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[Cephrir]

oh my god it goes all the way back

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: hercule fair

see, i kind of don't think hercule does like the exact same shit he did in the first game (immediate lamisty self-arguments and suggestions for why he should be conftown) but with a slightly different tone unless he's thinking on like level 3? but maybe he just is like, thinking on level 3 here

fwiw i think lld and mastina are my top townleans

is this the part where I "sheep LLD on killing mastina's townreads" Titus?

this didn't really have anything to do with LLD, i was just talking to Oka and i think i thought it would be fun to pressure hercule who i wanted more from at that point anyway

[OkaPoka]

cool right? only fucked up once and had some really good moments


dont spoil it

[Cephrir]

i was going to make your next post for you but then u posted before me and i don't have a non awkward way to get the next one

[Cephrir]

im townreading u now

[innocentvillager]

thanks ceph and oka y'all got my back <3 i knew you guys would realize im town!

[OkaPoka]

place ing the right words at the right time is very difficult

the ritual does require creative liberties and i have taken them when necessary

but my iso must be nearly pure~amidst my mistakes i must continue to repent for my sins

[Cephrir]

we're summoning demons together now, but i'll probably get bored

[innocentvillager]

Although I am not as very transparently Town as I was the time before

i don’t like this after thinking more about it

ik this is kind of old (?) but can you talk about what you thought about?

[Dannflor]

Oh my fucking god

That’s why you keep saying “star this”

Holy shit

[innocentvillager]

nothing to see here dannflor move along

[innocentvillager]

okapoka is either confirmed town or confirmed scum

[Ythan]

SHOOTING FUCK I RUINED THE RITUAL IGNORE THE ABOVE POST

NEVER EDIT YOUR POSTS

Layers of failure.

[Dannflor]

okapoka is either confirmed town or confirmed scum

very astute

[innocentvillager]

okapoka is either confirmed town or confirmed scum

very astute

thnk u dannflor!

[DrippingGoofball]

So is Oka null then?

Null scummish but I am biased, I really want him to be town. The mod may have decided otherwise

[OkaPoka]

SHOOTING FUCK I RUINED THE RITUAL IGNORE THE ABOVE POST

NEVER EDIT YOUR POSTS

Layers of failure.

and i already made the layer joke xd

[Hopkirk]

gth

{innocentvillager}
{mastina}
{OkaPoka}
{Hopkirk, hercule, DGB}
{everyone else???}
{LLD, Dann, A50} sure i will sheep the PoE that has been floating around whatever for now i can't read Dann or LLD whatsoever

good readslist

gth

{innocentvillager}
{mastina}
{OkaPoka}
{Hopkirk, hercule, DGB}
{everyone else???}
{LLD, Dann, A50} sure i will sheep the PoE that has been floating around whatever for now i can't read Dann or LLD whatsoever

I'd also kill this reads list in a heart beat, so I'm happy to so IV today as well, honestly.

...

shine ing stars need to carry me

@lld ok sorry i personally respect RC's play a lot but if there's bad blood that's understandable

Okay, three things.

Firstly, RC is a bad person, and I'd rather not be compared to that.

Secondly, RC isn't all that great at mafia, but that's kind of besides the point.

Thirdly, I've played in games with RC, so saying I'm RC would kind of be implicitly implying I am a cheater, which I take a high amount of offense to.

You get one warning. I don't care if it's a joke. You get one.

so i had Flopz right here on voice chat. he'd taken a quick literal three minutes to read the entire thread and he got even further than i had. he was going to post his reads... going to... then he read this post. do you know how much of a RadiantCowbells fan Flopz is? he constantly brings up in irl conversations in real life that RC is basically his idol. he says that he would have printed out pictures of RC's avatar to put as posters on his wall if he didn't think zaiden would mock him for that. anyway, when he heard this 'vile, despicable, and not good' representation of his hero he went ballistic. he's refusing to give ANY of his reads until LLD apologizes to RC and makes good restitution on the defamation of his holy image. well flopz has shared one read, but it's more about someone's character/personality/terribleness than it is about their alignment and it was a really toxic post (even be Flopz's standards...' so i'm not going to post it for the sake of not being a terrible person

Almost50 can talk to Gamma Emerald to see where I am coming from here, if Gamma remembers.

We're not reading each other's games and we certainly aren't even talking in the team PT (or DC channel). I do harbour some suspicions of LLD (which I could buy independently), but you are now my biggest concern (I think you're the Scum team leader). I mist suspect Hopkirk & Oka Poka though.

My preliminary solve would be: Hopkirk, Winter Flakes, mastina, OkaPoka (not in any particular order)

Thank you for listening, Now I go back to doing my own thing.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually don't hate this. I won't get to scumreading mastina for a while yet, though. I think I have a method of reading her later, or at least it worked once.

Also, the more A50 posts the more I think he's town, and since that read is inconvenient for scum as they would very much like him to be one of their miselims, I plan to sit on it for a bit.

-town if A50 is town. feels weirdly pockety

[Ythan]

he's refusing to give ANY of his reads until LLD apologizes to RC and makes good restitution on the defamation of his holy image.

Yeah that totally makes sense.

