TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[Dunnstral]

Oka is a like a lightning rod for thread activity/engagement

That was the intent with the circle lol

That's not the way I've been playing the game, or viewing it

why the FUCK are people townreading him

Because he's pretty transparently town in the content he has posted.

No... he really isn't

And we continually wagon other people around him

[Dunnstral]

ugh sorry guys I don’t know what the best way to get back into this is, I’m so far behind at this point and don’t have the motivation to read the last 50 pages

You don't need to read it

[OkaPoka]

ugh sorry guys I don’t know what the best way to get back into this is, I’m so far behind at this point and don’t have the motivation to read the last 50 pages

its fine honestly, last 50 pages were a bunch of dancing around xtoxm, abr, and agar

if you want, wait for mastina to case agar and see if your into that

[innocentvillager]

one thing that is annoying to me is that like, there seems to be a okay reason to townlean like everyone in this game who is actively posting

I genuinely do not have any scumleans

[the worst]

ugh sorry guys I don’t know what the best way to get back into this is, I’m so far behind at this point and don’t have the motivation to read the last 50 pages

Retro IV meta you were incapable of making this post as scum lmaooo

anyway sorry

yeah what Dunn is saying, I actually did read the last 50 pages for some reason and they were meh. just go with what you feel.

[the worst]

one thing that is annoying to me is that like, there seems to be a okay reason to townlean like everyone in this game who is actively posting

I genuinely do not have any scumleans

Hmm I feel very differently, what are your most controversial townpings?

[unwnd]

Oka is a like a lightning rod for thread activity/engagement

That was the intent with the circle lol

That's not the way I've been playing the game, or viewing it

Hence this is not reflected in the post lol

[Dunnstral]

Oka is a like a lightning rod for thread activity/engagement

That was the intent with the circle lol

That's not the way I've been playing the game, or viewing it

Hence this is not reflected in the post lol

OK

You think the top posters are doing that? Because I did not notice this

[innocentvillager]

current favorite wagon

Xtoxm

My would-wagons today are

Agar Cepheus winter dannflor titus (?)

Wouldn’t oppose but probably wouldn’t join are

Ythan DGB dunnstral mastina

Would oppose

A50, the worst, Hopkins, Hercules, okapoka, unwnd, YBR

is very roughly where I’m at

[unwnd]

It's not that the top posters are actively just agreeing with Oka and that's it, it's that Oka's thought tangents form a circle of discussion almost always

It's happened two or three times

[the worst]

why would you oppose A50 and ABR over others?
jsyk Dann has gotten a lot louder over the last pages - he's probably the only player who's gotten like remarkably more sortable other than mastina imo

why don't you love dunnstral or dgb the way I do?

[the worst]

It's not that the top posters are actively just agreeing with Oka and that's it, it's that Oka's thought tangents form a circle of discussion almost always

It's happened two or three times

it's a playstyle quirk which happens when you post first thing later (oka town playstyle which I've like, historically been v v similar to) -- conversations flow around you and without you necessarily steering them your dialogue starts adapting to the trajectory of the conversation, if that makes sense

so okapoka being ever-present makes it feel like he's centre to every conversation but not necessarily leading the game, he's just like, a spiritual narrator or something

[Almost50]

current favorite wagon

Xtoxm

My would-wagons today are

Agar Cepheus winter dannflor titus (?)

Wouldn’t oppose but probably wouldn’t join are

Ythan DGB dunnstral mastina

Would oppose

A50, the worst, Hopkins, Hercules, okapoka, unwnd, YBR

is very roughly where I’m at

VOTE: Cephrir

ABR is on it. You are OK with it. mastina & Titus has them in their SRs. Even tw had Ceph as a null read. I think this is doable 9and very much acceptable by me)

[the worst]

I explicitly don't nullread Ceph

[Dannflor]

ABR is on it. You are OK with it. mastina & Titus has them in their SRs.

feels like a list of reasons not to vote something im sorry

[Dannflor]

current favorite wagon

Xtoxm

My would-wagons today are

Agar Cepheus winter dannflor titus (?)

Wouldn’t oppose but probably wouldn’t join are

Ythan DGB dunnstral mastina

Would oppose

A50, the worst, Hopkins, Hercules, okapoka, unwnd, YBR

is very roughly where I’m at

we're currently kinda split between ABR/xtoxm/agar

my current preference is agar > xtoxm > abr

it pains me to say but I think abr is just likelier to flip town than the other two

[innocentvillager]

hmm maybe put A50 back in the above section? Him being off in his own universe and openly begging for townreads from teams seemed +town but maybe I’m overestimating that one

YBR is just kind of a tonal read, I feel like he is a very polarized player

I’ve never seen Dunnstral this engaged with all this reasoning so it makes me think +town but I’ve never really played with scum Dunn in a big game like this, maybe he’s just good at scum

I need to relook dann I guess, looks like the consensus is TRing him again

[innocentvillager]

no idea how DGB plays as scum, and nothing seemed massively out of scumrange I saw from her, why are you strong town on dgb?

[the worst]

I'm not really sure how to bait this so I'm going to ask: did you see my post about how I feel about this game collectively?

[Dannflor]

no I'm starting to see A50 town

I'm just wary because I think he has a reputation already for being a bit off the wall so I can't just town read him for approaching the game in an unusual way

[innocentvillager]

I'm not really sure how to bait this so I'm going to ask: did you see my post about how I feel about this game collectively?

if you’re asking me I don’t know which quote you’re referring to

[unwnd]

His off-kilter reads don't seem to a fit a narrative that he is progressing them in a vacuum, rather that he thinks everyone is listening to him

[unwnd]

^ This was at a50

[the worst]

no idea how DGB plays as scum, and nothing seemed massively out of scumrange I saw from her, why are you strong town on dgb?

it's kind of hard to put a label on. I think its reads feel sincere. I don't think it feels aligned with anyone (I guess in a vacuum I can kinda see why people might think it's aligned with me). Generally I've just found myself agreeing with a lot of the stuff it's posting in realtime but I don't feel like its reads are updated to reflect a like, safe/under-the-radar mindset which I'd expect it to be going for as scum given it really isn't being pushed. sorry this isn't super helpful. I keep posting stuff to my team like "hey I think dgb is town for this" and there's a lot of nodding and there's been a few times when they've chimed in with things they've liked from it as well and I haven't really seen anything I haven't liked but there's also been enough friction from it that I haven't felt like it's playing safe?

[the worst]

gonna be level with you i don't think scum look scummy this game. i just doubt they look towny.

id love to hear more about this hypothesis. and why is "this game" different from a normal game?

quality of the playerlist and the fact I don't feel particularly good about any scumreads.

obviously scum players always play to be townread, and a lot of the game can be won by checking whether things people are doing are conventionally towny (they think they'll be townread for it) or actually legitimately towny (more sincere / the person may not realise what they're doing is towny sometimes).

nobody is like..failing that objective. I think everyone here feels entitled to be townread to some extent?

@iv this one