Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Nancy Drew 39]

i think staying on her side is the best move to make, though.
sorry Nancy.

No offence @Chara but should I be worried about this? Cuz I still think you’re town but now I’m really super paranoid.

[Titus]

Question: why would Xtoxm not just claim Messenger? Why claim the modifiers? That significantly weakens the role for no reason.

It gives the conftown in case he dies. If he's tracked on disloyal nights, then it forces a 1 v 1 for scum where scum are literally forced to bus the target or face an uphill battle and net more conftown.

While I think xtoxm and starcrossed are S v S, it's never the strategic play to eliminate there.

[Titus]

Gamma Chara Morning about to concede?

This reeks of scum.

[Titus]

i don't think i can read Tweet properly, if that list was apparently so towny.
though i recognize it's a bad idea to base that feeling on Tweet's scumread on me including that i'm disconnected with the game right now, when she's also feeling that way and is apparently town. :/

but i don't have a strong reason to SR her. i guess i'm just upset with the state of things.

No reason for town to be upset here. We've got a scum elimination and either scum tying themselves together or a new conftown with a method of getting more clears. Overall, I am happy with the gamestate, even if I am the elimination.

[Titus]

i don't think i can read Tweet properly, if that list was apparently so towny.
though i recognize it's a bad idea to base that feeling on Tweet's scumread on me including that i'm disconnected with the game right now, when she's also feeling that way and is apparently town. :/

but i don't have a strong reason to SR her. i guess i'm just upset with the state of things.

I like this post.

Smh

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

uh i'd actually be trying, efforting, caring how i'm perceived (i.e. we wouldn't have multiple people calling me out for not efforting or for sounding weird), i would be doing more to get this wagon off of me
probably the most important one is that is the bit where people woudln't be calling me out for sounding weird/different - i'm very good at like ~presenting town~ as scum, i'm just not particularly caring abt it here
i'd look a lot more townier than i do

Can you show me how you’re different here than you were in last year’s TM game where you completely fooled everyone including RC?

Uh i basically answered that in the post ur quoting >.>

+ i'm not really trying to pocket anybody
Or control the trajectory of the gamestate
Or like trying to cultivate a +scum agenda (or any agenda at all ....)

I just found out I was scum’s #1 pocket in Pokeman Battles.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

i think staying on her side is the best move to make, though.
sorry Nancy.

No offence @Chara but should I be worried about this? Cuz I still think you’re town but now I’m really super paranoid.

[Titus]

Sorry for being absent, my attention as focused on pokemon upick since it was at deadline.

That game also had scum Chara getting guiltied by Hectic, after the flip in that game I read back this game and realized Chara was more passuve that game than it is here which is why I decided to rethink my read of them here.

Nancy's frustration in arguing with skitter also feels legitimate and not, like, in a scummy way. I don't scumread skitter, though. The whole fight just feels like mutual OMGUS without much substance behind it.

Tbh I had been thinking xtoxm was possibly a mason with the way he was lurking >_>. I'm okay with letting the claim stand for now, though.

MT's readlist doesn't do a whole lot for me, she seemed to have been floating along today until the votes went for her, like, I don't know what she was doing sheeping everything prior to that, I feel like she's capable of more...depth than this as town

Might be scum upset by the MT wagon dissolving

[Ydrasse]

wait . huh

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Question: why would Xtoxm not just claim Messenger? Why claim the modifiers? That significantly weakens the role for no reason.

It gives the conftown in case he dies. If he's tracked on disloyal nights, then it forces a 1 v 1 for scum where scum are literally forced to bus the target or face an uphill battle and net more conftown.

While I think xtoxm and starcrossed are S v S, it's never the strategic play to eliminate there.

I seriously doubt this. I think they’re both town.

[Ydrasse]

thinking ......

[Titus]

I feel like FL is going to wagon every single player in the game today

Is this a problem?

Catboi moves further down my scumlist

[Titus]

Question: why would Xtoxm not just claim Messenger? Why claim the modifiers? That significantly weakens the role for no reason.

It gives the conftown in case he dies. If he's tracked on disloyal nights, then it forces a 1 v 1 for scum where scum are literally forced to bus the target or face an uphill battle and net more conftown.

While I think xtoxm and starcrossed are S v S, it's never the strategic play to eliminate there.

I seriously doubt this. I think they’re both town.

Even though I think it's S v S, it's something where my accuracy would reveal itself in time. I am open to FL having an artifical impact on wagons throwing off my reads.

