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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:50 pm

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i'm scum despite the fact that mom pushed me super hard D1 and I've been on Bugs since D1?

like, hello???
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 1921, Frogsterking wrote: OutWorldER's main strategy in his only scum game was lurking out the game, and everything he's said and done in this game was well within his scum range. WELL within his scum range..
like, I don't recall bussing my partner since D1 in my only scum game???
In post 1921, Frogsterking wrote: If OutWorldER is a miselim and doesn't like that then he can try posting more than the moderators IMO.
why are you such a prick?
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:53 pm

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In post 1925, OutWorldER wrote:i'm scum despite the fact that mom pushed me super hard D1 and I've been on Bugs since D1?

like, hello???
This is exactly how I expected you to respond now that I cheated and read your scum meta.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:54 pm

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then fucking counter the point.

in what world does scum!me push my partner super hard since D1?
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:06 pm

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In post 1925, OutWorldER wrote:i'm scum despite the fact that mom pushed me super hard D1 and I've been on Bugs since D1?

like, hello???
In post 1926, OutWorldER wrote:
In post 1921, Frogsterking wrote: OutWorldER's main strategy in his only scum game was lurking out the game, and everything he's said and done in this game was well within his scum range. WELL within his scum range..
like, I don't recall bussing my partner since D1 in my only scum game???
In post 1921, Frogsterking wrote: If OutWorldER is a miselim and doesn't like that then he can try posting more than the moderators IMO.
why are you such a prick?
I like how you're invisible for 95% of the game with 0 contribution, and less than 5 minutes after I FoS you, you pop in with four rhetorical questions, two with triple question marks no less.

You did the same thing D1 once Amelie mentioned you:
In post 722, Amélie wrote:
In post 721, Frogsterking wrote:I'm interested in what you make of the pig and outworldER slots, Amelie. I know there is not as much to go on; but can you extract any information on their alignment?
AGamblingPig seems to really like narrating events is what I gather from that.
OutWorldER confuses me.

The answer to your question is no I really don't have any idea how to read these two players.
In post 723, OutWorldER wrote:What do you find confusing about me?
In post 724, Amélie wrote:Strange timing but I'll reply in a bit. On the phone right now.
You're clearly keeping an eye out in the thread and are hyper-conscious of being mentioned. What is it that you've been thinking that you're unwilling to share without being mentioned?
In post 1928, OutWorldER wrote:then fucking counter the point.

in what world does scum!me push my partner super hard since D1?
There is no point to counter, just a typical response of an overly emotionally-reactive lurker. Ah, so this is what you expected to carry you through 3-way? Sorry, even Lunar has town told mo
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:22 pm

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OutWorldER are you really expecting:

1) the moderate distancing from your team to carry you through the three way all alone?

2) your chosen line of questioning to discourage me from my FoS on you?

Look at what I did to the Lunar slot this game. Lunar has posted three times as much as you and town told more than you. What makes you think you're any more entitled to be town read than them?

Ejji has posted far more and town told more as well in less than half the time.

I just spent hours reading two of your town games and your only completed scum game, and I know how you won that game, I saw that you lurked it out while the village mishammered each other. Do you really expect the same thing to happen here?

I think that you're still here and you're hiding because you're getting scared now, which you should be.
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:24 pm

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"0 contribution" "There is no point to counter" what a fucking joke. instead of addressing any of the reasons I could not possibly be scum here you instead throw a vague dismissal of everything and push me with garbage meta that doesn't remotely match this game?

you read Among Us mafia so you should be aware that I'm also a person very conscientious of the game-state and that my first scum game was with FL who also taught me to be conscientious of the game-state? so explain why the fuck I'd be taking every action possible in this game that puts my hypothetical team in horrible situations? the answer is that i'm town.

Your ignoring sensible associative reasons to essentially push a policy elim against me.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:30 pm

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also lol at "moderate distancing" I literally called Bugs the fuck out on D1? And constantly pushed for their elim on D2? Your downplaying my actions to improve your narrative.

The fact is, I should not be in this PoE. It literally just comes down to Eiji or Lunar and I've made clear I think Eiji is the more likely scum.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:31 pm

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*D2 and D3
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:31 pm

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@All
Please hammer this one this guy is scum and he knows I know. This is not OutWorldER's town game.

@Jo
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You guys aren't voting anyone and he is e-2, I'm prob dying tonight, if I'm wrong you get another chance tomorrow with more info.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:33 pm

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alright yeah just keep ignoring/dismissing me and continue to engage in bad faith

fun and not-aggravating in the slightest.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:36 pm

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In post 1931, OutWorldER wrote:"0 contribution" "There is no point to counter" what a fucking joke. instead of addressing any of the reasons I could not possibly be scum here you instead throw a vague dismissal of everything and push me with garbage meta that doesn't remotely match this game?

you read Among Us mafia so you should be aware that I'm also a person very conscientious of the game-state and that my first scum game was with FL who also taught me to be conscientious of the game-state? so explain why the fuck I'd be taking every action possible in this game that puts my hypothetical team in horrible situations? the answer is that i'm town.

