Open 804: Popcorn Mafia Redux [Game Over!]

[Imperium]

i find it odd that like no one was talking about n_m until i replaced in and then i say he has a strong chance to be scum and there was this flurry of posts about him a few pages later

STT - I don't think you answered a question I asked earlier. Why was Mush the only person you wanted meta links for and did meta research on?

[Imperium]

oh sure now my computer decides to quote a post by peta.

[RLotus]

Imperium, I think your scumread of petapan relies a lot on BoP. I really liked your reasoning on why you are probably not with norfolk, but it is quite elborate and not the conclusion I would have come to on my own, let alone someone just beginning to soak up the game.

[RLotus]

And with the egging on me being shot thing, I can see why people are drawing that conclusion. The little interaction we had about my push on Duchess was very minor and easy to gloss over.

[Imperium]

i find it odd that like no one was talking about n_m until i replaced in and then i say he has a strong chance to be scum and there was this flurry of posts about him a few pages later

I don't really think it's BoP, but it is probably a huge amount of burden of just being a good player. I've been grading and getting assignments posted all day and my words are leaving me as my brain is frying. I'm nowhere at Petapan should be right or die. I've seen him be wrong; I've seen him tunnel and be wrong. As he's seen me tunnel and be wrong. (I've also seen him be really correct.) I guess I expect deeper thoughts or analysis. Maybe I'll be able to word this better.

I also realize I think I did the math wrong because us getting shot afterwards if Norfolk does flip scum doesn't lose us the game. I counted it wrong in my head.

And I don't agree with drawing that conclusion. I just reread it again to see if I could see that, and I just don't. I mean we talked about several people in the game, and I'm not sure how me repeating my minor fluff and that I needed to reread that but I hadn't done it yet could be construed as egging it on. Though I am wondering why unwnd immediately asked if you would shoot duchess right away if you got the gun. I'll have to come back to this when I can word why it just stuck out to me.

[Imperium]

lol my computer really likes that peta quote

[RLotus]

I'm pretty much ready to shoot tbh, I keep coming back to the same scumreads. I'll dump all my thoughts first.

[Imperium]

I'm pretty much ready to shoot tbh, I keep coming back to the same scumreads. I'll dump all my thoughts first.

This is Nacho head. Pretty confident that the scumteam is Norfolk-Not_Mafia-Whemestar-petapan-Duchess with Dunn as a possible but not really likely sub for Duchess.

I have to wake up in a little over 4 hours so I can get to work on 5AM CST. I will be at work until 3 PM. Please just give me the opportunity to explain why I think that's the solve and then you can guns away shoot whoever the hell you want, I just want to get one readslist out there.

[RLotus]

Ok, I will hold off until tomorrow then

[Imperium]

Thanks. Appreciate you.

[Imperium]

Peta, thank you for revealing yourself for me. I'm fucking pumped for the opportunity to bury you tomorrow because we're at the point where us 1v1'ing is probably the best play. I haven't had a proper dance with someone of your skill level since I've returned and I've been fucking ITCHING for it.

[Imperium]

Just don't roll over and die tomorrow. Bring the thunder.

I also appreciated the dirty dirty attack on Mush yesterday because it's a move that only 1% of scum players on site are willing to launch (and I think I'm one of them), but I'm surprised you broke cover with her this early - I probably would have waited, but I have a ton of respect for people who are willing to be manipulative to that extent because it is THOSE people that teach others the importance of emotions, and it is those people that make the game worth playing for me. Just don't disappoint me here - I want to see the best a player of your caliber can bring in a situation as grimy as this.

[Imperium]

Imperium, I think your scumread of petapan relies a lot on BoP. I really liked your reasoning on why you are probably not with norfolk, but it is quite elborate and not the conclusion I would have come to on my own, let alone someone just beginning to soak up the game.

My read on him is BoP. Petapan is what we like to call a transcendent talent in the game of mafia, and the danger of this combination is that I've played with him enough to have a damn good idea of how he thinks and approaches and analyzes the game as town. BoP reads are the only reads I go this nuclear on simply because there are points in a game where scum HAVE to take certain positions in order to get certain mislynches win the game and that's exactly what he did here.

