Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Ydrasse]

also good luck with everybody's life stuff. apologies for how general this message is, my skim was quick.

I Care You

[Flavor Leaf]

i don't think i can read Tweet properly, if that list was apparently so towny.
though i recognize it's a bad idea to base that feeling on Tweet's scumread on me including that i'm disconnected with the game right now, when she's also feeling that way and is apparently town. :/

but i don't have a strong reason to SR her. i guess i'm just upset with the state of things.

I like this post.

[Flavor Leaf]

Chara, you're doing great this game, by the way.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like if you're town, you are absolutely killing it.

And if you're scum, you're doing a fantastic job considering I essentially came into this game expecting you to be scum based on draft pick alone.

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter, here's the thing.

[Chara]

thank you both. <3 Ydrasse i care you too

skitter, i'm sorry you're sad. i really am town here. i just had a short scumgame finish, i don't know if it would help but i'll leave that there.

[Chara]

Like if you're town, you are absolutely killing it.

And if you're scum, you're doing a fantastic job considering I essentially came into this game expecting you to be scum based on draft pick alone.

yeah, i get that. i signed up wondering if i'd be a draft pick and expecting it to come up in discussion.

i don't feel like i'm killing it, i'm unhappy with where my focus has been so far. but i appreciate the sentiment, it is rather motivating.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

i don't think i can read Tweet properly, if that list was apparently so towny.
though i recognize it's a bad idea to base that feeling on Tweet's scumread on me including that i'm disconnected with the game right now, when she's also feeling that way and is apparently town. :/

but i don't have a strong reason to SR her. i guess i'm just upset with the state of things.

Well that’s pretty much the towniest thing she’s done but I had doubts in her interactions with me because she did sound really genuine.

What are you upset about specifically? You’d think it should be a lot easier after Dann flip but he left a lot of associatives with different people, so can’t really go off of that. I think you’re town because you’re playing more like your towngame and very differently here than in Alisae’s game. I think I’m right. *knock wood* Dann was the only scum I wrongly tr.

[Flavor Leaf]

You've come so far since that game we were scum in with Eddie Cane, a game I look back at very fondly, and I truly think you have turned into a fantastic scum player, unparalleled in the specific things you do.

Unfortunately, this is also a reason that I believe you are scum.

You are doing an insane job right now, and I am physically town reading you. Everything you have done is townie. Even the way you are questioning reads and having doubts on slots. Like oh my god, skitter.

I think you're playing at a high level.

However, I also have access to this floor that you are on, and frankly, I've seen this track because I too think it is a good track, I've rented it out a few times myself. I am just so familiar with the role that you've been playing this game, and the fact that I was naturally town reading you...doesn't make sense.

You and I both know I don't town read you when you're town like that. And yes, you did bring it up that it was weird that I was, but I think it's exactly what ScumSkitter would do too.

And I really just don't think Hectic picks Nancy and Co, even though I am individually lean scum reading her.

[Flavor Leaf]

Skitter, here's the thing.

You've come so far since that game we were scum in with Eddie Cane, a game I look back at very fondly, and I truly think you have turned into a fantastic scum player, unparalleled in the specific things you do.

Unfortunately, this is also a reason that I believe you are scum.

You are doing an insane job right now, and I am physically town reading you. Everything you have done is townie. Even the way you are questioning reads and having doubts on slots. Like oh my god, skitter.

I think you're playing at a high level.

However, I also have access to this floor that you are on, and frankly, I've seen this track because I too think it is a good track, I've rented it out a few times myself. I am just so familiar with the role that you've been playing this game, and the fact that I was naturally town reading you...doesn't make sense.

You and I both know I don't town read you when you're town like that. And yes, you did bring it up that it was weird that I was, but I think it's exactly what ScumSkitter would do too.

And I really just don't think Hectic picks Nancy and Co, even though I am individually lean scum reading her.

[Firebringer]

I feel heartpain for Firebringer

all that effort pocketing Skitter, sending her cute songs at night, flirting SHAMELESSLY and she just downgrades him to nullread.

It's downright heartbreaking.

This is like straight up soap opera levels of drama right now.

I did so much and she just tore my heart apart

I did, whoops ... :/

Fire is the towniest town to ever town, is obviously what i meant to say

ITS TOO LATE SKITTER! WE ARE DONE!

I got your back Firebringer!

I knew you would.

Gonna flirt with pooky instead of skitter from now on.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=30597


Scum!Chara, you were kind’ve off and disconnected. Here you’re taking strong stances and expressing conviction. It’s less in what you say but HOW you’re doing it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Was talking about Skitter in that post, I thought I was going to finish it faster than I did.

But yeah, I expected Skitter/Chara to be the best drafts for this game for multiple reasons. Player ability, hectic/flavor familiarity checks, not the base obvious level, so with the addition of town reading Starcrossed, Ydrasse, Hopkirk, and Xtoxm, I think you just are scum here. I see the path and the play you're doing it completely if you are indeed scum here. I'm about 80% which is rather high.

