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[NorwegianboyEE]

If you have good reasons to TR luca I'd legit like to hear them because he's in my scumreads rn and has been since D1

You think Luca is scum?

[Titus]

it's not replicable if you don't give a road map tho
I've tried to use similar methods to you and feel like I ended up way off

I guess you can try your methods on the game I tried on and see what results you get, and if they match mine then I somehow lucked into your method?
is that a thing you're willing to try?

Sure.

But you'll need to give me the flips, any modconfirmed townies (i.e. cop clears) known at the time you did the flip. I usually get those things from post 1, but that would spoil the results.

That'll happen tomorrow most likely though barring a sudden miracle as my case got pushed to the back end of my calendar and I have two actual VCAs to do here.

[Titus]

Btw, being willing to learn the VCA sounds like a very town reachout.

[Titus]

So my day looks like

Court case
Docket work
VCAs
Date
More stuff if possible.

[Gamma Emerald]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=84286 this is the game thread
I did the VCA during N4, the flips up through then were georgebailey, bingle, and fun & games as town, and lavar + flavor leaf as scum, with one scum left alive. For mech clears there was me, creativemod1, and dkkoba (unique setup mechanics indicated that we were town).

[Titus]

Thank you.

[Andresvmb]

I’m not Scum and I really don’t care how much Titus wants to hug their vote count analysis. I’m unfortunately the target of this nonsense so there’s not much I’m going to say that’s going to affect how people behave, but I can answer whatever anyone wants to ask me. I’ve been quite transparent about my views and my analysis and the flip and NK don’t change how I’m looking at the game.

[DrippingGoofball]

So we're just waiting on a DGB claim then?

Where is chkflip's claim tho

[DrippingGoofball]

It's not that exciting, DGB has a 50% chance of guessing her way out if trouble if there were any. I don't think there is, but, y'know.

It's possible.

I'm being super vague on purpose btw. I hope people understand.

I mean

chkflip who pretty much has a guilty on him from quiet

Doesn't claim????

ME NO LIKE

[DrippingGoofball]

Go ahead, chkflip. DO IT

I know what you're up to, scum.

[chkflip]

You wouldn't like it if I claimed to the tee.

You can't lie to me, woman.

Speaking of fabricating role claims, well it seems almost out of character for you not to claim... doesn't it?

Vanilla or not vanilla would suffice in all honesty.

[Titus]

VOTE: chkflip

[Titus]

Spoiler: The VCs

vote (n.)

mid-15c., "formal expression of one's wish or choice with regard to a proposal, candidate, etc.," from Latin

votum

"a vow, wish, promise to a god, solemn pledge, dedication," noun use of neuter of

votus

, past participle of

vovere

"to promise, dedicate" (see

vow

(n.)). Meaning "totality of voters of a certain class or type" is from 1888.

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Binatog13 (2):

MathBlade

, Vaxkiller

[E-9]

DrippingGoofball (1): Hayker

MathBlade

(1): Binatog13

Rannygazoo

(1): DrippingGoofball

Norfolk Boy1

(1): Titus
Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb

Not_Mafia

(1): BBMolla
Andresvmb (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Not Voting (11):

Nero Cain

, Momrangal,

quiet

,

Rannygazoo

, Luca Blight,

Norfolk Boy1

, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip,

Not_Mafia

,

PlusJoyed

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an eliminaton.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

I'm heading to bed soon. I've asked

the worst

to check the thread and post vote counts if necessary when I'm away because I know large games can go very quickly if there are a few people active at the same time.

Doing something a bit different, this VC and the next one I do will have two words that share a common ancestor.

guest (n.)

Old English

gæst

,

giest

(Anglian

gest

) "an accidental guest, a chance comer, a stranger," from Proto-Germanic

*gastiz

(source also of Old Frisian

jest

, Dutch

gast

, German

Gast

, Gothic

gasts

"guest," originally "stranger"), from PIE root

*ghos-ti-

"stranger, guest, host" (source also of Latin

hostis

, in earlier use "a stranger," in classical use "an enemy"); the root sense, according to Watkins, probably is "someone with whom one has reciprocal duties of hospitality."

Spelling evolution influenced by Old Norse cognate

gestr

(the usual sound changes from the Old English word would have yielded Modern English

*yest

). Meaning "person entertained for pay" (at an inn, etc.) is from late 13c. Old English also had

cuma

"stranger, guest," literally "a comer." Phrase

be my guest

in the sense of "go right ahead" first recorded 1955.

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MathBlade

(5): Binatog13,

Nero Cain

, chkflip, BBMolla, NorwegianboyEE

[E-6]

Andresvmb (3):

Bypasser Catcher

,

Rannygazoo

, Vaxkiller
DrippingGoofball (2): Hayker, Momrangal

Rannygazoo

(1): DrippingGoofball
Binatog13 (1):

MathBlade

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb
Hayker (1): Titus

Not Voting (6):

quiet

, Luca Blight,

Norfolk Boy1

, Gamma Emerald,

Not_Mafia

,

PlusJoyed

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Currently I'm waiting on a confirmation for a replacement for

Not_Mafia

. Other than that the only player still unconfirmed is

quiet

.

host (n.1)

"person who receives guests," especially for pay, late 13c., from Old French

oste

,

hoste

"guest, host, hostess, landlord" (12c., Modern French

hôte

), from Latin

hospitem

(nominative

hospes

) "guest, stranger, sojourner, visitor (hence also 'foreigner')," also "host; one bound by ties of hospitality."

This appears to be from PIE

*ghos-pot-

, a compound meaning "guest-master" (compare Old Church Slavonic

gospodi

"lord, master," literally "lord of strangers"), from the roots

*ghos-ti-

"stranger, guest, host" and

*poti-

"powerful; lord." The etymological notion is of someone "with whom one has reciprocal duties of hospitality" [Watkins]. The biological sense of "animal or plant having a parasite" is from 1857.

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MathBlade

(6): Binatog13,

Nero Cain

, chkflip, BBMolla, DrippingGoofball,

Not_Mafia

[E-5]

DrippingGoofball (3): Hayker, Momrangal, Gamma Emerald

Rannygazoo

(2):

Norfolk Boy1

, NorwegianboyEE
Gamma Emerald (2): Andresvmb,

Rannygazoo

Binatog13 (1):

MathBlade

,

Not_Mafia

(1): Vaxkiller
Hayker (1): Titus
Andresvmb (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Not Voting (3):

quiet

, Luca Blight,

PlusJoyed

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

quiet

has failed to pick up their Role PM and is being replaced. If they show up before I can find a replacement they can keep the slot.

count (v.)

late 14c., "to enumerate, assign numerals to successively and in order; repeat the numerals in order," also "to reckon among, include," from Old French

conter

"to count, add up," also "tell a story," from Latin

computare

"to count, sum up, reckon together," from

com

"with, together" (see

com-

) +

putare

"to reckon," originally "to prune," from PIE root

*pau-

(2) "to cut, strike, stamp."

Intransitive sense "be of value or worth" is from 1857. Related:

Counted

;

counting

. Modern French differentiates

compter

"to count" and

conter

"to tell," but they are cognates. To

count on

"rely or depend upon" is from 1640s. To

count against

(transitive) "to be to the disadvantage of" is by 1888. To

count (someone) in

"consider (someone) a participant or supporter" is from 1857;

count (someone) out

in the opposite sense "leave out of consideration" is from 1854.