[Hopkirk]

don't think flakes is necessarily town but he's being a lot bolder this game which is... something?

hey why ducky over anyone minus mastina in the a50 solve

i haven't liked his posts. i guess like, when i say "i don't hate this solve" i half mean "i expected a50 to gun for people i expressly disagree with gunning for" -
winter is a person of interest, he is playing better than last game where i saw him as a necessary miselim on my path to victory and he was just showing up to post terse nothings and i don't entirely know what to make of that yet.

hopkirk and you are both less fun this game

. i want to give you time because, well, i like you and am hoping you'll be town and we can play together.
basically i guess you could say that whole list was scumleans for me right now but i'd rather vote someone who actually has votes on them?
i know this post was meandering and probably self contradictory.

that said ducky being not here for a few days was something i probably should have let stop me from voting him right now since it's not going to do much good.

ooh look, we've found someone who can't tell when i'm using subtle humor. want me to explain all the jokes you might have missed?
i find 'hopkirk isn't being funny' worse than i do 'hopkirk is scummy' by a long shot. i'm going to toxic 1v1 you so hard that the level of toxicity unleashed would bankrupt BP

@LLD my team thinks you might just be scum shitpushing me, can you engage with me a bit as to what you don't like about my posts?

No. Your team can stuff it and you can eat rope.

now that's what i call good faith scumhunting

It is. You're scum. Why do I need to convince you or your team of anything? Why should I take the time to have a long protracted nonsense conversation where you get to gum up the thread with minutia about how definitely I'm misunderstanding you and you're so town.

You are always going to say you're town.

I think you're scum and I'm not going to change that opinion by arguing it with you. If you're so town, prove it by actually doing something townie.

this feels like exactly how i remember town-LLD wrong-pushing me though. i'm assuming you're like that independent of alignment?

[DrippingGoofball]

he's refusing to give ANY of his reads until LLD apologizes to RC and makes good restitution on the defamation of his holy image.

Yeah that totally makes sense.

This game is a joy.

[Hopkirk]

This isn't a great answer. I know you're helping me apply pressure but you're mixed, so you're entertaining new targets.

I'm saying your target selection is quesitonable and I'm curious where it is coming from.

I am having a very hard time getting reads in this game. Total, I have about six I feel somewhere close to good about.

I am trying to slowly expand that slot by slot. A50 and Winter Flakes have been more present (or at least more present when I am also in the thread) than either AGar or Ythan and I'm more interested in getting reads on people I can actually interact with. Although, as an aside, I don't think I'm scum reading A50 anymore.

is six reads bad at this point? i don't have many more since my poe is very fluid

ceph's recent posts are +town and Hercule's recent posts are +scum

can you sell me town ceph

I do think that Ceph's empty vote on the worst is a bit sus considering the worst is AFK for three days and we won't be getting any reactions, what is the purpose

why?

does anyone reading this find this behavior to be towny from LLD? Open question to the table

this type of appeal to the crowd shit is not towny, hercule

I feel like you could be literally doing anything else in this game besides trying to appear the good-faith half of the LLD vs. hercule 1v1 and instead you're trying to do something that I think you should *know* is unproductive

Like you trying to engage LLD here doesn't feel like you actually want to solve her, it feels like you want to show yourself off as towny

well I am trying to crowdsource metareads on LLD because the one member of my team who has meta on her has feelings about it but doesn't want me to express them or even say their name because of "bad blood"

that really didn't sound like you were asking for a metaread. it sounded like you were asking 'do people townread her' since you didn't mention meta anywhere. i don't like this line of interaction/the explination about a teammate's meta read on her afterward doesn't feels kind of overexplainy

okay but the way you phrased that whole post sounds like you're trying to set up a dichotomy of "I'm the good-faith player here just trying to understand you LLD and you are the bad-faith player"

like it's very p e r f o r m a t i v e and "does anyone reading this find this behavior to be towny from LLD" is a direct appeal to the crowd that feels more like you're looking for a specific answer than actually trying to get a meta read from anyone

LLD's entire style is bad faith

[Almost50]

-town if A50 is town. feels weirdly pockety

LOL @ at idea Ceph would choose to pocket ne of all.

[Cephrir]

so i had Flopz right here on voice chat. he'd taken a quick literal three minutes to read the entire thread and he got even further than i had. he was going to post his reads... going to... then he read this post. do you know how much of a RadiantCowbells fan Flopz is? he constantly brings up in irl conversations in real life that RC is basically his idol. he says that he would have printed out pictures of RC's avatar to put as posters on his wall if he didn't think zaiden would mock him for that. anyway, when he heard this 'vile, despicable, and not good' representation of his hero he went ballistic. he's refusing to give ANY of his reads until LLD apologizes to RC and makes good restitution on the defamation of his holy image. well flopz has shared one read, but it's more about someone's character/personality/terribleness than it is about their alignment and it was a really toxic post (even be Flopz's standards...' so i'm not going to post it for the sake of not being a terrible person

you should probably keep this out of the game unless your goal is toxicity

[Cephrir]

i find 'hopkirk isn't being funny' worse than i do 'hopkirk is scummy' by a long shot.

that's pretty stupid, since you apparently think i'm just not getting the joke, but i guess you're so couched in irony that anything i try to interact with you on could turn out to have been an ironic joke all along