Strategically, xtoxm must give us a clear or confirm each night. If I could fake a tracker here I would and just outright hint that I got a result and was hiding it and watch the thread to get a read.

[Starcrossed]

+ i'm not really trying to pocket anybody

@firebringer we mean nothing to her

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

i think staying on her side is the best move to make, though.
sorry Nancy.

No offence @Chara but should I be worried about this? Cuz I still think you’re town but now I’m really super paranoid.

happy with that kill.

i think if i was town i'd be trying to eliminate Nancy right now. not for that "toxicity" (i find that a pretty crap reason to vote someone),

but for actual gameplay reasons

. hm.

Why though and it would never have happened. I have only got miselimed twice and it was in a hydra in games where I wasn’t anywhere close to obvtown, so no clue as to even wtf you were referring to?

I’m seriously freaking out now reading these two posts from them. I think I was really super obvtown in that game but yet for whatever reasons they didn’t see that but yet they’ve been hard defending me in THIS one.

[Titus]

BRB looking up evil catboys for an avatar

Yeah this is probably scum

[Titus]

I think skitter's pretty obviously scum here.

I am townreading skitter by play but I was wrong in Tenet sooo

[skitter30]

+ i'm not really trying to pocket anybody

@firebringer we mean nothing to her :(

Oh i retract ^ i am making a marked and decisive effort to pockit fire and pooky via shitposting

Otherwise no pockiting!

[Titus]

Town (Ydrasse, Gamma, VMP, Lunar, Fire, Catboi)
Extended POE 1 (Starcrossed, RCE/Skitter30/unwnd) - prob 1 scum
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POE (MT/Titus/Xtoxm/Chara)- prob 2 scum

I am not a fan of this PoE. The extended PoE is good. Catboi and Lunar are far too high though.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Question: why would Xtoxm not just claim Messenger? Why claim the modifiers? That significantly weakens the role for no reason.

It gives the conftown in case he dies. If he's tracked on disloyal nights, then it forces a 1 v 1 for scum where scum are literally forced to bus the target or face an uphill battle and net more conftown.

While I think xtoxm and starcrossed are S v S, it's never the strategic play to eliminate there.

I seriously doubt this. I think they’re both town.

Even though I think it's S v S, it's something where my accuracy would reveal itself in time. I am open to FL having an artifical impact on wagons throwing off my reads.

Strategically, xtoxm must give us a clear or confirm each night. If I could fake a tracker here I would and just outright hint that I got a result and was hiding it and watch the thread to get a read.

I need to understand what happens when he targets mafia because, I’m assuming he knows they’re town if they confirm his message right?

If Pooky is actually a scumbear here, I will be inconsolable. :/

[Titus]

I’m gonna bin Chara as town here

I do not get the Chara townreads. Off to work. Pausing here.

UNVOTE:

[Starcrossed]

I'm like above mason-level town rn

[Ydrasse]

me and starcrossed dancing happily in mason pt

[Titus]

Question: why would Xtoxm not just claim Messenger? Why claim the modifiers? That significantly weakens the role for no reason.

It gives the conftown in case he dies. If he's tracked on disloyal nights, then it forces a 1 v 1 for scum where scum are literally forced to bus the target or face an uphill battle and net more conftown.

While I think xtoxm and starcrossed are S v S, it's never the strategic play to eliminate there.

I seriously doubt this. I think they’re both town.

Even though I think it's S v S, it's something where my accuracy would reveal itself in time. I am open to FL having an artifical impact on wagons throwing off my reads.

Strategically, xtoxm must give us a clear or confirm each night. If I could fake a tracker here I would and just outright hint that I got a result and was hiding it and watch the thread to get a read.

I need to understand what happens when he targets mafia because, I’m assuming he knows they’re town if they confirm his message right?

If Pooky is actually a scumbear here, I will be inconsolable. :/

If Pooky makes ascetics targetable, then we can get a result on disloyal nights.

If xtoxm actually visits a slot on a disloyal night, then they are scum. Scum deny getting the message though. Xtoxm would have no way of knowing if this is a lie or the truth. That's why a tracker is needed to verify his visit/non-visit.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I think skitter's pretty obviously scum here.

I am townreading skitter by play but I was wrong in Tenet sooo

After reading the Pokemon Battles’ scum PT and knowing Hectic’s familarity with town!me, the likelihood that he directed his scumteam to pocket me is > higher than rand. I don’t ever want to read another scum PT where I am the #1 designated pocket.