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DrippingGoofball (3): Momrangal, NorwegianboyEE,

MathBlade

[E-8]

MathBlade

(3): Binatog13,

Nero Cain

, chkflip

[E-8]

PlusJoyed

(3): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus

[E-8]

Not_Mafia

(2): Vaxkiller, Gamma Emerald
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Bypasser Catcher

(1):

Not_Mafia

Rannygazoo

(1):

Norfolk Boy1

Binatog13 (1): BBMolla

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb
BBMolla (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Not Voting (2):

quiet

, Hayker

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Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

This is your friendly reminder that using bold instead of vote or unvote tags makes me more likely to miss your vote.

band (n.2)

"an organized group," originally especially of armed men, late 15c., from French

bande

, which is traceable to the Proto-Germanic root of

band

(n.1), perhaps via a band of cloth worn as a mark of identification by a group of soldiers or others (compare Gothic

bandwa

"a sign"). But perhaps from Middle English

band, bond

in the sense "force that unites, bond, tie" (late 14c.). Also compare Old Norse

band

"cord that binds; act of binding," also "confederacy."

The extension to "group of musicians" is c. 1660, originally musicians attached to a regiment of the army and playing instruments which may be used while marching. To

beat the band

(1897) is to make enough noise to drown it out, hence to exceed everything.

One-man band

is by 1931 as "man who plays several musical instruments simultaneously;" figurative extension is by 1938.

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PlusJoyed

(4): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus,

quiet

[E-7]

DrippingGoofball (3): Momrangal, NorwegianboyEE,

MathBlade

Not_Mafia

(3): Vaxkiller, Gamma Emerald,

Bypasser Catcher

MathBlade

(2):

Nero Cain

, BBMolla

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Rannygazoo

(1):

Norfolk Boy1

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb

Not Voting (2): Hayker, Binatog13

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

@Hayker:

I am unsure if 541 was meant to be a vote so I haven't counted it. Please could you try to use vote and unvote tags

E.g. you get "VOTE: Name or UNVOTE: Name" with:

Code: Select all

[v]Name[/v] or [uv]Name[/uv]

wagon (n.)

"four-wheeled vehicle to carry heavy loads," late 15c., from Middle Dutch

wagen

,

waghen

, from Proto-Germanic

*wagna-

(source also of Old English

wægn

, Modern English

wain

, Old Saxon and Old High German

wagan

, Old Norse

vagn

, Old Frisian

wein

, German

Wagen

), from PIE

*wogh-no-

, suffixed form of root

*wegh-

"to go, move, transport in a vehicle" (source also of Latin

vehiculum

). It is thus related to

way

.

In Dutch and German, it is the general word for "a wheel vehicle;" its use in English is a result of contact through Flemish immigration, Dutch trade, or the Continental wars. It has largely displaced the native cognate,

wain

. Spelling preference varied randomly between

-g-

and

-gg-

from mid-18c., until American English settled on the etymological

wagon

, while

waggon

remained common in Great Britain.

Wagon-train

is attested from 1810. Phrase

on the wagon

"abstaining from alcohol" is attested by 1904, originally

on the water cart

.

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Not_Mafia

(5): Gamma Emerald,

Bypasser Catcher

, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

[E-6]

PlusJoyed

(3): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus
DrippingGoofball (2): Momrangal,

MathBlade

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Rannygazoo

(1):

Norfolk Boy1

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb

Not Voting (2): Hayker, Binatog13

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Hayker may be voting BBMolla, waiting on confirmation that is what they meant.

bandwagon (n.)

also

band-wagon

, 1849, American English, from

band

(n.2) +

wagon

, originally a large wagon used to carry the band in a circus procession; as these also figured in celebrations of successful political campaigns, being

on the bandwagon

came to represent "attaching oneself to anything that looks likely to succeed," a usage first attested 1899 in writings of Theodore Roosevelt.

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Not_Mafia

(5): Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

[E-6]

PlusJoyed

(4): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus, Andresvmb
DrippingGoofball (2): Momrangal,

MathBlade

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

NorwegianBoyEE (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Not Voting (2): Hayker*, Binatog13

*

Hayker may be voting BBMolla, waiting on confirmation that is what they meant.

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Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Not_Mafia

has been prodded.

re-

word-forming element meaning "back to the original place; again, anew, once more," also with a sense of "undoing," c. 1200, from Old French and directly from Latin

re-

"again, back, anew, against," "Latin combining form conceivably from Indo-European

*wret-

, metathetical variant of

*wert-

"to turn" [Watkins]. Often merely intensive, and in many of the older borrowings from French and Latin the precise sense of

re-

is lost in secondary senses or weakened beyond recognition. OED writes that it is "impossible to attempt a complete record of all the forms resulting from its use," and adds that "The number of these is practically infinite ...." The Latin prefix became

red-

before vowels and

h-

, as in

redact

,

redeem

,

redolent

,

redundant

.

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Not_Mafia

(6): Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

Rannygazoo

[E-5]

PlusJoyed

(5): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus, Andresvmb,

Bypasser Catcher

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

DrippingGoofball (1):

MathBlade

NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (3): Hayker*, Binatog13, chkflip

*

Hayker may be voting BBMolla, waiting on confirmation that is what they meant.

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place (n.)

c. 1200, "space, dimensional extent, room, area," from Old French

place

"place, spot" (12c.) and directly from Medieval Latin

placea

"place, spot," from Latin

platea

"courtyard, open space; broad way, avenue," from Greek

plateia (hodos)

"broad (way)," fem. of

platys

"broad," from PIE root

*plat-

"to spread."

Replaced Old English

stow

and

stede

. From mid-13c. as "particular part of space, extent, definite location, spot, site;" from early 14c. as "position or place occupied by custom, etc.; precedence, priority in rank or dignity; social status, position on some social scale;" from late 14c. as "inhabited place, town, country," also "place on the surface of something, portion of something, part." Meaning "a situation, appointment, or employment" is by 1550s. Meaning "group of houses in a town" is from 1580s.

Also from the same Latin source are Italian

piazza

, Catalan

plassa

, Spanish

plaza

, Middle Dutch

plaetse

, Dutch

plaats

, German

Platz

, Danish

plads

, Norwegian

plass

. The word appears via the Bible in Old English (Old Northumbrian

plaece, plaetse

"an open place in a city"), but the modern word is a reborrowing.

Sense of "a mansion with its adjoining grounds" is from mid-14c.; that of "building or part of a building set apart for some purpose is by late 15c. (in

place of worship

). Meaning "a broad way, square, or open space in a city or town," often having some particular use or character (

Park Place, Waverly Place,Rillington Place

) is by 1690s, from a sense in French. Its wide application in English covers meanings that in French require three words:

place, lieu

, and

endroit

. Cognate Italian

piazza

and Spanish

plaza

retain more of the etymological sense.

To

take place

"happen, come to pass, be accomplished" (mid-15c., earlier

have place

, late 14c.), translates French

avoir lieu

. To

know (one's) place

"know how to behave in a manner befitting one's rank, situation, etc." is from c. 1600, from the "social status" sense; hence the figurative expression

put (someone) in his or her place

(1855). In i

n the first place

, etc., it has the sense of "point or degree in order of proceeding" (1630s).

Out of place

"not properly adjusted or placed in relation to other things" is by 1520s.

All over the place

"in disorder" is attested from 1923.

