Open 804: Popcorn Mafia Redux [Game Over!]

[Netflix and Chill]

Assuming no secret alts?

You Cakez dunn Norfolk. The former three have seen me in pretty dead on games. Norfolk lost to town me (we were competing day one wagons and he died)

[Netflix and Chill]

I mean there’s also the Hydra thing which I suppose you could argue makes us more likely to draw it but meh

[Netflix and Chill]

Oh and miltank

[Imperium]

Hmm remove Norfolk and add ABR and that’s my experience too.

[Dunnstral]

Assuming no secret alts?

You Cakez dunn Norfolk. The former three have seen me in pretty dead on games. Norfolk lost to town me (we were competing day one wagons and he died)

Is this your list of who you think picks you or something else?

[Netflix and Chill]

Who I have experience with.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

It might be instructive to see the other half of both hydras add their lists (unless they both combined their lists already), and make this page a nice easy one-stop-shop for scumhunting after a red flip or two narrows things down.

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I should clarify -- not that there's any guarantee of the lists pointing at scum, but it could be useful to rule out certain possibilities and/or hint at others.

[Imperium]

Decent chance at least one person in that list is scum just due to the large number of scum this game.

Dunno though.

[ScrewTheTells]

Hi all.

FOS Norfolk. Their 2 posts so far are slightly scummy, and also going silent after people pointed this out makes it even more suspicious. Could be explained by timezones or whatever but, that's some bayesian evidence imo.

I initially thought Imperium scummy because their early posts were fluffy to the point of spam-like, which reduces readability, which I don't see why town would do. But they seemed to post more substance after the first couple pages.

MUSHSHAGANA seemed town initially because they put in a lot of apparent effort, but I really don't like the reasoning against Whemestar. My understanding is that MUSHSHA's argument is that Whemestar is playing like a bad town. It just so happens that with these game mechanics, a bad town isn't really good strategy for scum to imitate, outside of WIFOM. So I don't understand their suspicion on Wheme.

I think some people said they read Dunnstral as town? I don't get why.

I lean town on Wheme for reasons related to the interaction with MUSHSHA mentioned above.

Anyone else I haven't mentioned are either lurkers or haven't caught my attention in any direction yet. Normally lynching lurkers isn't bad at all. Not sure if shooting is good though.

Regarding mechanics: yeah I agree with MUSHSHA's point that we should not try to make this game emulate one with normal votes and lynches. If we shoot the most suspicious person it kind of has a double benefit: either we get scum or the wrong read gets confirmed as town.

[SirCakez]

Lol okay

What's funny?

[SirCakez]

I was pretty good reading Notsci in Legends

[SirCakez]

Hi all.

FOS Norfolk. Their 2 posts so far are slightly scummy, and also going silent after people pointed this out makes it even more suspicious. Could be explained by timezones or whatever but, that's some bayesian evidence imo.

I initially thought Imperium scummy because their early posts were fluffy to the point of spam-like, which reduces readability, which I don't see why town would do. But they seemed to post more substance after the first couple pages.

MUSHSHAGANA seemed town initially because they put in a lot of apparent effort, but I really don't like the reasoning against Whemestar. My understanding is that MUSHSHA's argument is that Whemestar is playing like a bad town. It just so happens that with these game mechanics, a bad town isn't really good strategy for scum to imitate, outside of WIFOM. So I don't understand their suspicion on Wheme.

I think some people said they read Dunnstral as town? I don't get why.

I lean town on Wheme for reasons related to the interaction with MUSHSHA mentioned above.

Anyone else I haven't mentioned are either lurkers or haven't caught my attention in any direction yet. Normally lynching lurkers isn't bad at all. Not sure if shooting is good though.

Regarding mechanics: yeah I agree with MUSHSHA's point that we should not try to make this game emulate one with normal votes and lynches. If we shoot the most suspicious person it kind of has a double benefit: either we get scum or the wrong read gets confirmed as town.

This post kinds of bothers me. It feels like STT felt they needed to comment on all of the "major" things that happened. When that's not really ever a necessary thing to do.

[Imperium]

Lol okay

What's funny?

That you responded that you were gonna keep it close to your chest. Not exactly sure by it made me chuckle it just did.

[Imperium]

I don’t think I’ve posted anything of substance.

[SirCakez]

I don’t think I’ve posted anything of substance.

Are you saying you can't be read from fluff?

[Imperium]

I don’t think I’ve posted anything of substance.

Are you saying you can't be read from fluff?

I actually kinda think i can somewhat.

Though tells guy said that he was scum reading me for early fluff but then I started posting things of substance. I don’t think I have though. I talked a bit about gun mechanics but that’s not really substance.

[SirCakez]

I'm looking more at tone of posts atm.

[Dunnstral]

It might be instructive to see the other half of both hydras add their lists (unless they both combined their lists already), and make this page a nice easy one-stop-shop for scumhunting after a red flip or two narrows things down.

What lists?

[Dunnstral]

Hi all.

FOS Norfolk. Their 2 posts so far are slightly scummy, and also going silent after people pointed this out makes it even more suspicious. Could be explained by timezones or whatever but, that's some bayesian evidence imo.

I initially thought Imperium scummy because their early posts were fluffy to the point of spam-like, which reduces readability, which I don't see why town would do. But they seemed to post more substance after the first couple pages.

MUSHSHAGANA seemed town initially because they put in a lot of apparent effort, but I really don't like the reasoning against Whemestar. My understanding is that MUSHSHA's argument is that Whemestar is playing like a bad town. It just so happens that with these game mechanics, a bad town isn't really good strategy for scum to imitate, outside of WIFOM. So I don't understand their suspicion on Wheme.

I think some people said they read Dunnstral as town? I don't get why.

I lean town on Wheme for reasons related to the interaction with MUSHSHA mentioned above.

Anyone else I haven't mentioned are either lurkers or haven't caught my attention in any direction yet. Normally lynching lurkers isn't bad at all. Not sure if shooting is good though.

Regarding mechanics: yeah I agree with MUSHSHA's point that we should not try to make this game emulate one with normal votes and lynches. If we shoot the most suspicious person it kind of has a double benefit: either we get scum or the wrong read gets confirmed as town.

This post kinds of bothers me. It feels like STT felt they needed to comment on all of the "major" things that happened. When that's not really ever a necessary thing to do.

I don't like the dig at me

[Dunnstral]

Also calling people "lurkers" this early is laughable

[MUSHSHAGANA]

It's not so much the commenting on each major event that bugs me there as it is the extremely rigid, strict thought processes that are described in excruciating detail. It took a while to settle on that being the issue, but it's pretty unmistakable: check how there's no simple conclusions reached, EVERYTHING has an extended, multipart thought process involved, with one exception. That exception (Dunn) is left open ended, coming to no conclusions at all.

It rings very false.

[Dunnstral]

I just noticed something interesting while looking at STT's site post history

[SirCakez]

Spill it

[Dunnstral]

It appears that STT is a hydra account