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[BBmolla]

Literally the only way y’all could screw up this if you don’t eliminate in all of BBMolla/Vaxkiller/Hayker.
And whatever other dweebs are voting me.

Titus wagon was 100% town

Why would scum do that

Why is this so hard for you to believe? Like theoretically in a game with this many executions, some of them could easily be just by random chance all Town. Like it’s a bad argument to make. Because of instead of pointing at who you think could be Scum on the wagon (which you’re not doing at all), you’re throwing a theoretical argument to what derail a wagon today?

Cause I’m town

[BBmolla]

Hope you guys are right on Vax but the fact of the matter is there’s one scum in {Luca/Andres/NorwEE}

Why am I still on this solve? I want to see you make an argument agains Binatog. Because if you’re not doing that, then you’re being silly to think the Scum would waste their Role Cop who is under some massive suspicion on a buddy that particular night. There’s no common sense behind that at all and you should know better. Like I get that I’m not cleared and I don’t want people to assume that I am completely, but at the same time just trying to discredit me without making an actual argument against my slot or Binatog is bogus.

Scum would not use their Rolecop to target a buddy when they leaving alive a role watcher on purpose and most PRs are already mostly outed?

I seriously disagree

[Andresvmb]

How does that answer my question at all? Okay you’re obviously going to insist you’re Town. But why is it impossible for a wagon to have formed with just all Town? I’ve been in games where that’s the case D1. And with a slot that has literally the entire game wrong (and go look at Titus’ ISO - it’s a mess), why is that unbelievable? I criticized Titus’ solves MULTIPLE times, and they WERE horrible.

[BBmolla]

Like I said I hope Vax is scum cause miselimming me after a mafia elim is better than elimming town now and being in possible limlo

[NorwegianboyEE]

Molla is getting desperate now that remaining scum need to go against 4 conf!town.

[Andresvmb]

Scum would not use their Rolecop to target a buddy when they leaving alive a role watcher on purpose and most PRs are already mostly outed?

I seriously disagree

Go see if chkflip ever crumbs their target. If they did, then you could possibly make this ridiculous argument. If you can’t, then this is just idiotic.

[BBmolla]

How does that answer my question at all? Okay you’re obviously going to insist you’re Town. But why is it impossible for a wagon to have formed with just all Town? I’ve been in games where that’s the case D1. And with a slot that has literally the entire game wrong (and go look at Titus’ ISO - it’s a mess), why is that unbelievable? I criticized Titus’ solves MULTIPLE times, and they WERE horrible.

I am having trouble believing someone seriously believes that

three mafia

all decided to not help a miselim

Show me one game where that happens and I’ll concede the point.

[Andresvmb]

Like who works under the assumption that the Scum would use their Role in a game that is obviously incredibly heavy on PRs to target their buddy in the hopes that the backup Watcher targets the buddy.

[BBmolla]

Scum would not use their Rolecop to target a buddy when they leaving alive a role watcher on purpose and most PRs are already mostly outed?

I seriously disagree

Go see if chkflip ever crumbs their target. If they did, then you could possibly make this ridiculous argument. If you can’t, then this is just idiotic.

It’s not.

[Andresvmb]

How does that answer my question at all? Okay you’re obviously going to insist you’re Town. But why is it impossible for a wagon to have formed with just all Town? I’ve been in games where that’s the case D1. And with a slot that has literally the entire game wrong (and go look at Titus’ ISO - it’s a mess), why is that unbelievable? I criticized Titus’ solves MULTIPLE times, and they WERE horrible.

I am having trouble believing someone seriously believes that

three mafia

all decided to not help a miselim

Show me one game where that happens and I’ll concede the point.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12144862

[BBmolla]

Like who works under the assumption that the Scum would use their Role in a game that is obviously incredibly heavy on PRs to target their buddy in the hopes that the backup Watcher targets the buddy.

For the hope that they are “cleared” in a situation where the rolecop isn’t necessarily needed anymore

If I had to guess I would have guessed all roles were outed by yesterday

[Andresvmb]

Like I don’t understand why you think I just make shit up.

[BBmolla]

How does that answer my question at all? Okay you’re obviously going to insist you’re Town. But why is it impossible for a wagon to have formed with just all Town? I’ve been in games where that’s the case D1. And with a slot that has literally the entire game wrong (and go look at Titus’ ISO - it’s a mess), why is that unbelievable? I criticized Titus’ solves MULTIPLE times, and they WERE horrible.

I am having trouble believing someone seriously believes that

three mafia

all decided to not help a miselim

Show me one game where that happens and I’ll concede the point.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12144862

I concede the point

[BBmolla]

Like I don’t understand why you think I just make shit up.

It’s more NorwEE than you, their leaps in logic this game have been ???

Like why did they assume third party?

[BBmolla]

Like even if somehow it was one

Who assumes that it’s third party who miskilled 4 nights in a row rather than a 1-shot Vig

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like why did they assume third party?

No vig claim.

[Andresvmb]

Gamma quiet Hawker Plusjoyed/andres scum theory at this point. Plusjoyed/andres being the weakest parts.

I think this is a horrendous solve.

I mean LOOK AT THIS. Outside of maybe Hayker, everybody else has flipped Town. If you sheeped Titus’ reads in reverse maybe you win this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

To argue that i’m insane to believe it could be third party is literally TMI’ing that there are 4 scum.

[BBmolla]

Like why did they assume third party?

No vig claim.

There were still two people unclaimed at that point

It’s an enormous leap

[BBmolla]

To argue that i’m insane to believe it could be third party is literally TMI’ing that there are 4 scum.

To make that assumption you’d be much more likely scum

All I know is with the info I have there’s no way I’d make that guess

[Andresvmb]

Actually I’m starting to think Norwegian has a point. The reason the Vig is not outting is because they completely ruined the Scum plan and would get immediately shot by them at Night.

[BBmolla]

I stand by everything I’ve said regardless of flips or whatever

There’s like 8 power roles or some shit in this game they just keep coming out of the woodwork

[Andresvmb]

If it’s Town, no downside. We have an IC like there’s no way the Vig gets shot before that for example. But the fact that we still don’t know does make me think that Norwegian isn’t crazy.

[BBmolla]

Actually I’m starting to think Norwegian has a point. The reason the Vig is not outting is because they completely ruined the Scum plan and would get immediately shot by them at Night.

NorwEEs point is they aren’t claiming cause they are third party not this lol

[Andresvmb]

Those points are tied together. If the Vig is 3p, that’s the first execution in ELo with 4 flipped Scum and the game not over. No?