.

I think Tweetie was the likely counterwagon to scum.

Calling it a "counterwagon" is overly generous given that it peaked at 3 votes while the stump was calling for Dann to be killed, and Dann's vote there doesn't really make any sense from a self-preservationist perspective. I'll have more later.

[Red]

How many bussers on the wagon were there? ...well, it was all 3 of them. One by one, they murdered everyone. VOTE: Ydrasse

[Red]

CHKFLIP, YOUR SERVICE WAS GREATLY APPRECIATED

IM SORRY YOU DIED BEFORE YOUR TIME BROTHER

He begged for his life before I killed him.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I feel like a lot of what you're doing around the slot is not very genuine? Like I understand people having personality clashes with the slot and not really understanding how they tend to function, but skitter has told you multiple times that Nancy's rather reactive reads aren't AI indicative for the slot, so your repeated efforts to try and get something else out the slot feel like busywork.

Like the quality of them not wanting to "talk about anything but themselves and how much they should be townread" is not a basis for a scum read on that slot, something skitter knows and has tried to tell you multiple times. The reason I'm so wary is Nancy is a very easy scum read to hold because of how reactive she can be to reads on her. I don't really get the sense from your prodding of the slot that you're trying to solve the slot by getting their opinions on other people.

Instead you're doing this LAMISTy thing where you tell them to solve and not worry about reads on them instead of like... actually digging deeper into your scum read on them?

If you haven't encountered this type of player before I understand having an aversion to the slot at first, but it seems like you're using a shallow first impression to push a scum read instead of going any number of levels deeper

That's a very circumstantial and a bit uninformed look about our interactions, I don't know why you made assumptions based on one or two instances of dialogue, given there is more to it. I've asked her to clarify on her reads (and other things such as her 'THERE MUST BE SCUM IN THE GAMMA VOTES') and instead she just goes back to essentially 'well you should townread me and im obvtown' you can see this for yourself. As for why I try to appease to her and say 'im not scumreading you for being nancy and I can't read AtE'? Should explain itself. At some point I have to make a logical conclusion that there is ulterior motive and that she is having trouble faking reads, so to make up for that she just ignores the necessity to do so.

I might have some bias given that I've played a lot with Nancy and feel like I have a pretty good idea of how to read her and also how to get her to produce content.

But I will say the 'well you should townread me and im obvtown' is largely alignment indicative, but comes out much more and with much fuller force when she's town. Mostly because I think she has trouble lying about things like that. There have been a few times as scum where Nancy has just dodged the question when I've straight up asked "should I be town reading you," which is why I'm town leaning the slot so far this game.

I think you'll find Auro to be the more readable part of the hydra from your perspective. I admit I still haven't read everything but have you interacted with that part of the hydra at all yet?

Told you all, Dann is town.

Nancy I don't actually think you should be town reading me

Ask Auro what his read on me his, I think he would have a decent barometer

A big scumtell for me is lack of sensitivity and just wanting to seem like I know right answers

As town I'm a bleeding heart and almost always give someone benefit of the doubt, sue me

no that's fair, I'm like that too to an extent

I think Nancy places a lot of value in getting town read, like if she's not getting town read then that's her number one priority as town before trying to figure out other people's alignments. In general, I think she approaches people on an individual basis based on how they relate to her. So if she doesn't believe someone's read on her she hyperfocuses on that.

In fact I think she's a very sensitive player in that she's sensitive to how people are reading her and want it to be *correct* so when it's not she has to decide whether they're scum or wrong town.

@Skitter

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Your slot was kinda scummy yesterday and spent quite a lot of eod trying to towncase/defend dannflor and deflect the wagon from him

What?? I'm the beacon of towniness. Townplayer exemplar

-Pluto (Auro)

You’re cracking me up here. lmaooo

[Five Candles]

This game is solved.

Merlin should just claim at this point, they're obvious.

[Starcrossed]

if catboi actually deepwolf wins this I am going to do an ABSURD amount of gloating

Why do you think it’s him?

It's a low probability high payout bet.

if he's town I will quietly forget about I ever said this.

if he's scum and wins I will get to gloat to skitter/boonskies :3

[Five Candles]

The masons are in here for anyone interested:

Venus Mars and Pluto
Titus
skitter30
Ydrasse

[Starcrossed]

Sweet dreams are made of this

who am i to disagree?

I travel the world and the seven seas.

Everybody's searching for something...

[Starcrossed]

CHKFLIP, YOUR SERVICE WAS GREATLY APPRECIATED

IM SORRY YOU DIED BEFORE YOUR TIME BROTHER

He begged for his life before I killed him.

you're not very good at mason hunting dude

should've recruited me. I could've given you the whole setup by now

[Five Candles]

The vig was the higher priority kill,

soul mason

.

Obvious from the way chk was playing that he really did not want to attract a nightkill. Hilarious that Boon put even more targets on his back.

[Starcrossed]

The vig was the higher priority kill,

soul mason

.

Obvious from the way chk was playing that he really did not want to attract a nightkill. Hilarious that Boon put even more targets on his back.

flippy really is the worst at hiding a PR :O

none can hide from your vision