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[Andresvmb]

I'd like to point out that Andre and Bugspray are the only remaining players who were onboard the Jim wagon, the alternate wagon to Cook on D1. The other 2 players on the Jim wagon (Tris and DjKobra) both flipped town. I highly doubt Cook was the only mafia member voting for Jim, and incidentally both Andre and Bugspray were also on the DjKobra wagon as well as mine. PoE says one of them must be scum.

I have reasons to think bugspray could in fact be Scum. I even pointed out to you that {bugspray, RLotus} suddenly look a lot worse if you assume geraintm is Town for example. So it isn’t crazy.

But I’m going to insist that you move on from shading my slot because it’ll make you look foolish. I really can’t hint at this any harder than I already have.

[Andresvmb]

I am not sure what my incredibly scummy behaviour is. Not voting day 1 is what I do every game

Except your vote was on me if I’m not wrong? I’ll go look.

[Andresvmb]

ooh, quotes went wrong there but VOTE: andresvmb

Like right here? What are you talking about?

[Andresvmb]

Saying that you didn’t vote D1 when you did is kind of silly so I’m assuming this isn’t completely AI but what I do find interesting is that you seem to be leaning into your Town meta *without actually adhering to it here*. You have been vocal about your suspicions on my slot even after I was an important voice (but not more important than say nopoint) in eliminating Cook.

[Facebones]

VOTE: Bugspray

[Andresvmb]

And it’s been the case since early in the game. So much so that you put a vote down on my slot. And even after I keep insisting you’re way wrong (in a way that can be shown), you still maintain your silly position. I don’t get it.

[Andresvmb]

VOTE: Bugspray

If there was ever any indication that we could be wrong about Facebones, I presume this would be it? I would have voted geraintm there as Scum.

[Andresvmb]

Unless it’s exactly their buddy in which case you don’t have much of a choice haha

[Andresvmb]

@Facebones you still need to claim. So maybe stop stalling if you don’t want to get randomly hammered here.

[RLotus]

I'm having second thoughts about FB tbh

[RLotus]

I'd like to point out that Andre and Bugspray are the only remaining players who were onboard the Jim wagon, the alternate wagon to Cook on D1. The other 2 players on the Jim wagon (Tris and DjKobra) both flipped town. I highly doubt Cook was the only mafia member voting for Jim, and incidentally both Andre and Bugspray were also on the DjKobra wagon as well as mine. PoE says one of them must be scum.

Posts like that do give me the impression he is really trying to solve

[RLotus]

Same feeling I had about him on D1

[RLotus]

It bothers me how gerain uses a voting analysis as his major way to read the game, yet pretty much stays out of the way of any wagon. Like, his system is designed to make himself look good. I don't know if that makes him scum necessarily, still want further thoughts than just analysis of votes.

I'll just UNVOTE: for now

[geraintm]

ooh, quotes went wrong there but VOTE: andresvmb

Like right here? What are you talking about?

you're right, i did have a vote day 1. i totally forgot. sorry.
it wasn't intentional, there is no reason to have lied about something public like this.

[nopointinactingup]

How do you know it's a T/T fight? Scummy. And in this case I don't think tu quoque applies, as scum must lie, so, therefore, their reasoning is incorrect.

VOTE: Andresvmb

Can we get a votecount?

The problem I see with Andres scum is this. Why would Cook shade + vote Andres as partner here. It seems like a tmi leading to misrepresentation on a town slot.

[nopointinactingup]

Not to mention he was the deciding vote between my wagon and Cook's wagon

[nopointinactingup]

I keep a lot of notes pts

Bugspray could have lied and apologized for a townslip but they didn't which even further increases my belief they are town

I initially interpreted this as tmi buddying to town, but in a way it could be trying to earn towncred for a buddy, what do you guys think?

[nopointinactingup]

I'm also getting major fence-sitting observation over analysis vibe from Flea. So that's where I'm going to park my vote atm

VOTE: Flea

[nopointinactingup]

It bothers me how gerain uses a voting analysis as his major way to read the game, yet pretty much stays out of the way of any wagon. Like, his system is designed to make himself look good. I don't know if that makes him scum necessarily, still want further thoughts than just analysis of votes.

I'll just UNVOTE: for now

I think gerain mentioned wagon analysis as his major way of contributing to a game from out last game together.

[nopointinactingup]

I'm actually not willing to lynch anyone I called scum yesterday (Egix, Gerain). It's also surely the case that scum is in my town pile and that's why I'm being left alive.

[nopointinactingup]

I have very strong TR on Lotus, Jim, Andres and fuck me if they are scum but I'm not willing to lynch them either.

[nopointinactingup]

That leaves Flea, Facebones and very very Bug as my lynch pool for today. Facebones' recent posts are actually pretty good. I also personally don't think Scum would put themselves at E-1 and come back 8 hours later to unvote

[nopointinactingup]

*very very hesitantly Bug

[Andresvmb]

I’m going to give you that Facebones could very well be Town, though honestly I do think Facebones should have claimed but at this time there’s not enough there. But I don’t know that it’s *super* likely that both Facebones and geraintm are both Town, but sure I could be very wrong I’ve been way off before no reason to think I couldn’t be here.

[nopointinactingup]

If Gerain was scum, he would have NKed me since he knows I have a tendency to tunnel based on his experiences with me and he would have expected me gun for him today since he was my second scum-read yesterday.