And I know that you don't know me and that we haven't played together, but trust that I see something here. I am a 12 year veteran of the game on this site and most of those were concurrent; mafia a huge person I am who I am today. The person that I'm hydraing with is my girlfriend who I have been dating for 6 years is someone that I met on this site - I was at one time the top poster out of all the crap ton of users that was here and as you can see I hydra fairly fucking frequently and I'm not afraid of making posts that take hours and hours to craft. I know trust is hard to give when you have no idea who I am but trust me when I say that mafia is in my blood and trust me that if you shoot peta or you shoot me so I can put the bullet in his head myself that I will deliver us a win here.

[Imperium]

And I'm not asking for blind faith, either.

Tomorrow, no matter how tired I am, I will craft a masterpiece. It will be a wall that will take a SIGNIFICANT amount of time but I will back my shit up and I will summarize so you only have to read my detailed explanations if the tl;dr doesn't work for you. I will bury Norfolk/Peta/Not Mafia because those are the ones I am most confident in, then I will throw the kitchen AND the fucking bathroom sink at WhemeStar and Duchess because it turns out I'm still fucking confident in those reads too.

I will lead you to the promised land. And all I need you to do is either trust me or shoot me.

[SirCakez]

5 of you are town and 5 of you are scum

Cakez Tammycho unwnd RLotus MUSH (VACANT)

--Null void--
Peta
STT
N_M
--Null void--

Duchess Dunnstral Whemestar Norfolk (VACANT)

What I'm wokring with right now form a pure PoE standpoint

This is such a lazy scum team and makes me think you are scum

Not really I actually think he's pretty close

[SirCakez]

I'm pretty much ready to shoot tbh, I keep coming back to the same scumreads. I'll dump all my thoughts first.

This is Nacho head. Pretty confident that the scumteam is Norfolk-Not_Mafia-Whemestar-petapan-Duchess with Dunn as a possible but not really likely sub for Duchess.

I have to wake up in a little over 4 hours so I can get to work on 5AM CST. I will be at work until 3 PM. Please just give me the opportunity to explain why I think that's the solve and then you can guns away shoot whoever the hell you want, I just want to get one readslist out there.

Hmm we have many SRs in common...

[SirCakez]

Lotus before you shoot I think it might be a good idea if you say who so people can voice any last thoughts

Because I think Netflix shooting you has shown itself to be a mistake for the game long term and we might have avoided that if they had something and not just YOLOed it out

[SirCakez]

if they had said something*

[Imperium]

And just so you know that this potential for greatness exists:

This was the last popcorn mafia I played. I hydra'ed with the moderator of this game. The scum that I shot D1 we were able to identify thanks to a transparent meta and because the way she approached us. The next scum that we shot was the BoP shot because we

knew

that he would be bothered by the same shit we were with scum #1. It's a one in a million read, and we got it just now with petapan, and this setup is all about momentum; so once petapan goes down, the others are falling like dominoes.

[Imperium]

I'm pretty much ready to shoot tbh, I keep coming back to the same scumreads. I'll dump all my thoughts first.

This is Nacho head. Pretty confident that the scumteam is Norfolk-Not_Mafia-Whemestar-petapan-Duchess with Dunn as a possible but not really likely sub for Duchess.

I have to wake up in a little over 4 hours so I can get to work on 5AM CST. I will be at work until 3 PM. Please just give me the opportunity to explain why I think that's the solve and then you can guns away shoot whoever the hell you want, I just want to get one readslist out there.

Hmm we have many SRs in common...

You have a chance for redemption in the eleventh hour. Will you take it?

[SirCakez]

I am at the point with you where I will not be shooting you immediately if I get the gun
But I don't ever think I won't be paranoid of you this game and depending on further flips you might go right back under the gun

[Imperium]

So no. That's okay, Cakez. Just remember this moment postgame. This is peak Nacho town.

[unwnd]

Hey nacho can you go back to scumreading me getting into a 1v1 hardcore sounds really fun no sarcasm

[WhemeStar]

If you guys are in agreeance with me being in a scumteam please shoot me out of the other possibilities so I can go on a murder spree.

[Imperium]

Anyways, going to sleep hopefully (I have to wake up in less than 3 hours!!). I'm sorry for being so spammy and jazzed at the moment, but this is the high that I've been chasing since I've returned to the site. I don't really love playing town but I put in a bunch of effort in so that I can occasionally get payoffs just like this, so, again, thank you peta for this gift of life.

And y'all have no idea how badly I'm struggling preventing myself from begging for the gun but I am practically salivating over the satisfaction that I would get from shooting peta at this point - I really just want lotus to shoot me first so I can get ALL THE GLORY but my mind knows that it's not the "optimal play" but.