TM 2021 Large Normal: OEIS Mafia (Part Two Is Out)

[the worst]

I kinda forgot I made it in response to you lol

[innocentvillager]

oh I did see that yeah it kinda makes sense

I didn’t get what nobody is failing that objective meant

My phone is dying and my charger is too far and I’m sleeping soon

how do you feel about xtoxm openly not caring then, are they just a special case

[the worst]

He really is. I would not be surprised if he's scum at all but he's a huge "meh" flip D1.

[AGar]

2525 is scum just faking astonishment that any of the three wagons didn't go through and faking misery, followed by a pivot to a "wagon" with no traction in 2526 despite lamenting that we had "lost traction." Traction would probably be gained from actually maybe putting a genuine effort in to put forward authentic reads and some reasoning, but scum don't have to do that in this game because we've had 3 largely pointless wagons. And then we bounce off again in 2528. Noting that I'm just going to laugh at everyone when Titus flips scum because I've been saying it and shouting into the void.

2531 is big if true. (as of 1323 it's true).

Shea and I have been discussing that ABR is almost certainly town. Shea's point is specifically that ABR's frustrated response to the formation and dissipation of wagons has a significantly high chance of being town and between he and I we agree there's no scum benefit to ABR objecting in the manner he did.

2551 could replace Hopkirk with like... 85% of this playerlist.

If you find the interpretation being proffered by mastina valid, why did you not voice this until it was said by mastina?

It is not my job to explain Titus' behaviour/statements. She is well capable of doing that herself.

I only explained what mastina was saying to Oka because he asked for help.

So my thing is that the entire xtoxm wagon sprung up based on the interpretation that Oka had that mastina was arguing against. So you just decided to keep your mouth shut about it? Or did you not read it that way?

2560 is a weird post when you're staring down the barrel of a flash wagon unless you're informed that that flash wagon isn't actually going to push through. Suuuure makes you think.

There is a time where I would have audibly laughed at 2596 for all of it's glorious irony. Today though, I just nodded.

2604 is a pretty bad post. Whew doggie.

who's still vanity wagon or voting lurkers? they need to shift to their votes to high scum equity players

Buzzword density exceeded. "High scum equity players" fucking lol, what is that even supposed to mean, the reads you made up?

Ah good, mastina is back and we're getting pointless bullshit to clutter up the thread for no good reason and reads still absent context for the next however long. Love when scum do this and no one who is presently in the thread calls it out so they get away with this horseshit.

2636 is tech talking "fake reads"

AGar is getting away with hardcore lurking and y'all should be ashamed for it given his pop-ins are blatantly scum.

"hardcore lurking" fuck off. Sorry I won't fucking nolife this game.

plus we end day early and we give mastina 2 days of interrupted catching up

I'll tell you right now that ain't gonna happen.

imagine a world where we quick elimmed agar

Would've saved my blood pressure and not wasted a fuckton of my time with the idea that anyone is gonna read my fucking posts, so I wish you had.

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Sidebar: Suuuuuper fucking cool to see a skittle who can't keep site policy straight and keeps using a word that mods were asked to remove from their vocabulary. Suuuuuper fucking cool.

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can we get a vibe check

Dann, Imma let you in on a secret: Any time you ask this, you are assuredly going to get 3 positive answers to shift and then you're gonna have a wagon. Just fucking vote if you feel it.

agar? a little yeah, he has that "not angry just disappointed" energy which makes me not want to cross him

If this is the energy you're honestly getting, then you are way off on reading me because this game has me incensed and at rage levels I haven't felt since 2016.

can we get a vibe check

Consider this to be that:
VOTE: AGar.

since you suspect that slot you may enjoy 510 and 561

Today's posts are a vast improvement <3

There's no change tho--I'm still presenting the exact same reads I was yesterday including defending the same people and scumreading the same people. I've had one read change overnight (Winter Flakes), and that's it. It's the same reads and the same presentation and the exact same lack of 60 posts' worth of info.

The mastina bus to Day 2 is now boarding. Last call for passengers.

i have convinced myself flipping agar isnt too bad because if he's scum then at least mastina should be locktown and not needing to sort mastina can simplify so much

You are going to be so disappointed.

I'm not though (low activity)

Didn't you get the memo - if you aren't a hyperposter who's here seven times a day, you're low activity.

Once more for posterity:

We should be yeeting within {Titus/DGB/mastina/the_worst} today, but we won't because the town wants to make it's life harder.

I have mixed emotions on xtoxm who could very well be scum but wagon interactions don't make me feel comfortable unless there are at least 2 other scum on the wagon. Wagon analysis after a few flips will tell whether this holds.