[Chara]

i'm upset that skitter and Tweet think i'm scum. it is silly, i know.

Tweet's read is fair, i suppose, considering i also SRed her, though i thought i explained why that was. but seeing that reason along with being disconnected when she's also feeling that way is a little... presented without irony i'm just going to frown at it.

and this game has reminded me that a lot of things the majority of players look at in mafia when determining reads are tools i don't use/don't agree with the significance of.
just, seeing several players all agree that X action is scummy, or Y action is towny, it makes me feel very misaligned with the meta as a whole when i don't agree.
i know i shouldn't be bogged down in it.

pedit: this was a response to Nancy.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like if you're town, you are absolutely killing it.

And if you're scum, you're doing a fantastic job considering I essentially came into this game expecting you to be scum based on draft pick alone.

yeah, i get that. i signed up wondering if i'd be a draft pick and expecting it to come up in discussion.

i don't feel like i'm killing it, i'm unhappy with where my focus has been so far. but i appreciate the sentiment, it is rather motivating.

I am solidly town reading you, Chara, you're doing something right.

[skitter30]

You've come so far since that game we were scum in with Eddie Cane, a game I look back at very fondly, and I truly think you have turned into a fantastic scum player, unparalleled in the specific things you do.

Unfortunately, this is also a reason that I believe you are scum.

You are doing an insane job right now, and I am physically town reading you. Everything you have done is townie. Even the way you are questioning reads and having doubts on slots. Like oh my god, skitter.

I think you're playing at a high level.

However, I also have access to this floor that you are on, and frankly, I've seen this track because I too think it is a good track, I've rented it out a few times myself. I am just so familiar with the role that you've been playing this game, and the fact that I was naturally town reading you...doesn't make sense.

You and I both know I don't town read you when you're town like that. And yes, you did bring it up that it was weird that I was, but I think it's exactly what ScumSkitter would do too.

And I really just don't think Hectic picks Nancy and Co, even though I am individually lean scum reading her.

Awwwwww i am flattered <3
I still dont get why you're townreading me lol, i gave up questioning it ages ago

[Firebringer]

I think ur town Chara!

[Flavor Leaf]

i'm upset that skitter and Tweet think i'm scum. it is silly, i know.

Tweet's read is fair, i suppose, considering i also SRed her, though i thought i explained why that was. but seeing that reason along with being disconnected when she's also feeling that way is a little... presented without irony i'm just going to frown at it.

and this game has reminded me that a lot of things the majority of players look at in mafia when determining reads are tools i don't use/don't agree with the significance of.
just, seeing several players all agree that X action is scummy, or Y action is towny, it makes me feel very misaligned with the meta as a whole when i don't agree.
i know i shouldn't be bogged down in it.

pedit: this was a response to Nancy.

don't be ashamed to be misaligned with the meta, I've never been in meta here once

[skitter30]

I feel heartpain for Firebringer

all that effort pocketing Skitter, sending her cute songs at night, flirting SHAMELESSLY and she just downgrades him to nullread.

It's downright heartbreaking.

This is like straight up soap opera levels of drama right now.

I did so much and she just tore my heart apart :(

I did, whoops ... :/

Fire is the towniest town to ever town, is obviously what i meant to say

ITS TOO LATE SKITTER! WE ARE DONE!

I got your back Firebringer!

I knew you would.

Gonna flirt with pooky instead of skitter from now on.

I am Sad that i have ruined this wondrous flirtship, can i ever win u back?

[Flavor Leaf]

Firebringer and Skitter, I think it's hilarious if you're S/S right now.

[Chara]

FL please i can't handle you scumreading skitter when i only changed my read on her because i felt stupid for scumreading her p l e a s e

[Flavor Leaf]

oh my gosh, you totally are

[Starcrossed]

I knew you would.

Gonna flirt with pooky instead of skitter from now on.

my heart & soul belongs to Kanna.

but I will always have your back.

We almost started a revolution once.

[catboi]

Sorry for being absent, my attention as focused on pokemon upick since it was at deadline.

That game also had scum Chara getting guiltied by Hectic, after the flip in that game I read back this game and realized Chara was more passuve that game than it is here which is why I decided to rethink my read of them here.

Nancy's frustration in arguing with skitter also feels legitimate and not, like, in a scummy way. I don't scumread skitter, though. The whole fight just feels like mutual OMGUS without much substance behind it.

Tbh I had been thinking xtoxm was possibly a mason with the way he was lurking >_>. I'm okay with letting the claim stand for now, though.

MT's readlist doesn't do a whole lot for me, she seemed to have been floating along today until the votes went for her, like, I don't know what she was doing sheeping everything prior to that, I feel like she's capable of more...depth than this as town

[skitter30]

i'm upset that skitter and Tweet think i'm scum. it is silly, i know.

Sorry i dont mean to upset u ... i'm just having a hard time seeing u as town rn :(