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Not_Mafia

(8): Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

Rannygazoo

, chkflip, DrippingGoofball

[E-3]

PlusJoyed

(4): Luca Blight, Titus, Andresvmb,

Bypasser Catcher

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

DrippingGoofball (1):

MathBlade

NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (2): Hayker*, Binatog13

*

Hayker may be voting BBMolla, waiting on confirmation that is what they meant.

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

@

Not_Mafia

Was 'Gastric Bypass' intended to be a serious vote on someone or not?

-ment

common suffix of Latin origin forming nouns, originally from French and representing Latin

-mentum

, which was added to verb stems to make nouns indicating the result or product of the action of the verb or the means or instrument of the action. In Vulgar Latin and Old French it came to be used as a formative in nouns of action. French inserts an

-e-

between the verbal root and the suffix (as in

commenc-e-ment

from

commenc-er

; with verbs in

ir

,

-i-

is inserted instead (as in

sent-i-ment

from

sentir

).

Used with English verb stems from 16c. (for example

amazement

,

betterment

,

merriment

, the last of which also illustrates the habit of turning

-y

to

-i-

before this suffix).

The stems to which

-ment

is normally appended are those of verbs; freaks like

oddment

&

funniment

should not be made a precedent of; they are themselves due to misconception of

merriment

, which is not from the adjective, but from an obsolete verb

merry

to rejoice. [Fowler]

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Not_Mafia

(7): Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

Rannygazoo

, chkflip, DrippingGoofball

[E-4]

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

PlusJoyed

(2): Titus, Luca Blight
Hayker (2): Andresvmb,

quiet

Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

quiet

(1):

Bypasser Catcher

DrippingGoofball (1):

MathBlade

NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (2): Binatog13, Hayker

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Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

replacement (n.)

"act or fact of being replaced," 1790, from

replace

(v.) +

-ment

. Meaning "something that replaces another" is attested from 1894.

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, Gamma Emerald, NorwegianboyEE,

Rannygazoo

[E-7]

Not_Mafia

(3):

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

, DrippingGoofball

MathBlade

(2): BBMolla, Vaxkiller

Rannygazoo

(2): chkflip, Andresvmb

PlusJoyed

(2): Titus, Luca Blight
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

DrippingGoofball (1):

MathBlade

quiet

(1):

Bypasser Catcher

NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (2): Binatog13, Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

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twenty (adj., n.)

"1 more than nineteen, twice ten; the number which is one more than nineteen; a symbol representing this number;" Old English

twentig

"group of twenty," from

twegen

"two" (from PIE root

*dwo-

"two") +

-tig

"group of ten" (see

-ty

(1)). Cognate with Old Saxon

twentig

, Old Frisian

twintich

, Dutch

twintig

, Old High German

zweinzug

, German

zwanzig

. Gothic

twai tigjus

is even more transparent: literally "two tens."

The card game

twenty-one

(1790) is from French

vingt-et-un

(1781).

Twenty-twenty hindsight

is first recorded 1962, a figurative use of the Snellen fraction for normal visual acuity, expressed in feet. The guessing game of

twenty questions

is recorded from 1786 (a late 19c. parlor variation on it was called

clumps

).

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quiet

, NorwegianboyEE,

Rannygazoo

, Andresvmb, BBMolla,

Bypasser Catcher

[E-5]

Not_Mafia

(5):

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball

PlusJoyed

(2): Titus, Luca Blight
Titus (1): PlusJOYE

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller

Bypasser Catcher

(1): Gamma Emerald

Rannygazoo

(1): chkflip
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

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compete (v.)

1610s, " to enter or be put in rivalry with," from French

compéter

"be in rivalry with" (14c.), or directly from Late Latin

competere

"strive in common, strive after something in company with or together," in classical Latin "to meet or come together; agree or coincide; to be qualified," from

com

"with, together" (see

com-

) +

petere

"to strive, seek, fall upon, rush at, attack" (from PIE root

*pet-

"to rush, to fly").

According to OED, rare 17c., revived from late 18c. in sense "to strive (alongside another) for the attainment of something" and regarded early 19c. in Britain as a Scottish or American word. Market sense is from 1840s (perhaps a back-formation from

competition

); athletics sense attested by 1857. Intransitive use is by 1974. Related:

Competed; competing

.

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Hayker (7):

quiet

, NorwegianboyEE,

Rannygazoo

, Andresvmb, BBMolla,

Bypasser Catcher

, Gamma Emerald

[E-4]

Not_Mafia

(5):

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball

PlusJoyed

(3): Titus, Luca Blight, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

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awake (v.)

"cease to sleep, come out of sleep," a merger of two Middle English verbs: 1.

awaken

, from Old English

awæcnan

(earlier

onwæcnan

; strong, past tense

awoc

, past participle

awacen

) "to awake, arise, originate," from a

"on" + wacan

"to arise, become awake;" and 2.

awakien

, from Old English

awacian

(weak, past participle

awacode

) "to awaken, revive; arise; originate, spring from," from a

"on" + wacian

"to be awake, remain awake, watch." For the first element, see

a

(1); the second element in both is common Proto-Germanic, from PIE root

*weg-

"to be strong, be lively."

Both originally were intransitive only; the transitive sense "arouse from sleep" generally being expressed by Middle English

awecchen

(from Old English

aweccan

) until later Middle English. In Modern English, the tendency has been to restrict the strong past tense and past participle (

awoke, awoken

) to the original intransitive sense and the weak inflection

(awaked

) to the transitive, but this never has been complete. For distinctions of usage, see

wake

(v.); also compare

awaken

.

Official Votecount 1.16

Not_Mafia

(5):

Nero Cain

,

Norfolk Boy1

,

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball

[E-6]

Hayker (5):

Rannygazoo

, Andresvmb, BBMolla,

Bypasser Catcher

, Titus

[E-6]

Nero Cain

(4): NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip,

quiet

PlusJoyed

(1): Luca Blight
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

MathBlade

has requested replacement.

page (n.1)

"sheet of paper, one side of a printed or written leaf of a book or pamphlet," 1580s, from French

page

, from Old French

pagene

"page, text" (12c.), from Latin

pagina

"page, leaf of paper, strip of papyrus fastened to others," related to

pagella

"small page," from

pangere

"to fasten" (from PIE root

*pag-

"to fasten").

Earlier

pagine

(c. 1200), directly from Old French or Latin. The word is usually said to be from the notion of individual sheets of paper "fastened" into a book. Ayto and Watkins offer an alternative theory: vines fastened by stakes and formed into a trellis, which led to sense of "columns of writing on a scroll." When books replaced scrolls, the word continued to be used. Related:

Paginal

.

Page-turner

"book that one can't put down" is from 1974; earlier (by 1959) an apparatus or person who turns the pages of an open book, as for a performing musician.

Official Votecount 1.17

Nero Cain

(7): NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip,

quiet

,

Bypasser Catcher

,

Nero Cain

, Luca Blight

[E-4]

Hayker (4):

Rannygazoo

, BBMolla, Titus,

Norfolk Boy1

Not_Mafia

(3):

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller
Luca Blight (1): Andresvmb
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Andresvmb (1): Momrangal

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

top (n.1)

"highest point," Old English

top

"summit, crest, tuft," from Proto-Germanic

*toppa-

(source also of Old Norse

toppr

"tuft of hair," Old Frisian

top

"tuft," Old Dutch

topp

, Dutch

top

, Old High German

zopf

"end, tip, tuft of hair," German

Zopf

"tuft of hair"); no certain connections outside Germanic except a few Romanic words probably borrowed from Germanic.