My secret gut paranoid read is that Dann is scum but that is entirely and purely a gut read with no basis to back it up. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We absolutely should not be yeeting {IV/Dunn/ABR/Hopkirk}. I throw Oka into that, but we have disputes within our team and varying levels of confidence as to who the worst player on our team is when it comes to that one, currently an ouroboros of passing the buck to someone else "being better." I'll say it with my chest that Oka is town. Fuck it. Bold of me, I know.

I've come around on Ceph, unwnd, and Winter Flakes but someone's probably snowing me in that trio. WF > Unwnd > Ceph in confidence levels.

I've gone back and forth on {Hercule/A50}. I currently don't feel either of them is all that bad, but have had moments I didn't like so they can be "null" for all I care.

I have never been able to read Ythan's brain and I'm not going to pretend I'm gonna start for the first time in 12 years just to get yeeted in the next 24 hours.

[AGar]

Fuck it, it's a wall and I don't care right now.

[Cephrir]

Ah, it happened again. Maybe I should start believing in it.

[Cephrir]

UNVOTE:

I feel kind of embarrassed about my waffling at this point. I should find a vote I can't be talked out of in one post. Maybe I need to stop looking inside the box.

[Cephrir]

What are you so mad about, agar? Just not being listened to about titus?

[Dannflor]

can you elaborate on the worst scum read?

it's a fairly popular read but I'm not really getting any concrete reasons why from anyone beyond the fact that people don't think he's reached a certain level of towniness or something

[Cephrir]

I might do some isos tomorrow if I have time.

[Dannflor]

that was @agar if it wasn't clear

[Cephrir]

I've come around on Ceph, unwnd, and

Winter Flakes

but someone's probably

snowing

me

[Dannflor]

VOTE: xtoxm

[Dannflor]

This happened last team mafia in white flag

We swung the end of day wagon in like 8 different directions before we finally just said fuck it and eliminated the lurking slot which refused to play the game

It flipped scum

[OkaPoka]

to be fair nsg

[unwnd]

I vibe with dann

VOTE: xtoxm

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: xtoxm

alright still am 'open' to a mastina SCUMCASE on agar to change my mind, no towncase on xtoxm will do that

[mastina]

cant believe we are going to let mastina get away with doing no work

It happens surprisingly often yaknow. I just speak my mind, say what my suspicions are, find the people who empathize with me, and talk to them, convincing them to follow me.

Dunnstral is fairly low activity, but I still think this is Dunn as town.

I'm not though (low activity)

You're low activity in the parts of the game that I've read: your early presence in the first 14 pages wasn't fairly high and your presence since I've replaced in has been relatively low, thus the statement, because I legit thought based off of your very early and current posting that you had like 60 posts; having double that, yeah you're town here.

[mastina]

OkaPoka
Titus
Dannflor
Hopkirk
the worst

Dunnstral
Albert B. Rampage
Xtoxm

Uncrowned
DrippingGoofball
Ythan
unwnd
Almost50
innocentvillager



AGar

Cephrir
hercule

Slight update here; yes I will be getting into the mess of townreads-that-must-contain-scum either tonight or tomorrow, simultaneous to my read. (May or may not do it tonight. Not at this moment, but I do feel like doing it so there's a high chance it gets done.)

[the worst]

Shea and I have been discussing that ABR is almost certainly town. Shea's point is specifically that ABR's frustrated response to the formation and dissipation of wagons has a significantly high chance of being town and between he and I we agree there's no scum benefit to ABR objecting in the manner he did.

*opens mouth*

*closes mouth*

[the worst]

Buzzword density exceeded. "High scum equity players" fucking lol, what is that even supposed to mean, the reads you made up?

ok boomer

[Hopkirk]

VOTE: agar

I'd do xtoxm too for what dann said. Saying you aren't following the game/your team don't care is a scumtell from what we was last year.

[the worst]

This happened last team mafia in white flag

We swung the end of day wagon in like 8 different directions before we finally just said fuck it and eliminated the lurking slot which refused to play the game

It flipped scum

I was thinking about that game earlier
for the love of God flip the fish

I literally don't care between agar/xtoxm and the throwaway future VCA comment agar made just now kinda feels more s/s than ABR with either of them so

[the worst]

hoppy why agar over xtoxm there?

[Hopkirk]

Lack of resistance to xtoxm from people I'm sus of even when I start wagons on other places (ABR/Uncrowned) that pick up votes + the stuff Mastina said about them. Makes me less confident on a xtoxm scumflip, but I'm not against a (mostly) policy lethal on xtoxm. They're not in my townpile.

Agar feels tonally off. I'll aim to reread him today.