TM 2021: A normal roguelike

[Augustus Caesar]

this is all pichu speaking
if you want to talk to me - ask for pichu
i'm not like the others who are okay with all being called "Augustus" or "Hectic" like they're all the same person
like wtf i'm my own baby pokemon and don't wanna be clumped up with th rest

pedit woah quick answer

[Datisi]

/shrug, i'm around.

[Augustus Caesar]

quick answers are a good thing
how was your team split for voting RCE or Summer?

[Augustus Caesar]

my concern about the hammer thing is that i think you're aware that a lack of urgency to be on a scumflip can look towny
so my tinfoil is that you kept asking and getting "yes just hammer him" - though this might've just been from me
but wanted to stay off the wagon for the possibility someone loltownreads you for "Datisi didn't feel the need to vote or hammer RCE"

[Datisi]

also, if you're about to ask my current read on summer: fuck if i know. i still dislike most of her day one (peta said it nicely in the post he voted her) and i think it's weird rce never voted her. like, his n1 vig claim was obviously fabricated to at least let him survive one night. so when there was a counterwagon building, he could easily give an excuse of "better her than me". why doesn't he?

pedit: s_s and lilith were telling me to kill it with fire, especially after i pulled out the quote where he was talking about himself as a likely day 1 yeet. duck had reservations (he's the one who warned me about lurk!town!beeboy meta after all), and he didn't like summer's slot *anyway*, so.

[Augustus Caesar]

your vote landing only after Reck's did is also something that's eh to me
hm hm hm
oh i should rule out Datisi + Reck for the close proximity of those votes and scum not coutnerwagoning like that when they're unaware of the momentum from other townies

[Datisi]

my concern about the hammer thing is that i think you're aware that a lack of urgency to be on a scumflip can look towny
so my tinfoil is that you kept asking and getting "yes just hammer him" - though this might've just been from me
but wanted to stay off the wagon for the possibility someone loltownreads you for "Datisi didn't feel the need to vote or hammer RCE"

had anyone other than you (and maybe summer) said it? i was thinking of people like ari/bulge/sirius/xof/whoever else is a lurk/low-content, and wondering if it's worth giving them some time, and also wondering if people were gonna be mad at me for *not* giving them time.

just don't townread me for that ez clap?

[Augustus Caesar]

also, if you're about to ask my current read on summer: fuck if i know. i still dislike most of her day one (peta said it nicely in the post he voted her) and i think it's weird rce never voted her. like, his n1 vig claim was obviously fabricated to at least let him survive one night. so when there was a counterwagon building, he could easily give an excuse of "better her than me". why doesn't he?

maybe but people will inevitably read that excuse as scummy or survivalitic
entirely possible he was going for "be non-survivalistic to look towny"
or would've just hammered her as soon as she hit E-1
don't think it reflects on Summer's alignment very much

[Augustus Caesar]

had anyone other than you (and maybe summer) said it? i was thinking of people like ari/bulge/sirius/xof/whoever else is a lurk/low-content, and wondering if it's worth giving them some time, and also wondering if people were gonna be mad at me for *not* giving them time.

just don't townread me for that ez clap?

lol ok
there were a lot of slots that hadn't reacted to the recent events so that's fair

[Datisi]

entirely possible he was going for "be non-survivalistic to look towny"

that's one of the things that kinda brought me back around to rce being the yeet. a townie who may be able to prove themselves and be conftown the next day? imo you're gamethrowing if you're *not* being survivalistic in that case.

[Augustus Caesar]

yee good point
i townlean or townread all of the LHF slots which makes this game very exciting to me
i want these wolves to be so deep that i have to use an anchor to fish them out

[Sirius9121]

random boop

[Augustus Caesar]

non-random and entirely calculated boop

[Datisi]

do you have any scumreads you'd want to share, pichu?

[Augustus Caesar]

working on those Datisi
i'm mobile posting while doing other activities but will probably iso people later

i will say that Deus is someone i have gutscumread and logictownread for the entire game
his tone feels scummy but everything he says makes sense and i like

i like your explanation that you thought RCE/Summer might've been SvS which is why you tactically didn't answer my question
that's a fairly nuanced thing to come up with as scum

wait gtg

[The Bulge]

I started reading from the top yesterdsy and taking notes (!) which I've never really done before. I don't think Datisi is plausibly scum anymore, but I did think I had found something re:peta!scum that turns out was nothing at all. I'll check in again once I get more reading done.

