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[Andresvmb]

But andres has the mason claim.

Nopoint claimed Mason, not me. I do not have that Claim.

[Andresvmb]

I kinda touched on this before in my 1339 but Jim hadn't said anything which stood out to me as obv!town like the top tier of my list.

Except for the fact that they were the Counterwagon to Scum? That didn’t jump out at you at all?

[Andresvmb]

You and Cook both then jumped onto the Polaris and Jim wagons before you finally decided that Cook was probs gonna be elimmed anyway and wanted to distance yourself from him so you re-voted for him.

This would be funny if it wasn’t so obviously untrue. I think I was an important vote (as was Koba btw) in getting Cook through the finish line. And my vote did not just come late in the wagon when it was a sure thing. I actively engaged Koba to get it through. As did nopoint of course who was right from the start (and who I was TR’ing for it, mind you).

[Andresvmb]

In retrospect this seems to me like scum getting frustrated. I'd argue that both remaining scum were already on the DkKobra wagon, and Andre was trying to guide town into mis-elimming, whether it was me or Tris or whoever frankly...

I posted that only because Tris seemed to be dancing around it for a long time, knowing that we likely weren’t getting a different outcome out of that day.

[Andresvmb]

Andre and DkKobra's interactions seemed... weird. My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place, and there was plenty of other viable options on D1.

So many options, in fact, that I landed on my Partner and advocated for that execution. Seems legit.

[Andresvmb]

I’m upgrading geraintm for their catch-up actually, it seems rather reasonable, even if I don’t agree about RLotus at present (though I don’t like that opening that they left just recently).

[Andresvmb]

^opening on me that is.

[RLotus]

To be clear, I very much read you town. My point was I don't think the rest of the thread sees you as obvtown as I do.

[RLotus]

If Andre did vote with DkKobra for Essoa, and the wagon built and she flipped town, Andre knew there would absolutely be questions asked of him so from a scum!pov it would be best to not touch her with a 50 foot pole.

But, why would he interject instead of letting town fight and vote each other?

[bugspray]

ugh i'm too fucking hungry to read these posts but im gonna eat a meal in a few hours so im gonna be hungry until then because i dont wanna eat excess food!

[bugspray]

Facebones & Bugspray were both nowhere near the Cook wagon day 1

I pressured cook early a ton early and created most of that wagon's early momentum but decided to put my vote elsewhere later because I wanted to gather more info, this is really disenginuous

[bugspray]

for some reason a worm at the back of my head is whispering that andres is a bit scummy but another one says he has a good point on facebones and im conflicted
logic points to facebones but instanct says it's gotta be andres

[Andresvmb]

for some reason a worm at the back of my head is whispering that andres is a bit scummy but another one says he has a good point on facebones and im conflicted
logic points to facebones but instanct says it's gotta be andres

It’s a good thing you

really

don’t have to worry about my alignment this game.

So why is logic telling you Facebones is Scum? I want you to give me your perspective.

[Andresvmb]

To be clear, I very much read you town. My point was I don't think the rest of the thread sees you as obvtown as I do.

Ah, yes. I re-read, and I see what you mean. I did in fact misinterpret that at first.

[bugspray]

his reads on you don't seem truly thought out, like it was scum just making something up on the spot but using lots of words so that it sounds like critical thinking was used

[bugspray]

Andre and DkKobra's interactions seemed... weird. My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place, and there was plenty of other viable options on D1. If Andre did vote with DkKobra for Essoa, and the wagon built and she flipped town, Andre knew there would absolutely be questions asked of him so from a scum!pov it would be best to not touch her with a 50 foot pole.

this is just incomprehensible moonlogic and tries to make connections to multiple things which are completely separate and unrelated

[Jim Hawkins]

Considering who is left, here are my updated reads:

Town Vibes: nopointinactingup, Andresvmb, bugspray
Nullish Vibes: Flea The Magician, Egix96
Scum Vibes: geraintm, Facebones, RLotus

Out of the scum, I would rather vote geraintm and then Facebones.

[Facebones]

My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place

Hardly relevant imo.

Hypothetical: You join a game only because of person A. You roll scum, they roll town- would you want to vote for person A on D1 and have them eliminated for the rest of the game or would you prefer to keep them around for a bit longer and sheep their reads, in a very similar vein as one of your scum buddies (Cook) did?

[bugspray]

Facebones it's completely irrelevant. It's assuming someone did something that wasn't for their wincon which while it is impossible to know if that is the case it is still a ridiculous assertion
VOTE: facebones

[Facebones]

Andre and DkKobra's interactions seemed... weird. My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place, and there was plenty of other viable options on D1.

So many options, in fact, that I landed on my Partner and advocated for that execution. Seems legit.

After swapping your votes from Cook to Essoa to Polaris to Jim before finally realising that bussing one of your scum buddies might be the best play to get the townie cred you need to further yourself and your faction in the game.

[Facebones]

VOTE: Facebones

[Facebones]

That's E-1

[geraintm]

But andres has the mason claim.

Nopoint claimed Mason, not me. I do not have that Claim.

no im VT and i tried to get nightkilled

But you just hardclaimed it going into today and outted the other pair... sigh.

i read this and when you said pair i believed you meant two people, with one of them yourself.
my read on you now is much, much worse.

[Egix96]

Intent to hammer, I'm taking that selfvote as a scum claim.

[Egix96]

My guess is scum!Andre didn't want to elim town!DkKobra D1 because as he stated earlier, DkKobra is the only reason why Andre signed up for this game in the first place

Hardly relevant imo.

Hypothetical: You join a game only because of person A. You roll scum, they roll town- would you want to vote for person A on D1 and have them eliminated for the rest of the game or would you prefer to keep them around for a bit longer and sheep their reads, in a very similar vein as one of your scum buddies (Cook) did?

Joining a game just because someone else did is not an excuse to attach yourself to them all game.

It's almost as silly as saying I shouldn't have voted geraint d2 just because he's from the same country as me.