TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[RCEnigma]

My slot hasn't posted prior to my rep in so I'm assuming you mean unreadable, but treating as scum.

[RCEnigma]

The early pressure on adorable is both A.) Easily read as a gauge on pushable slots (read as elimmable) and B.) An easy way to look busy early.

DV what were you looking for when you questioned adorables vote initially? Pressuring them into thinking they NEED a solid reason to throw down an rvs vote looked very strong armish.

[DeasVail]

My slot hasn't posted prior to my rep in so I'm assuming you mean unreadable, but treating as scum.

No I think you’re scum

[RCEnigma]

I would have thought that one of the most striking things from a reads perspective would have been my push of you, yet midwaybear has no opinion on it.

This feels like panic asking a team-mate to help fake reads to look town.

Are you and midway more familiar than you/adorable are?

Also were you aware that hectic was the one that prodded for reads from their team initially?

[RCEnigma]

Oh, well damn I can't beat that logic.

[RCEnigma]

bulge townie


adorable in 56 you said the vote wasn't based on anything, but in 58 you said it was because of how augustus gave a fast town read. that's what people are getting on your case about. can you address this?

If you expanded on this later just point me to the post but at the time of this post what pinged town for you coming from bulge?

I don't disagree with the read.

[DeasVail]

The early pressure on adorable is both A.) Easily read as a gauge on pushable slots (read as elimmable) and B.) An easy way to look busy early.

DV what were you looking for when you questioned adorables vote initially? Pressuring them into thinking they NEED a solid reason to throw down an rvs vote looked very strong armish.

I have talked about this a fair bit in other posts which you probably haven’t caught up to yet. 376 is a good summary I think.

In response to your other question, it had nothing to do with familiarity. I thought that a teammate would be quite interested in making a read on the main pusher of adorable at the time

PEdit:

I’m just clarifying that it is a read and not an assumption in the absence of content.

I don’t want to be rude because replacing into this slot as scum would be awful but your posting has made me more confident in the slot being scum than I was previously and I feel the need to express that.

[RCEnigma]

I should be grouping these better but I don't think I can help it tbh.

Do we know if mafia is informed of just the roles themselves or possible modifiers as well?

[petapan]

bulge townie


adorable in 56 you said the vote wasn't based on anything, but in 58 you said it was because of how augustus gave a fast town read. that's what people are getting on your case about. can you address this?

If you expanded on this later just point me to the post but at the time of this post what pinged town for you coming from bulge?

I don't disagree with the read.

i walked that read back a significant amount of time ago; in the moment his questioning seemed all right but in hindsight didn't do much

[DeasVail]

VOTE: RCEnigma

I’m fine if people want to wait and see more, but I think I’ve seen enough to be comfortable with an elimination here

[RCEnigma]

I haven't caught up to that post yet but I'll skim it in a minute.

Is the reinforcement from me pushing on your reasoning?

I can see that sort of? Why would a partner be that interested in defending an rvs push though? It seems like a weak gotchya test.

[DeasVail]

If you are town being read as scum by someone, I think that a common thought soon after is, “am I being pushed by town or scum?”

The fact that mwb had comment on lots of things but not on me was concerning to me at the time

[Creature]

What is freedom?

[DeasVail]

What is love?

[Sirius9121]

What is the meaning of life and our existence?

[Sirius9121]

[Town]-- Aristophanes - Adorable, xRECKONERx, xofelf -- Datisi, Augustus Caesar -- The Bulge - Summer Nights, petapan - [Sirius9121] --- Creature --- RCEnigma --[Scum]

Reads update.

RCE I'm really sorry but you're looking very scum right now.

Also why is my name in [ ]

[DeasVail]

That’s my null/undecided/no idea section

[Sirius9121]

That’s my null/undecided/no idea section

so basically you have 10 town reads, 1 null read and 1 scum read?

[DeasVail]

That’s my null/undecided/no idea section

so basically you have 10 town reads, 1 null read and 1 scum read?

Creature and RCE are my scumreads. But otherwise yes

[Sirius9121]

Disclaimer: All quotes were reparaphrased, recoloured and condensed. This is not a direct quote.

81 - reaction testing Sirius -> reasonable , something I would do because they are a very reaction-y player
83 - self-meta response seemed genuine and the last point seemed unnecessary to include as scum
209-220 seems like the kind of "pinning down a weird-looking thought process to get a townread" that I would do as town. mindmelded a bit with 220 wrt Adorable.
222-228 makes a lot of sense
310 - noting this down. could be slightly +scum in a vacuum bc it's less effort to not include teammates fake takes but moreso just want to see where he goes with this in the future.
side note

aristophanes

giving obvtown vibes
457/487 - feels like beeboy frustration/scum suspicion is real
568 - genuinely trying to sort a slot like Sirius who functionally at that point was had no more content than beeboy, you could say something similar about reck
579/582/585/617/686 - the insistence on getting the townread from me feels real, although probably well within peta's scumrange to ask this

i don't TR peta strongly but overall im getting a vibe of proactive insistent questioning, critical thinking, and actual original content. the peta I played with in 2180 had a lot of natural-looking processes which made me lol!townbin them but a lot of it was very reactionary and postury, which is a stark contrast in approach to this game. granted he is obviously a good scum player so it's clear nothing he's done is individually out of his scumrange.

[RCEnigma]

Sirius9121 (0)

Augautus Caesar (0)
Aristophanes (0)

Datisi (0)
Summer Nights (0)

Creature (0)

xofelf (0)
DeasVail (0)
The Bulge (0)

Adorable (0)
petapan (0)

xRECKONERx (0)
beeboy (0)

Creature you're triggering me.

[petapan]

Disclaimer: All quotes were reparaphrased, recoloured and condensed. This is not a direct quote.

81 - reaction testing Sirius -> reasonable , something I would do because they are a very reaction-y player
83 - self-meta response seemed genuine and the last point seemed unnecessary to include as scum
209-220 seems like the kind of "pinning down a weird-looking thought process to get a townread" that I would do as town. mindmelded a bit with 220 wrt Adorable.
222-228 makes a lot of sense
310 - noting this down. could be slightly +scum in a vacuum bc it's less effort to not include teammates fake takes but moreso just want to see where he goes with this in the future.
side note

aristophanes

giving obvtown vibes
457/487 - feels like beeboy frustration/scum suspicion is real
568 - genuinely trying to sort a slot like Sirius who functionally at that point was had no more content than beeboy, you could say something similar about reck
579/582/585/617/686 - the insistence on getting the townread from me feels real, although probably well within peta's scumrange to ask this

i don't TR peta strongly but overall im getting a vibe of proactive insistent questioning, critical thinking, and actual original content. the peta I played with in 2180 had a lot of natural-looking processes which made me lol!townbin them but a lot of it was very reactionary and postury, which is a stark contrast in approach to this game. granted he is obviously a good scum player so it's clear nothing he's done is individually out of his scumrange.

okay, thank you sirius, that all makes sense

[Creature]

DGB just gave me the green light on lynching RCE

[Creature]

I kinda have stuff I still have to do but at least I feel more free to play the game

[Creature]

VOTE: RCEnigma

I’m fine if people want to wait and see more, but I think I’ve seen enough to be comfortable with an elimination here

Me too, but I don't want to end up being pressured all day tomorrow and feel unable to scumhunt due to that wagon