Your ignoring sensible associative reasons to essentially push a policy elim against me.
In post 1932, OutWorldER wrote:also lol at "moderate distancing" I literally called Bugs the fuck out on D1? And constantly pushed for their elim on D2? Your downplaying my actions to improve your narrative.

The fact is, I should not be in this PoE. It literally just comes down to Eiji or Lunar and I've made clear I think Eiji is the more likely scum.
In post 1933, OutWorldER wrote:*D2 and D3
Mhm here come the big posts with the instantaneous reaction time now that the game is over for you.

You're describing this case like you've been rehearsing it in your mind, probably what you were doing while reading through the TvT conflicts instead of posting.

You've been following the game state so you know how well attacking my reasoning worked out for Lunar, what makes you think it will work for you?
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:37 pm

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In post 1935, OutWorldER wrote:alright yeah just keep ignoring/dismissing me and continue to engage in bad faith

fun and not-aggravating in the slightest.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:38 pm

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I can get behind Frogster's reasoning here. There's not much separating Lunar/Outworld, but Lunar probably has more towntelly posts and was pushed for elim by both Bugs and Momrangal D1. There's no point eliminating ejj due to their claim, as that will self-resolve anyway.

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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:39 pm

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In post 1935, OutWorldER wrote:alright yeah just keep ignoring/dismissing me and continue to engage in bad faith

fun and not-aggravating in the slightest.
I scum read this post based on tone, sarcasm and frustration are easy to fake, and Lunar sounds a lot more genuine than you.
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:42 pm

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In post 1932, OutWorldER wrote:also lol at "moderate distancing" I literally called Bugs the fuck out on D1? And constantly pushed for their elim on D2? Your downplaying my actions to improve your narrative.

The fact is, I should not be in this PoE. It literally just comes down to Eiji or Lunar and I've made clear I think Eiji is the more likely scum.
Why the panic then? Town still gets enough miselims for them both.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:46 pm

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because I know my PM is green

and I think it's the duty of a town player to defend confirmed greens even in situations like this where there is (most likely) not a lot of negative for miselim at this point.

because why waste a lim when we can get scum now?
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:47 pm

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In post 1941, OutWorldER wrote:because I know my PM is green

and I think it's the duty of a town player to defend confirmed greens even in situations like this where there is (most likely) not a lot of negative for miselim at this point.

because why waste a lim when we can get scum now?
What is your plan once both Ejji and Lunar flip town?
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:49 pm

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Actually this scenario does remind me a bit of Lunar's scum game where they bussed their partner despite the fact that doing so would inevitably lead to their loss.
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:51 pm

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In post 1942, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1941, OutWorldER wrote:because I know my PM is green

and I think it's the duty of a town player to defend confirmed greens even in situations like this where there is (most likely) not a lot of negative for miselim at this point.

because why waste a lim when we can get scum now?
What is your plan once both Ejji and Lunar flip town?
Forcing Jo to choose between you and Luca in the three way, where you both had "bussed" Bugs and Mom, but more tin foil had built up over Luca?

Hmm that sounds fair enough actually. Sorry I screwed your plan over..
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:56 pm

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Outworld elim
ejj dies

Lunar elim
Frogster dies

Gamma, Luca, Joq

If I were scum then I'd be eliminated because the other two are conftown. Town can't lose here anyway.

Outworld elim
Frogster dies

ejj non guilty on Lunar
ejj elim
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Luca, Joq, Lunar. Again two conftown, so as scum I couldn't win.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:02 pm

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It doesn't really matter who we elim here out of Outworld/Lunar.

I'd say Outworld is slightly the better bet to hit scum, but Town will win regardless.
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:04 pm

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In post 1943, Luca Blight wrote:Actually this scenario does remind me a bit of Lunar's scum game where they bussed their partner despite the fact that doing so would inevitably lead to their loss.
That's my current theory on the game state. I think OutWorldER's plan was fine before they knew about the rolestopper, because he can lurk to a three way with you and Jo, Jo gets the hammer and TRs you both, but your name has been on the wagon already by two confirmed townies, and there is more tinfoil built up about you bussing Bugs than OutWorldER. All he had to do to reach that point was lurk it out today and tomorrow.

Because the last PR is a rolestopper OutWorldER must be able to push the Ejji lunch through today which makes his life more complicated (and probably why he's still voting Ejji despite being hyper-aware of the game state.)

I think if this is all accurate then rolestopper might have been a bit too much for town, role blocker probably would have been more fair.
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:07 pm

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Ejj claimed roleblocker.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:10 pm

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But I'm not sure what the difference between a roleblocker and rolestopper is.
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