Few Indo-European languages have a word so generic, which can be used of the upper part or surface of just about anything. More typical is German, which has

Spitze

for sharp peaks (mountains),

oberfläche

for the upper surface of flat things (such as a table). Meaning "highest position" is from 1620s; meaning "best part" is from 1660s. To go

over the top

is World War I slang for "start an attack," in reference to the top of the trenches; as "beyond reasonable limits, too far" it is recorded from 1968.

Top of the world

as "position of greatest eminence" is from 1670s.

Top-of-the-line

(adj.) is by 1950.

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Nero Cain

(7): NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip,

quiet

,

Bypasser Catcher

, Luca Blight, Momrangal

[E-4]

Hayker (6):

Rannygazoo

, BBMolla, Titus,

Norfolk Boy1

, Andresvmb,

Nero Cain

Not_Mafia

(3):

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

Hayker

has been prodded

walk (v.)

"travel on foot," c. 1200, a merger of two verbs, 1. Old English

wealcan

"to toss, roll, move round" (past tense

weolc

, past participle

wealcen

), and 2.

wealcian

"to roll up, curl," from Proto-Germanic

*welk-

(source also of Old Norse

valka

"to drag about," Danish

valke

"to full" (cloth), Middle Dutch

walken

"to knead, press, full" (cloth), Old High German

walchan

"to knead," German

walken

"to full"), perhaps ultimately from PIE root

*wel-

(3) "to turn, revolve."

The shift in sense is perhaps from a colloquial use of the Old English word or via the sense of "to full cloth" (by treading on it), though this sense does not appear until after the change in meaning. In 13c. it is used of snakes and the passage of time, and in 15c. of wheeled carts. "Rarely is there so specific a word as NE

walk

, clearly distinguished from both

go

and

run

" [Buck]. Meaning "to go away" is recorded from mid-15c. Transitive meaning "to exercise a dog (or horse)" is from late 15c.; meaning "to escort (someone) in a walk" is from 1620s. Meaning "move (a heavy object) by turning and shoving it in a manner suggesting walking" is by 1890. To

walk it off

, of an injury, etc., is from 1741. Related:

Walked;

walking

.

Official Votecount 1.19

Nero Cain

(8): NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip,

quiet

,

Bypasser Catcher

, Luca Blight, Momrangal,

Norfolk Boy1

[E-3]

Hayker (5):

Rannygazoo

, BBMolla, Titus, Andresvmb,

Nero Cain

Not_Mafia

(3):

MathBlade

, Binatog13, DrippingGoofball
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

frustrate (v.)

mid-15c., from Latin

frustratus

, past participle of

frustrari

"to deceive, disappoint, make vain," from

frustra

(adv.) "in vain, in error," which is related to

fraus

"injury, harm," a word of uncertain origin (see

fraud

). Related:

Frustrated

; frustrating

.

Official Votecount 1.20

Nero Cain

(9): NorwegianboyEE, chkflip,

quiet

,

Bypasser Catcher

, Luca Blight, Momrangal,

Norfolk Boy1

, Binatog13,

Nero Cain

[E-2]

Hayker (5):

Rannygazoo

, BBMolla, Titus, Andresvmb, Gamma Emerald

Not_Mafia

(2):

MathBlade

, DrippingGoofball
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

death (n.)

Old English

deaþ

"total cessation of life, act or fact of dying, state of being dead; cause of death," in plural, "ghosts," from Proto-Germanic

*dauthuz

(source also of Old Saxon

doth

, Old Frisian

dath

, Dutch

dood

, Old High German

tod

, German

Tod

, Old Norse

dauði

, Danish

død

, Swedish

död

, Gothic

dauus

"death"), from verbal stem

*dau-

, which is perhaps from PIE root

*dheu-

(3) "to die" (see

die

(v.)). With Proto-Germanic

*-thuz

suffix indicating "act, process, condition."

I would not that death should take me asleep. I would not have him meerly seise me, and onely declare me to be dead, but win me, and overcome me. When I must shipwrack, I would do it in a sea, where mine impotencie might have some excuse; not in a sullen weedy lake, where I could not have so much as exercise for my swimming. [John Donne, letter to Sir Henry Goodere, Sept. 1608]

Of inanimate things, "cessation, end," late 14c. From late 12c. as "death personified, a skeleton as the figure of mortality." As "a plague, a great mortality," late 14c. (in reference to the first outbreak of bubonic plague; compare

Black Death

).

Death's-head

, a symbol of mortality, is from 1590s.

Death's door

"the near approach of death" is from 1540s.

As a verbal intensifier "to death, mortally" (as in

hate (something) to death

) 1610s; earlier

to dead

(early 14c.). Slang

be death on

"be very good at" is from 1839. To

be the death

of "be the cause or occasion of death" is in Shakespeare (1596). Expression

a fate worse than death

is from 1810 though the idea is ancient.

Death row

"part of a prison exclusively for those condemned to capital execution" is by 1912.

Death knell

is attested from 1814;

death penalty

"capital punishment" is from 1844;

death rate

from 1859.

Death-throes

"struggle which in some cases accompanies death" is from c. 1300.

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Nero Cain

(11): NorwegianboyEE, chkflip,

quiet

,

Bypasser Catcher

, Luca Blight, Momrangal,

Norfolk Boy1

, Binatog13,

Nero Cain

, BBMolla,

Not_Mafia

[E-0]

Hayker (5):

Rannygazoo

, Titus, Andresvmb, Gamma Emerald

Not_Mafia

(2):

MathBlade

, DrippingGoofball
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

MathBlade

(1): Vaxkiller

Not Voting (1): Hayker

With 20 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

Day 2

morning (n.)

"first part of the day" (technically from midnight to noon), late 14c., a contraction of mid-13c.

morwenynge

,

moregeninge

, from

morn

,

morewen

(see

morn

) + suffix

-ing

, on pattern of

evening

. Originally the time just before sunrise.

As an adjective from 1530s; as a greeting by 1895, short for

good morning

.

Morning after

in reference to a hangover is from 1884; in reference to a type of contraception, attested by 1967.

Morning sickness

as a symptom of pregnancy is from 1793 (Old English had

morgenwlætung

).

Morning glory

, the twining plant, is from 1814, so called because the colorful trumpet-shaped flowers open only in the early morning.

Morning star

"Venus in the east before sunrise" is from 1530s (Old English had

morgensteorra

"morn-star").

Official Votecount 2.0

Anyone (0): Nobody

Not Voting (18): Titus, Vaxkiller, DrippingGoofball, Momrangal,

quiet

,

Bypasser Catcher

,

Rannygazoo

, Luca Blight, Binatog13,

Norfolk Boy1

, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, BBMolla, chkflip,

Not_Mafia

,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker, Andresvmb

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-01-25 03:05:00).

Hayker

has (expired on 2021-01-16 03:05:00) to post before I seek a replacement.

DrippingGoofball

and

PlusJoyed

have (expired on 2021-01-16 03:05:00) to post before receiving a prod.

*looks at time*

I'm totally gonna go to sleep after this I promise...

bed (n.)

Old English

bedd

"bed, couch, resting place; garden plot," from Proto-Germanic

*badja-

"sleeping place dug in the ground" (source also of Old Frisian, Old Saxon

bed

, Middle Dutch

bedde

, Old Norse

beðr

, Old High German

betti

, German

Bett

, Gothic

badi

"bed"), sometimes said to be from PIE root

*bhedh-

"to dig, pierce" (source also of Hittite

beda-

"to pierce, prick," Greek

bothyros

"pit," Latin

fossa

"ditch," Lithuanian

bedu, besti

"to dig," Breton

bez

"grave"). But Boutkan doubts this and writes, "there is little reason to assume that the Gmc. peoples (still) lived under such primitive circumstances that they dug out their places to sleep."

