Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[PenguinPower]

That’s like a D2/3 thing to consider tbh.

[PenguinPower]

At the earliest

[Bridgeburners]

That’s like a D2/3 thing to consider tbh.

This is why I always pocket you first <3

Skitter is taking over for a bit

[implosion]

isis how would you respond if i told you that i give out reads like candy in the first few pages in like, half my games.

[Isis]

there's two alignments, so you're scum in half your games. those are the ones with the halloween reads

let's be mathies together

[Infinity 324]

the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there

@isis

[implosion]

how would you respond if i lied and said i haven't drawn scum in six years

[ben dover123]

I'm probably not going to be as solve-y as I have been in my last couple of games given that I want to take this game slow and get good reads/analysis over time. In my usual proactive style 1. I get burned out after the game and 2. my analysis isn't too great when I'm being overly proactive. So I'm planning to fix that here and try getting more accurate reads and raise my standards for giving out reads.

Don't really like this as a response to Datisi's probing. Feels like kind of a weasely way to get out of being caught- "yeah, I'm not playing to my town meta, but it's totally intentional".

It also *kind of* sidesteps the point, you can be solve-y without necessarily handing out free reads early.

Usually people accuse me of lacking proactivity and being solve-y so I provided reason to why I am like so this game. It's very understandable that he has such a concern given that there is a pretty stark contrast to this version of my playstyle and my usual dose of over-proactiveness.

Honestly I thought being solve-y was all about sorting people and getting reads on everyone. Also at the time I hadn't found too much AI stuff to latch onto but it seems like discussion is finally picking up now.

I'm not sure about Isis' analysis for implo being scum, it seems a little bit of a stretch to me.

how is that a townslip? doesn't this setup only have a godfather a quarter of the time or something?

No, take a look at the setup page: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=JK9%2B%2B

Godfather is only in the C9++ version of the setup.

I also think there is a pretty solid chance that bridgeburners are scum but that is very definitely something to litigate later.

Can you expand on this read for me? I can't grasp the "bridgeburners being scum" take yet.

[implosion]

Can you expand on this read for me? I can't grasp the "bridgeburners being scum" take yet.

I mean just like, I don't

actually

know menalque's meta but i'm like 90% sure he's not outside of his scum range. So there's no reason to write them off as town, though there's no reason to run them up rn.

I do think there's probably an ever-so-slightly above random chance that all of the openwolfing comments from menalque actually do come from scum, but not enough so to matter.

[Scipio1]

Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people
Don’t try to use slips as either alignment to sort people

You say this and yet you're trying to get me hanged for my supposed 'slip.'

[Bridgeburners]

do y'all want the spamposting version, or nice long wall version of catching up?

~ skitter

[Isis]

the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there

@isis

if that post doesn't read towny to you I feel like you have a PT with some other players you could ask about it

it's very analytical

[Isis]

how would you respond if i lied and said i haven't drawn scum in six years

i would respond by bragging about beating scum!you a year or two ago
obvi

[PenguinPower]

do y'all want the spamposting version, or nice long wall version of catching up?

~ skitter

Spamposty pls

[Infinity 324]

the caps lock part is what I was wondering about? Why is implo towny there

@isis

if that post doesn't read towny to you I feel like you have a PT with some other players you could ask about it

it's very analytical

Really don't think it's outside of an average scumrange but ok

@skitter wallposty!

[Bridgeburners]

eh your'e getting a very abbreviated wall of assorted thoguths that i will probably elaborate upon request, as i'm already halfway thru

[PenguinPower]

commences zoning out

[Scipio1]

Usually people accuse me of lacking proactivity and being solve-y so I provided reason to why I am like so this game. It's very understandable that he has such a concern given that there is a pretty stark contrast to this version of my playstyle and my usual dose of over-proactiveness.

ew

[Bridgeburners]

intro thought: if skitter and mena are scum they finally get to play scum together.

<3

~
assorted thoughts as i read through:

-> p1 dats, scipio, penguin is a bit townie
-> 57 i think is townie for infinity here
-> maybe also gypyx, amybe also aaron
-> i feel like i should have thoughts on implo's 105 and 109, but i do not
-> mena is hilarious
-> ben's 162 feels townie to me, and i just have good vibes all around on him

skitter didn't tell the mod right away about her V/LA in Mini 2113 as town, but did so in Newbie 1951 as scum and did so in Silent Star 3 as scum. I'm sure further citations will dilute this pattern but even with a weak pattern, it feels significant when this is a game where she's in a hydra and she knows it matters less. It's also somewhat less town-hydra-y to opt for shouting that out to the mod right away versus consulting with Menalque to ascertain how necessary it is or isn't, since as town it's a shared responsibility to solve the game and as scum the posting pattern is more of a visible lifestyle or that's a bad metaphor I was trying to think of a better one.

isis :(
this is not a good take

~

ok i'm caught up ama
i have many many many townreads

isis is my only scumread
idk where we're voting but

VOTE: isis

[PenguinPower]

Will

you

write me a haiku if I vote Isis?

[Isis]

I will write you a sonnet if you vote skitter

I don't think she scumreads me

[PenguinPower]

But, I like haiku and I’ve been pocketed.

[Isis]

Oh I can do a haiku also

you probably actually prefer those over sonnets don't you

pedit: getting pocketed is ok, I think you are pretty towny this game but I don't want to treat you as out of your scumrange or what have you

[Bridgeburners]

Will

you

write me a haiku if I vote Isis?

only if u will accept very bad ones

I will write you a sonnet if you vote skitter

I don't think she scumreads me

i think you are scum and this is very sad
idk why you decided to pick this fight tho

~ skitter

[Infinity 324]

>I have too many TRs
>Isis and skitter are SRing each other
>gypyx is also in the game

Something seems familiar