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[bugspray]

was obvious

if it was obvious then why is koba dead? it really irks me when people call things obvious in mafia and then have to explain it because that means it wans't actually obvious in the first place

[bugspray]

Potentially yes.

I have suspicions on setup which I need to confirm via normal rulesets - its rare I play normals.

can you just say them publicly? right now we just now there's scum roleblock and masons

Theres a claimed roleblock action?

why did you refer to it as "claimed"?

[Flea The Magician]

Yup, a 2 shot D1 lim.

Potentially yes.

I have suspicions on setup which I need to confirm via normal rulesets - its rare I play normals.

can you just say them publicly? right now we just now there's scum roleblock and masons

Theres a claimed roleblock action?

why did you refer to it as "claimed"?

Because there's a distinct difference in meaning behind the word claimed instead of flipped.

[bugspray]

you mentioned you have setup suspiciouns that might not be normal
i say that there's not much public mech info other than scum roleblocker and the presence of masons and you implied that there was a claimed roleblocker when I was literally referring to it as "scum roleblock"
if i wanted to list them as three separate things i would have gone with "scum, roleblock, and masons" but I didn't because that's not what I meant

anyway...
can you talk about your setup spec publicly? it would be useful for everyone to be on the same page here

[bugspray]

ALSO we can talk about if it would even be normal

[Flea The Magician]

you mentioned you have setup suspiciouns that might not be normal
i say that there's not much public mech info other than scum roleblocker and the presence of masons and you implied that there was a claimed roleblocker when I was literally referring to it as "scum roleblock"
if i wanted to list them as three separate things i would have gone with "scum, roleblock, and masons" but I didn't because that's not what I meant

anyway...
can you talk about your setup spec publicly? it would be useful for everyone to be on the same page here

No, I said I had suspicions that needed to be clarified by checking what the normal mech spec is.

And the speculation is beyond moonlogic at this point, so no.

[bugspray]

how do you expect to get the suspicious clarified?

[Flea The Magician]

Through my own use of fae logic, shenanigans and existing posts

[nopointinactingup]

Tend to agree with Lotus here. I think scum not killing me means there is at least 1 scum in my town list, so facebones

[MiniMegabyte]

Vote Count 3.2

Facebones (2):

Andresvmb, RLotus

E-3

Not Voting (7):

nopointinactingup, bugsray, Jim Hawkins, geraintm, Egix96, Facebones, Flea The Magician

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate

Day Three Ends In:

(expired on 2021-02-03 13:09:00)

[Andresvmb]

What issue(s) do you see with that reads list?

Egix no offense but

you

should clearly see the issue with the reads list. Unless you’re going to openly admit that you’re Scum, two of the bottom three are for sure wrong from your POV.

[Andresvmb]

And how am I more Scummy than geraintm for example? And why is Jim null? It’s a completely absurd list.

[Andresvmb]

Though to be fair, the biggest problem with this maybe and something to think about, is that Tris is Null and was shot, and flipped Vanilla. Scum maybe would want to avoid that, and perhaps shoot amongst the more obvious Town. Then again, I do believe I understand why nopoint wasn’t fired at.

[Andresvmb]

On the other hand, Koba has been largely spot on actually when it comes to some of the reads they threw out D2. If you go back and look through them, they were being pretty good.

[Andresvmb]

very self-centered I know, but does anyone see me as scum?

How about you tell me where your head is at right now and maybe I’ll answer this question?

Hold on I’ll be back I’m going to make some juice.

[Andresvmb]

@Jim, RLotus get back in here and talk to me.

[RLotus]

Though to be fair, the biggest problem with this maybe and something to think about, is that Tris is Null and was shot, and flipped Vanilla. Scum maybe would want to avoid that, and perhaps shoot amongst the more obvious Town. Then again, I do believe I understand why nopoint wasn’t fired at.

I figured it was going to be you or nopoint getting nk, but I do think it makes sense he would leave alive nopoint as I believe nopoint had been calling him town and tris was calling him scum.

[RLotus]

And egix has been calling you scum so maybe you aren't as obvtown as a I perceive.

[Andresvmb]

And egix has been calling you scum so maybe you aren't as obvtown as a I perceive.

Sigh.