Both the sleeping and gardening senses are found in Old English; the specific application to planting is found also in Middle High German and is the only sense of Danish

bed

. Meaning "bottom of a lake, sea, or watercourse" is from 1580s. Geological sense of "a thick layer, stratum" is from 1680s.

Bed and board

"in bed and at the table" (early 13c.) was a term in old law applied to conjugal duties of man and wife; it also could mean "meals and lodging, room and board" (mid-15c.).

Bed-and-breakfast

in reference to overnight accommodations is from 1838; as a noun, in reference to a place offering such, by 1967.

Official Votecount 2.1

Norfolk Boy1

(3):

Not_Mafia

, DrippingGoofball, Titus

[E-7]

Titus (2): chkflip,

Bypasser Catcher

quiet

(1): Andresvmb

Not Voting (12): Vaxkiller, Momrangal,

quiet

,

Rannygazoo

, Luca Blight, Binatog13,

Norfolk Boy1

, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, BBMolla,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-01-25 03:05:00).

hammer (n.)

Old English

hamor

"hammer," from Proto-Germanic

*hamaraz

(source also of Old Saxon

hamur

, Middle Dutch, Dutch

hamer

, Old High German

hamar

,

German Hammer

). The Old Norse cognate

hamarr

meant "stone, crag" (it's common in English place names), and suggests an original sense of the Germanic words as "tool with a stone head," which would describe the first hammers. The Germanic words thus could be from a PIE

*ka-mer-

, with reversal of initial sounds, from PIE

*akmen

"stone, sharp stone used as a tool" (source also of Old Church Slavonic

kamy

, Russian

kameni

"stone"), from root

*ak-

"be sharp, rise (out) to a point, pierce."

As a part of a firearm, 1580s; as a part of a piano, 1774; as a small bone of the ear, 1610s. Figurative use of "aggressive and destructive foe" is late 14c., from similar use of French

martel

, Latin

malleus

. To go at it

hammer and tongs

"with great violence and vigor" (1708) is an image from blacksmithing (the tongs hold the metal and the hammer beats it).

Hammer and sickle

as an emblem of Soviet communism attested from 1921, symbolizing industrial and agricultural labor.

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Norfolk Boy1

(8):

Not_Mafia

, DrippingGoofball, Titus, chkflip, Andresvmb,

Rannygazoo

, Momrangal,

quiet

[E-2]

Titus (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Luca Blight (1):

Norfolk Boy1

chkflip (1): BBMolla

Not Voting (7): Vaxkiller, Luca Blight, Binatog13, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-01-25 03:05:00).

@Mod I’m VLA until Sunday

Got it

time (n.)

Old English

tima

"limited space of time," from Proto-Germanic

*timon-

"time" (source also of Old Norse

timi

"time, proper time," Swedish

timme

"an hour"), from PIE

*di-mon-

, suffixed form of root

*da-

"to divide."

Abstract sense of "time as an indefinite continuous duration" is recorded from late 14c. Personified at least since 1509 as an aged bald man (but with a forelock) carrying a scythe and an hour-glass. In English, a single word encompasses time as "extent" and "point" (French

temps/fois

, German

zeit/mal

) as well as "hour" (as in "what time is it?" compare French

heure

, German

Uhr

). Extended senses such as "occasion," "the right time," "leisure," or

times (v.)

"multiplied by" developed in Old and Middle English, probably as a natural outgrowth of such phrases as "He commends her a hundred times to God" (Old French

La comande a Deu cent foiz

).

to have a good time

( = a time of enjoyment) was common in Eng. from c 1520 to c 1688; it was app. retained in America, whence readopted in Britain in 19th c. [OED]

Time of day

(now mainly preserved in negation, i.e. what someone won't give you if he doesn't like you) was a popular 17c. salutation (as in "Good time of day vnto your Royall Grace," "Richard III," I.iii.18), hence

to give (one) the time of day

"greet socially" (1590s); earlier was

give good day

(mid-14c.).

The times "

the current age" is from 1590s.

Behind the times

"old-fashioned" is recorded from 1831.

Times

as the name of a newspaper dates from 1788.

Time warp

first attested 1954;

time-traveling

in the science fiction sense first recorded 1895 in H.G. Wells' "The Time Machine."

Time capsule

first recorded 1938, in reference to the one "deemed capable of resisting the effects of time for five thousand years preserving an account of universal achievements embedded in the grounds of the New York World's fair."

Jones [archaeologist of A.D. 5139] potters about for a while in the region which we have come to regard as New York, finds countless ruins, but little of interest to the historian except a calcified direction sheet to something called a "Time Capsule." Jones finds the capsule but cannot open it, and decides, after considerable prying at the lid, that it is merely evidence of an archaic tribal ceremony called a "publicity gag" of which he has already found many examples. [Princeton Alumni Weekly, April 14, 1939]

To do time

"serve a prison sentence" is from 1865.

Time frame

is attested by 1964;

time-limit

is from 1880.

About time

, ironically for "long past due time," is recorded from 1920. To

be on time

is by 1854 in railroading.

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Norfolk Boy1

(10):

Not_Mafia

, DrippingGoofball, Titus, chkflip, Andresvmb,

Rannygazoo

, Momrangal,

quiet

, BBMolla, Luca Blight

[E-0]

Titus (1):

Bypasser Catcher

Luca Blight (1):

Norfolk Boy1

Not Voting (6): Vaxkiller, Binatog13, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker

With 18 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

Day 2 will end in (expired on 2021-01-25 03:05:00).

Day 3

sun (n.)

Old English

sunne

"the sun," from Proto-Germanic

*sunno

(source also of Old Norse, Old Saxon, Old High German

sunna

, Middle Dutch

sonne

, Dutch

zon

, German

Sonne

, Gothic

sunno

"the sun"), from PIE

*s(u)wen-

, alternative form of root

*sawel-

"the sun."

Old English

sunne

was feminine (as generally in Germanic), and the fem. pronoun was used in English until 16c.; since then masc. has prevailed. The empire

on which the sun never sets

(1630) originally was the Spanish, later the British. To

have one's place in the sun

(1680s) is from Pascal's "

Pensées

"; the German imperial foreign policy sense (1897) is from a speech by von Bülow.

Official Votecount 3.0

Anyone (0): Nobody

Not Voting (16): Titus, Vaxkiller, DrippingGoofball, Momrangal,

quiet

,

Rannygazoo

, Luca Blight, Binatog13, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, BBMolla, chkflip,

Not_Mafia

,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker, Andresvmb

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2021-01-27 16:20:00).

PlusJoyed

has (expired on 2021-01-18 16:20:00) to post before receiving a prod.

rise (v.)

Old English

risan

"to rise, rise from sleep, get out of bed; stand up, rise to one's feet; get up from table; rise together; be fit, be proper" (usually

arisan

; a class I strong verb; past tense

ras

, past participle

risen

), from Proto-Germanic

*us-rīsanan

"to go up" (source also of Old Norse

risa

, Old Saxon

risan

, Gothic

urreisan

"to rise," Old High German

risan

"to rise, flow," German

reisen

"to travel," originally "to rise for a journey").

