Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[ben dover123]

Uh, no it isn't. The more time we have to discuss the better. We always want to have maximum info before a hang, especially D1, and people these days have forgotten about this train of thought.

no

Uh, no it isn't. The more time we have to discuss the better.

What if I have actual empirical proof that this is untrue?

-QB

Is ms meta quickhammers or something?

Pedit:

I can't say that scum is on this wagon but it feels way too smooth with these 3 consecutive votes here

Why are you more concerned about the latter end?

-QB

Because it basically implicates that most people are leaning towards me!scum and they want my elimination quickly.

[Datisi]

he played for a couple of days in a game that i was modding recently.

[Infinity 324]

Also @skitter do you have SRs/scumleans outside of isis?

[Datisi]

Is ms meta quickhammers or something?

long days breed town apathy. nobody is saying we gotta be quickhammering.

[ben dover123]

he played for a couple of days in a game that i was modding recently.

Mini Normal 2187 specifically.

[Datisi]

@ben, i think he was asking and i'm curious too, why are you apparently worried about the latter end of the wagon but not the former?

[ben dover123]

Hm, I thought I explained why I didn't accuse my wagon being scum but take 2:

A accusation like "my wagon has scum" usually is baseless and I'm not really certain that scum is on my wagon yet because I have yet to know why people jumped on my wagon which could be telling if there is scum or not. Also, if I am wrong then town will be looking in the completely wrong direction so at the very least I want to have some backing if I'm going to accuse my wagon of having scum.

[ben dover123]

So yeah, I'm not very focused on scum being on my wagon right now because I have 0 evidence for such a accusation, but I do want to know why people jumped on my wagon so quickly and why they want a speedy elimination on me.

[Bridgeburners]

fwiw i think ben is fairly townie

~ skitter

[Bridgeburners]

also skitt tldr on me and Infinity reads would be grand

infinity feels like he's solving, and his takes are well-timed and i like them

your interaction/read on ico feels townie to me

~ skitteR

[Isis]

Implo is tttbt

[Isis]

I found some of bendover's earlier stuff scummy but like his last few posts.
. Lots of people seem pretty town this game. Scipio a lot.

[Infinity 324]

Also @skitter do you have SRs/scumleans outside of isis?

@skitt

Isis is 435 an actual SR on implo

[Bridgeburners]

sorry >.>

i saw that, was gonna answer it, and promptly got distracted and didn't

and no, i don't really. i townread a whole host of people but don't have too many scumreads rn.
mena has a few more than i do, but i don't necessarily agree with them (ex: ben)

~ skitter

[notscience]

I don’t have any reason to see why that doesn’t come from scum!isis but feel free to enlighten me.

+I’m pocketed.

I think it kinda boils down to what skitter said, BoP of her scumgame? I understand if it's not reason enough to sway you and I'm pretty sure I have clarified a ton of times I'm not *super* confident in it, and wouldn't stand in the way of any proceedings regarding this.

I just think left field stuff typically tends to come from town more at a base level. You don't have to agree, but it's something I use when figuring things out.

I think 327 to 328 is a weird jump. I don't think it's scum but its weird.

sure, they're tricky, but they're not *impossible*. if he knows that's what you're looking at, he could play to that angle?

also what about mena's posting is a solid townread to you?

I mean, he could, and I could have just given him a benchmark on beating me. But I think it's a tad premature to be concerned about?

Re: Mena- I like the shitposting. Granted I have no experience with scum mena, but so far nothing he's posted has bothered me, he feels loose. Like yeah I suppose scum could be loose or shitpost too but like... I just wanna believe, ya know? Call it a soul read, call it whatever. Even though I disagree with his push on Isis I feel like Mena and I dont see eye to eye that often anyways?

327 is literally the most ai post that slot has made so far
also it's town!indicative

I liked this post too! But I felt like the post following it made me feel weird about it. "Hey this person got good as scum!" "This person is town!"

I suppose they arent mutually exclusive statements it just felt off when I read it.

Ok, but the more occam's razor-y explanation is that town had a weird thought than scum did something intentionally bad to get a TR

QFT, I like this post from infinity.

notsci

hi

why am i here

hello guess who's suffering from insomnia

tbh this now just feels like a dogpile with a wagon this quick. I can't say that scum is on this wagon but it feels way too smooth with these 3 consecutive votes here.

is this all? like, none of the votes ping you anywhere? not questioning anyone? just "oh idk if scum here but quick wagon"?

I feel like you post things that I 100% see then you post this and im like... huh? because I really liked that line from ben and feel like the nonchalance is townie.

Caught up. ben's posting on this page (18) is townie as fuck, I won't voting that. Infinity seems to be melding a bit with me particularly wrt isis so I'm cool having that as town. I'm trying to figure out how I feel on datisi, bc I kinda suck at reading them.

1/10

[PenguinPower]

Implo is tttbt

Is tttbt town?

[Bridgeburners]

my reads are something like:

Very Town: your truly - the towniest town to ever town, shining beacon of towniness, etc
Town: infinity, scipio, penguin
Nulltown: seCret hYdra, ben dover123, aaronfrost, dats
null/no idea: not mafia, implosion, schiavetto
scummy: isis

which is obviously problematic, but there you go

notsci i almost want to create a new tier for, between null and nulltown. g2h i'd put him in nulltown but he feels like he should be lower, yet somehow higher than null

~ skitter

[Bridgeburners]

ya i'm gonna take the vote off of ben now, mena wanted it but i think his reaction has been townie

VOTE: isis

~ skitter

[AaronFrost]

Idk, just don't wanna accidentally quickhammer this early.

https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c49_mafia

from my experience this doesn't usually happen, an i don't think it would happen with this player list

[AaronFrost]

I mean I’m kind of fucking around but also dragging the day out is pointless

I think we should be aiming to get a claim out of someone within the next 3-4 days and to elim in the next 5-6

-QB

this is super true by the way. the beautiful thing about deadlines is that you can use as much or as little of it as you want.

i think 7-10 days is plenty time to discuss things and figure out an elim target, any longer usually leads to town apathy.

[notscience]

Notmaf who’s scum?

@skitter-I’ll take it. I think I mentioned I’m trying to play things out from a more null space anyways. What am I missing re:scipio?

[AaronFrost]

fwiw i think ben is fairly townie

~ skitter

i find it interesting that both heads of this hydra disagree on the ben read, but i'm not sure what it means atm

[notscience]

Why? I don’t mind it

[Bridgeburners]

Notmaf who’s scum?

@skitter-I’ll take it. I think I mentioned I’m trying to play things out from a more null space anyways. What am I missing re:scipio?

Fwiw i don't actually know what ur scumgame looks like and for all i know this is it

Im still leaning town tho

R.e scipio - feels like newish town to me, very earnest. He keeps saying goos things with good timing

I can pull up a couple of posts in particular that i liked, but let me make a new post, i just switched to my phone

~ skitter

[AaronFrost]

So yeah, I'm not very focused on scum being on my wagon right now because I have 0 evidence for such a accusation, but I do want to know why people jumped on my wagon so quickly and why they want a speedy elimination on me.

if you are town though then figuring out if there's scum on your wagon should be important yeah?

like i think a lot of people didn't like your early game posting, but honestly i think your reaction to the wagon is sorta townish