[Creature]

Goddamn I got homework now

[Creature]

Maybe I'll try to do something in-between, but I won't be able to use my full concentration until I'm done.

[xRECKONERx]

This started, will get to it tomorrow. Peta being dead helps narrow my pool though

[Adorable]

Can anyone tell me what do they think of Xofelf? I did not like it when they called me and Summer a team. When I iso Xofelf at 829 they said along the lines of, "guys, we have 3 days and there is a single wagon, the fuck are we doing? We all need to step it up." What did Xofelf mean by this? They also said their reads are gutreads but I don't like gutreads.

[Sirius9121]

on retrospect there's nothing except gutreads on D1

[DeasVail]

Okay let's see what happens when I do this

VOTE: xofelf*

I used to like your posts but on a review of the game, they feel frigid. There's a lack of spontaneity which makes me worried that you're scum overthinking your posts.

(also the movement around the beeboy/RCE-slot does not look good)

Reck, if I am completely off here then please let me know but I think we may need to reconsider our read on txof

*inspired by Adorable

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My reads may be in overhaul so no specific reads update for now, but I really really need to see more from Summer Nights. I don't feel as good about eliminating her as I did when voting her Day 1 though.

I considered pushing Bulge today and it is still a possibility imo but in some ways the weak case on Datisi is something that I think is

less

likely from scum while a lurker-buddy is being wagoned? No way Bulge thought that the Datisi case would save the beeboy slot. The more I type the more I feel uncomfortable with Bulge as scum.

I think mostly right now I want to explore xof and would like to engage Reck about this as someone else who townread Xof with me early on.

[Sirius9121]

Staarling

aka Hectic,

Is Drawn from Memory town or scum leaning and why

[xRECKONERx]

Can anyone tell me what do they think of Xofelf? I did not like it when they called me and Summer a team. When I iso Xofelf at 829 they said along the lines of, "guys, we have 3 days and there is a single wagon, the fuck are we doing? We all need to step it up." What did Xofelf mean by this? They also said their reads are gutreads but I don't like gutreads.

xofelf strikes me as disengaged and ineffective but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative. xofelf isn't a standard mafia player, as in, they don't play a lot... and if you look at their whole team, it's comprised of people who may have a tendency to not be as engaged, which in turn wouldn't spurn xofelf to more activity. (Contrasting to my team, where if I start to fall behind or lose motivation, AGar or Keely will kick me in the ass to jump back in.)

I don't think xof lambasting people for being scattered on diff wagons is really bad but:

- 829 is such a blatant defense of RCE that I cannot imagine xof would've done that were they buddied with RCE. I know that I am probably flirting with "too scummy to be scum" again, but I'm more specifically talking about how xofelf FRAMES RCE in context. It's not about how pro-town RCE is, it's about how empty and lethargic the game is.

- xof has had the same thoughts as me at very similar points in the game, which is always going to be +townpoints in my mind.

- xof is going hard on calling me town, when I expect scum in a similar position would see some momentum shifting my direction and drop some little shade here and there to open me up as a viable mislim later on. Instead, not only is xof doubling down on that, they're bringing in Ceph's reads on me as well to solidify the position. Sure, it could be white knighting, but to what end? I wasn't under a ton of pressure, so it's not earning them any town points.

The ONLY point against xof that I am having trouble grappling with is the hop back onto RCE at the end. It's a little on-its-face... it feels like a very weak reason to get on that wagon to get some last second town points. Like, if I'm scum sitting off the RCE wagon, "well idk ab this but my teammate said to do it" is about as hamfisted and forced as it can get. So there's a world in which I guess 1057 is a scumpost meant to bus a buddy with "N1 vig claim doesn't sit right with me". But the body of the rest of xof's work isn't pointing to scum-xof imo.

[xRECKONERx]

^ The above was also @DV in terms of discussing xofslot