It is attested from c. 1200 in the senses of "move from a lower to a higher position, move upward; increase in number or amount; rise in fortune, prosper; become prominent;" also "rise from the dead." The meaning "come into existence, originate; result (from)" is by mid-13c. From early 14c. as "rebel, revolt;" also "occur, happen, come to pass; take place." Related to

raise

(v.). Related:

Rose

;

risen

.

Official Votecount 3.1

Not_Mafia

(6): Andresvmb, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, BBMolla, chkflip, Momrangal
NorwegianboyEE (1):

Not_Mafia

Not Voting (9): Titus, Vaxkiller,

quiet

,

Rannygazoo

, Luca Blight, Binatog13, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald,

PlusJoyed

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 3 will end in (expired on 2021-01-27 16:20:00).

set (v.)

Old English

settan

(transitive) "cause to sit, put in some place, fix firmly; build, found; appoint, assign," from Proto-Germanic

*(bi)satejanan

"to cause to sit, set" (source also of Old Norse

setja

, Swedish

sätta

, Old Saxon

settian

, Old Frisian

setta

, Dutch

zetten

, German

setzen

, Gothic

satjan

), causative form of PIE

*sod-

, a variant of root

*sed-

(1) "to sit." Also see

set

(n.2).

The intransitive sense from c. 1200, "be seated." The word was used in many disparate senses by Middle English; sense of "make or cause to do, act, or be; start" and that of "mount a gemstone" attested by mid-13c. Confused with

sit

since early 14c. Of the sun, moon, etc., "to go down," recorded from c. 1300, perhaps from similar use of the cognates in Scandinavian languages. To

set (something) on

"incite to attack" (c. 1300) originally was in reference to hounds and game.

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Not_Mafia

(9): Andresvmb, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, BBMolla, chkflip, Momrangal, NorwegianboyEE,

quiet

,

Not_Mafia

[E-0]

Not Voting (7): Titus, Vaxkiller,

Rannygazoo

, Luca Blight, Binatog13, Gamma Emerald,

PlusJoyed

With 16 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

Day 4

town (n.)

Old English

tun

"enclosure, garden, field, yard; farm, manor; homestead, dwelling house, mansion;" later "group of houses, village, farm," from Proto-Germanic

*tunaz

,

*tunan

"fortified place" (source also of Old Saxon, Old Norse, Old Frisian

tun

"fence, hedge," Middle Dutch

tuun

"fence," Dutch

tuin

"garden," Old High German

zun

, German

Zaun

"fence, hedge"), an early borrowing from Celtic

*dunon

"hill, hill-fort" (source also of Old Irish dun, Welsh din "fortress, fortified place, camp," dinas "city," Gaulish-Latin

-dunum

in place names), from PIE

*dhu-no-

"enclosed, fortified place, hill-fort," from root

*dheue-

"to close, finish, come full circle" (see

down

(n.2)).

Meaning "inhabited place larger than a village" (mid-12c.) arose after the Norman conquest from the use of this word to correspond to French

ville

. The modern word is partially a generic term, applicable to cities of great size as well as places intermediate between a city and a village; such use is unusual, the only parallel is perhaps Latin

oppidium

, which occasionally was applied even to Rome or Athens (each of which was more properly an

urbs

).

First record of

town hall

is from late 15c.

Town ball

, version of baseball, is recorded from 1852.

Town car

(1907) originally was a motor car with an enclosed passenger compartment and open driver's seat.

On the town

"living the high life" is from 1712.

Go to town

"do (something) energetically" is first recorded 1933.

Man about town

"one constantly seen at public and private functions" is attested from 1734.

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Anyone (0): Nobody

Not Voting (14): Titus, Vaxkiller, DrippingGoofball, Momrangal,

quiet

, Luca Blight, Binatog13, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, BBMolla, chkflip,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker, Andresvmb

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

PlusJoyed

has (expired on 2021-01-21 01:50:00) to post before receiving a prod.

dawn (v.)

c. 1200,

dauen

, "to become day, grow light in the morning," shortened or back-formed from

dauinge

,

dauing

"period between darkness and sunrise," (c. 1200), from Old English

dagung

, from

dagian

"to become day," from Proto-Germanic

*dagaz

"day" (source also of German

tagen

"to dawn"), from PIE root

*agh-

"a day." Probably influenced by Scandinavian cognates (Danish

dagning

, Old Norse

dagan

"a dawning"). Related:

Dawned

;

dawning

.

Figurative sense "begin to develop" is from 1717. Of ideas, etc., "begin to become apparent or evident to the mind," by 1852.

Official Votecount 4.1

Luca Blight (1): Andresvmb

[E-7]

NorwegianboyEE (1): Momrangal

[E-7]

BBMolla (1): Luca Blight

[E-7]

chkflip (1):

quiet

[E-7]

PlusJoyed

(1): BBMolla

[E-7]

Not Voting (9): Titus, Vaxkiller, DrippingGoofball, Binatog13, NorwegianboyEE, Gamma Emerald, chkflip,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

VLA today

I haven't done VCA. I have been swamped with work and overgamed. I know I look bad. Just please give me a few days to properly do it. If you want to help, coloring the VCs would be great.

Got it

scissors (n.)

late 14c., sisoures, from Old French

cisoires

(plural) "shears," from Vulgar Latin

*cisoria

(plural) "cutting instrument," from

*cisus

(in compounds such as Latin

excisus

, past participle of

excidere

"to cut out"), ultimately from Latin

caedere

"to cut" (from PIE root

*kae-id-

"to strike").

The spelling was highly uncertain before 20c. The forms with

sc-

are from 16c., from influence of Medieval Latin

scissor

"tailor," in classical Latin "carver, cutter," from past participle stem of

scindere

"to split."

Usually with

pair of

(attested from c. 1400) when indication of just one is required, but a singular form without the

-s

occasionally was used (

cysowre

, mid-15c.). In Scotland,

shears

answers for all sizes, according to OED; but in England generally that word is used only for those too large to be worked by one hand. Sense in wrestling is from 1904.

Oh scissors!

was a 19c. exclamation of impatience or disgust (1843). In reference to a type of swimming kick, from 1902 (the image itself is from 1880s).

Official Votecount 4.2

BBMolla (3): Luca Blight, Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball

[E-5]

Hayker (2): Titus, BBMolla
Titus (1): NorwegianboyEE
Luca Blight (1): Andresvmb
NorwegianboyEE (1): Momrangal
Gamma Emerald (1): chkflip
chkflip (1):

quiet

Not Voting (4): Vaxkiller, Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

--- snip ---

Also, consider me

V/la: for two days

I'm sick of mafia atm

Got it

coffee (n.)

"drink made from the ground and roasted seeds of a tree originally native to Arabia and Abyssinia," c. 1600, from Dutch

koffie

, from Turkish

kahveh

, from Arabic

qahwah

"coffee," which Arab etymologists connected with a word meaning "wine," but it is perhaps rather from the

Kaffa

region of Ethiopia, a home of the plant (coffee in Kaffa is called

būno

, which itself was borrowed into Arabic as

bunn

"raw coffee").

The early forms of the word in English indicate a derivation from Arabic or Turkish:

chaoua

(1598),

cahve

,

kahui

, etc. French

café

, German

Kaffe

are via Italian

caffè

.