[nopointinactingup]

The lynch should definitely be one of Facebones, Gerain here, those are the two tris voted.

[Egix96]

What issue(s) do you see with that reads list?

Egix no offense but

you

should clearly see the issue with the reads list. Unless you’re going to openly admit that you’re Scum, two of the bottom three are for sure wrong from your POV.

Wrong does not equal scum. Next post is fair tho.

[Egix96]

And egix has been calling you scum so maybe you aren't as obvtown as a I perceive.

Tbf that was quite a while ago. I should give Andres another look when I have the chance.

[geraintm]

Ok, looking at the a bunch of the votes, this is where I am at

Andres – early onto Jim Hawkins, late onto Cook
Then day 2 Dkkoba

Facebones – was on Egix day 1, Dkkoba day 2

Nopoint – cook all the way through day 1 except a brief move to dkkoba, and dkkoba day 2

Bugspray – day 1 was on jim Hawkins, andres and me, day 2 dkkoba

Jim Hawkins – solidly cook day 1, dkkoba day 2. Similar to nopoint

Rlotus – waffled day 1 but came to cook, stepped off to dkkoba and then back to cook. Day 2 was dkkoba

Egis – day 1 ws npoint and andres, day 2 was me

Flea – mostly cook day 1, a vote for me and a blank
Voted me day 2

Things which stood out.

No Point I would have as Town even without the claim. Was onto Cook too early and never let up. I cannot see them as scum playing the long game
Jim Hawkins is the same.
I can’t see me voting either of these any time soon.

No one really voted prince zuko or tris either day, they were out of the blue really and on no ones obvious radars.

Flea I am leaning mostly town – early onto cook, didn’t vote the easy dkkoba day 2 (I think scum would hop onto the dkkoba wagon on day 2 because it was so simple to do so)

Andres/Rlotus – these are the two who came onto the cook wagon lateish and normally that would be sus to me.
But andres has the mason claim.

Rlotus looks…bad. Onto cook after earlier votes for facebones and flea, and trys to get off cook to dkkoba before going back. Looks worst so far as the prototypical scum who couldn’t not vote for their partner

Facebones & Bugspray were both nowhere near the Cook wagon day 1 and on the dkkoba day 2. To me, this is prototypical scum “not voting for partner, settle for the easy elimination day 2”
These go in the lean scum pile.

Egix I have a step down from these 2, as wasn’t on the DKkoba wagon

So roughly in order from towniest to scummiest

NoPoint
Andres
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jim Hawkins
Flea
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Egix
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Facebones
Bugspray
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RLOtus

So I intend to vote for Rlotus after I go back and look at their actual posts and not just votes.

[Facebones]

And how am I more Scummy than geraintm for example? And why is Jim null? It’s a completely absurd list.

I kinda touched on this before in my 1339 but Jim hadn't said anything which stood out to me as obv!town like the top tier of my list.

You're more scummy than Geraintm because of how you went from voting Cook in RVS, clearly stating "this is scum", before giving him the benefit of the doubt and subsequently voting Esooa/Tris. You and Cook both then jumped onto the Polaris and Jim wagons before you finally decided that Cook was probs gonna be elimmed anyway and wanted to distance yourself from him so you re-voted for him.
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If Koba flips Scum, execute Facebones with prejudice btw.

-Koba flips town-

VOTE: Facebones

Hmmm?

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-DkKobra/Gamma can't be town because otherwise scum would've hammered. Someone should just hurry up and hammer-

-any year now-

In retrospect this seems to me like scum getting frustrated. I'd argue that both remaining scum were already on the DkKobra wagon, and Andre was trying to guide town into mis-elimming, whether it was me or Tris or whoever frankly...
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andre- I already thought he was town for pressuring cook in day 1, but in hindsight knowing dk and essoa were town him playing peacemaker between them makes it hard to believe he is mafia.

Andre and DkKobra's interactions seemed... weird. My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place, and there was plenty of other viable options on D1. If Andre did vote with DkKobra for Essoa, and the wagon built and she flipped town, Andre knew there would absolutely be questions asked of him so from a scum!pov it would be best to not touch her with a 50 foot pole.

[Egix96]

My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place

Hardly relevant imo.