The first coffee-house in Mecca dates to the 1510s; the beverage was in Turkey by the 1530s. It appeared in Europe c. 1515-1519 and was introduced to England by 1650. By 1675 the country had more than 3,000 coffee houses and coffee had replaced beer as a breakfast drink, but its use there declined 18c. with the introduction of cheaper tea. In the American colonies, however, the tax on tea kept coffee popular.

Meaning "a light meal at which coffee is served" is from 1774. As a shade or color resembling coffee, 1815.

Coffee-bean

is from 1680s.

Coffee-mill

is from 1690s;

coffee-spoon

is from 1703;

coffee-pot

is from 1705;

coffee-cup

is from 1762.

Coffee-shop

is from 1838.

Coffee-cake

is from 1850 as "cake in which coffee is an ingredient."

Coffee break

attested from 1952, at first often in glossy magazine advertisements by the Pan-American Coffee Bureau.

Did you drink a cup of coffee on company time this morning? Chances are that you did—for the midmorning coffee break is rapidly becoming a standard fixture in American offices and factories. [The Kiplinger Magazine, March 1952]

Official Votecount 4.3

BBMolla (3): Luca Blight, Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball

[E-5]

Luca Blight (2): Andresvmb, BBMolla
Titus (1): NorwegianboyEE
NorwegianboyEE (1): Momrangal
chkflip (1):

quiet

PlusJoyed

(1): chkflip
Hayker (1): Titus

Not Voting (4): Vaxkiller, Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

, Hayker

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

-ine (2)

word-forming element in chemistry, often interchangeable with

-in

(2), though modern use distinguishes them; early 19c., from French

-ine

, the suffix commonly used to form words for derived substances, hence its extended use in chemistry. It was applied unsystematically at first (as in

aniline

), but now has more restricted use.

The French suffix is from Latin

-ina

, fem. form of

-inus

, suffix used to form adjectives from nouns, and thus is identical with

-ine

(1).

Official Votecount 4.4

BBMolla (4): Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, Luca Blight

[E-4]

PlusJoyed

(3): chkflip, Titus, NorwegianboyEE
Luca Blight (2): Andresvmb, BBMolla
Titus (1): Momrangal
chkflip (1):

quiet

Not Voting (3): Vaxkiller, Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

caffeine (n.)

trimethyl-derivative of xanthine, 1830, from German

Kaffein

, coined by chemist F.F. Runge (1795-1867), apparently from German

Kaffee

"coffee" (see

coffee

) + chemical suffix

-ine

(2) (German

-in

). So called because the alkaloid was found in coffee beans; its presence accounts for the stimulating effect of coffee and tea. The form of the English word may be via French

caféine

. Related:

Caffeinic

.

Official Votecount 4.5

BBMolla (5): Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE

[E-3]

PlusJoyed

(4): Titus, Momrangal, BBMolla, chkflip
Luca Blight (1): Andresvmb
chkflip (1):

quiet

Not Voting (3): Vaxkiller, Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

tea (n.)

1650s,

tay

, also in early spellings

thea

,

tey

,

tee

and at first pronounced so as to rhyme with

obey

; the modern pronunciation predominates from mid-18c. But earlier in English as

chaa

(1590s), also

cha

,

tcha

,

chia

,

cia

. The two forms of the word reflect two paths of transmission:

chaa

is from Portuguese

cha

, attested in Portuguese from 1550s, via Macao, from Mandarin (Chinese)

ch'a

(cf

chai

). The later form, which became Modern English

tea

, is via Dutch, from Malay

teh

and directly from Chinese (Amoy dialect)

t'e

, which corresponds to Mandarin ch'a.

The distribution of the different forms of the word in Europe reflects the spread of use of the beverage. The modern English form, along with French

thé

, Spanish

te

, German

Tee

, etc., derive via Dutch

thee

from the Amoy form, reflecting the role of the Dutch as the chief importers of the leaves (through the Dutch East India Company, from 1610). Meanwhile, Russian

chai

, Persian

cha

, Greek

tsai

, Arabic

shay

, and Turkish

çay

all came overland from the Mandarin form.

First known in Paris 1635, the practice of drinking tea was first introduced to England 1644. Meaning "afternoon meal at which tea is served" is from 1738. Slang meaning "marijuana" (which sometimes was brewed in hot water) is attested from 1935, felt as obsolete by late 1960s.

Tea ball

is from 1895.

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BBMolla (6): Gamma Emerald, DrippingGoofball, Hayker, Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE, BBMolla

[E-2]

PlusJoyed

(4): Titus, Momrangal, chkflip, Andresvmb
chkflip (1):

quiet

Not Voting (3): Vaxkiller, Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

chocolate (n.)

c. 1600, from Mexican Spanish

chocolate

, from Nahuatl (Aztecan)

chocola-tl

,"chocolate," and/or

cacahua-tl

"chocolate, chocolate bean." With

a-tl

"water." In the first form, the first element might be related to

xocalia

"to make something bitter or sour" [Karttunen]. Made with cold water by the Aztecs, with hot water by the Conquistadors, and the European forms of the word might have been influenced by Mayan

chocol

"hot." Brought to Spain by 1520, from there it spread to the rest of Europe. Originally a drink made by dissolving chocolate in milk or water, it was very popular 17c.

To a Coffee-house, to drink jocolatte, very good [Pepys, diary, Nov. 24, 1664].

As a paste or cake made of ground, roasted, sweetened cacao seeds, 1640s. As "a piece of chocolate candy," 1880s. As a dark reddish-brown color from 1776. The adjective is from 1723 as "made of or flavored with chocolate;" 1771 as "having the color of chocolate."

Chocolate milk

is by 1845.

Chocolate-chip

is from 1940.

Official Votecount 4.7

PlusJoyed

(6): Titus, Momrangal, chkflip, Andresvmb, BBMolla, DrippingGoofball

[E-2]

BBMolla (4): Gamma Emerald, Hayker, Luca Blight, NorwegianboyEE
chkflip (1):

quiet

Not Voting (3): Vaxkiller, Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

With 14 players alive, it takes 8 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 4 will end in (expired on 2021-01-30 01:50:00).

twilight (n.)

"light from the sky when the sun is below the horizon at morning and evening," late 14c. (

twilighting

), a compound of

twi-

+

light

(n.) Cognate with Middle Flemish

twilicht

, Dutch

tweelicht

(16c.), Middle High German

twelicht

, German

zwielicht

. Exact connotation of

twi-

in this word is unclear, but it appears to refer to "half" light, rather than the fact that twilight occurs twice a day. Compare also Sanskrit

samdhya

"twilight," literally "a holding together, junction," Middle High German

zwischerliecht

, literally "tweenlight." Originally and most commonly in English with reference to evening twilight but occasionally used of morning twilight (a sense first attested mid-15c.). Figurative extension recorded from c. 1600.

Twilight zone

is from 1901 in a literal sense, a part of the sky lit by twilight; from 1909 in extended senses in references to topics or cases where authority or behavior is unclear. In the 1909 novel "In the Twilight Zone," the reference is to mulatto heritage. "She was in the twilight zone between the races where each might claim her ...." The U.S. TV series of that name is from 1959.

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PlusJoyed

(8): Titus, Momrangal, chkflip, Andresvmb, BBMolla, DrippingGoofball, Vaxkiller, NorwegianboyEE

[E-0]

BBMolla (3): Gamma Emerald, Hayker, Luca Blight
chkflip (1):

quiet

Not Voting (2): Binatog13,

PlusJoyed

With 14 players alive, an elimination has been achieved.

[chkflip]

How very vanilla of you, Titus.

[Titus]

VCA methodology

1) Admit assumptions
a) All flips are accurate.
b) Titus is town.
c) Any mechanical clears would be outed at this point. (So if there's a hidden cop clear, it's not factored in.)

2) Grab the VCAs and color them.
a) All current known flips must be colored accurately. (No rationale such as X's reads really sucked so they were practically scum, so I'm coloring them in red.)
b) Optional but I almost never do it (exception mbos 10 but that's because I had inside mod information that made me have additional mod clears): Color in uncced PRs.

3) Establish assumptions. Scum behave with a goal in mind. Assumptions are what that goal should be.

a) Scum usually try to save their teammates.
a1) If they don't then the opposition wagon is a stronger PR
a2) If they don't and the opposition is not a stronger PR, it's a bus for towncred

b) Scum rarely lead wagons on their own

c) A fake guilty by scum is done to remove a voice they could not otherwise eliminate particularly if the slot is doomed anyway.
c1) A fake guilty means that a slot saved has some value to scum. (This means my day 1 reads should be treated like utter trash and Norfolk's should be treated with greater respect.
[Note: Day 1 notes need to be redone at this point.]

d) Wagons based off guilty claims have no VCA value as there is no threat to wagon anywhere else.

e) Repeating wagons have repeating results.
e1) This means the same names on a wagon that flipped town meet again, that wagon will likely flip town (or match what the scum want.)
e2) This means the same names on a wagon that flipped scum meet again, that wagon will be more likely to flip scum (or a townbeard that's useful to scum).

f) Be careful of the townbeard. The townbeard is someone who consistently acts proscum, even when scum wouldn't.
Example: There are 5 scumflips. A slot defended every single one. There's a decent chance that slot is the townbeard rather than scum.
Basically, the useful idiot.

[Titus]

Those are my basic assumptions, including some that are relevant to this game. I have to make assumptions to ascertain what scum's objective is at a given point at any point in the game. Without having enough data to make those assumptions, then VCA is nothing more than wagonomics. This is why I say VCA requires Day 3 with a scumflip. It's the amount of flips needed, at a bare minimum, to give VCA any predictive value. Sure, VCA can be done before that (and I have begrudingly), it just lacks any value. Sometimes, all that can be gathered is that X, Y and Z are the flips that need to happen.

Enough preamble, time to work.

[DrippingGoofball]

You wouldn't like it if I claimed to the tee.

You can't lie to me, woman.

Speaking of fabricating role claims, well it seems almost out of character for you not to claim... doesn't it?

Vanilla or not vanilla would suffice in all honesty.

Oh I would love it

You're the one with a scum result and you're the one claim stalling

SPIT IT OUT

I am already voting you so

confirm vote: chkflip

[Titus]

UNVOTE: chkflip

I don't like my vote anymore after 1.7

[chkflip]

That's... crazy detailed. Exactly why I use it (and I trust you to regardless of alignment give me a jumping point). But technically that post is IIoA. Heh.

Pedit: you're being very persnickety for someone who was counter offered.

I know whether Titus, Mom, quiet, and you are vanilla or not. In that order. My reads have followed that train if you'd like to go back and check. No crumbs, but before I knew there was whatever the fuck a Doctor Tracker is flip TOWN I'm very much in the camp that the Role Cop is scum.

I did say Mom was vanilla before she claimed it, though.

I said that at some point yesterday.

[Titus]

The first VC that could possibly be out of RVS is 1.3

[selected VC 1.3]

MathBlade (5):

Binatog13,

Nero Cain,

chkflip, BBMolla, NorwegianboyEE [E-6]
Andresvmb (3):

Bypasser Catcher, Rannygazoo,

Vaxkiller

Here, we see there's two wagons. One on conftown. The other voted by two conftown. If Andres is town, I would put high odds on Vaxkiller being scum and vice versa. However, if the backend of the wagon on MathBlade's slot is totally town, then Andres and Vax could be TvT as scum would not be creating a counterwagon to save scum Andres but rather not caring at all which got wagoned.

[VC 1.4]
MathBlade (6): Binatog13, Nero Cain, chkflip, BBMolla, DrippingGoofball, Not_Mafia [E-5]
DrippingGoofball (3): Hayker, Momrangal, Gamma Emerald
Rannygazoo (2): Norfolk Boy1, NorwegianboyEE
Gamma Emerald (2): Andresvmb, Rannygazoo
Binatog13 (1): MathBlade,
Not_Mafia (1): Vaxkiller
Hayker (1): Titus
Andresvmb (1): Bypasser Catcher

I quoted the entirety of 1.4 to show that Not_Mafia moved onto Mathblade's slot after the disintegration of the Andres wagon, which is a null point in my belief that Andres is scum. Scum didn't really need to pile on Mathblade's slot since Ranny moved on his own and with Andres.

Official Votecount 1.7

PlusJoyed

(4): Luca Blight, DrippingGoofball, Titus,

quiet

[E-7]

DrippingGoofball (3): Momrangal, NorwegianboyEE,

MathBlade

Not_Mafia

(3): Vaxkiller, Gamma Emerald,

Bypasser Catcher

MathBlade

(2):

Nero Cain

, BBMolla

Bypasser Catcher

(2):

Not_Mafia

, chkflip
Titus (1):

PlusJoyed

Rannygazoo

(1):

Norfolk Boy1

Norfolk Boy1

(1):

Rannygazoo

Gamma Emerald (1): Andresvmb

Not Voting (2): Hayker, Binatog13

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to achieve an elimination.

Day 1 will end in (expired on 2021-01-16 23:15:00).

I highly doubt Vaxkiller and Gamma are scum here. It's far too early for where scum usually would be bussing Not_Mafia.
chkflip likely isn't scum because I don't see why two scum would pile on Bypasser Catcher with other options available. It is possible chkflip could be chainsawing the Bypass Catcher vote but it doesn't seem like a move scum need to make yet.

I don't really see Luca as scum here as scum would need something to jump onto to make Plus a counterwagon. I would have suspected quiet here if Plus was town, but quiet flipped town too. That begs the question... just what were scum doing at the time Not_Mafia's wagon got started?

My mind based off this VC goes to NorweiganboyEE, DGB, Andres, Molla, and Hayker as suspects.

[DrippingGoofball]

So chkflip is claiming vanilla cop, got it.

[Titus]

That's... crazy detailed. Exactly why I use it (and I trust you to regardless of alignment give me a jumping point). But technically that post is IIoA. Heh.

Pedit: you're being very persnickety for someone who was counter offered.

I know whether Titus, Mom, quiet, and you are vanilla or not. In that order. My reads have followed that train if you'd like to go back and check. No crumbs, but before I knew there was whatever the fuck a Doctor Tracker is flip TOWN I'm very much in the camp that the Role Cop is scum.

I did say Mom was vanilla before she claimed it, though.

I said that at some point yesterday.

Vanilla Cop or neopolitan?

[chkflip]

That is correct. There's a modifier but if you don't mind I'd rather I kept it to myself, tyvm.

Can you not see the reason I might be non-specific?

[DrippingGoofball]

I thought scum!flip was going to claim my role, since it's already been outed, and I was hoping he'd get caught with the wrong night choices.

I'm the lazy roleblocker.

N1 GE
N2 Norwegian
N3 quiet
N4 Momrangal

[DrippingGoofball]

That is correct. There's a modifier but if you don't mind I'd rather I kept it to myself, tyvm.

Can you not see the reason I might be non-specific?

Is the modifier "scum?"