Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[ben dover123]

So yeah, I'm not very focused on scum being on my wagon right now because I have 0 evidence for such a accusation, but I do want to know why people jumped on my wagon so quickly and why they want a speedy elimination on me.

if you are town though then figuring out if there's scum on your wagon should be important yeah?

Yeah, of course, but I haven't really found any proof of such.

[AaronFrost]

@ben

do you have any scumreads at the moment?

[Bridgeburners]

Spoiler:

Oh wait godfather isn’t even a thing in this setup, I was thinking of c9+++

Derpclear me now pls

The derpclear bit i find unlikely to come from scum

i have too little, tell me more

You feel more relaxed than I'd expect scum!you to be

Notsci pointed out what I was thinking (whether gypyx's energy is towny)

Gypyx is energetic and therefore towny

Scipio had a towny reaction to townslipping

Ben dover is new so being relaxed is a good sign

Implo probably has a good reason to TR penguin

Disagree with almost all of these but I think Infinity is likely town for this.

I liked infinity's takes too so i *really* like that scipio is townreading his takes despite disagreeing with them, feels like a townie approach to me

:thonk:

Is that how things work on this site?

This reaction to the quickhammer felt townie to me

Ok these are all kinda small things but i liked them

~ skitter

[PenguinPower]

What’s your preferred non-haiku wagon there AFF?

[PenguinPower]

Woah - time warp

[ben dover123]

@ben

do you have any scumreads at the moment?

No, mostly 2 light TR's on Infinity and Datisi, Scipio and Penguin giving me slight townvibes, and Isis may be just town for how bad the attack on Bridge was. The Isis read is definitely the one I don't have much trust in because tstbs is a very shaky subject with many pitfalls but the read in itself feels right to me. Other than that, everyone is mostly null to some degree.

[AaronFrost]

ben dover123 (3) - Datisi, implosion, Scipio1, Infinity, Bridgeburners, PenguinPower

Scipio unvoted after Bridge's vote

Making note of this for later just in case it becomes relevant

[AaronFrost]

What’s your preferred non-haiku wagon there AFF?

Isis maybe? I don't necessarily think isis is scum but i'd be interested to see what is yielded from a wagon there

i wasn't really opposed to the ben wagon either but his reaction to it was pretty townie imo so i don't really want to vote there right now.

[AaronFrost]

might as well vote on it i guess

VOTE: Isis

[AaronFrost]

the fact that i don't have any real scumreads at the moment makes me wonder if there's scum in the low posters/inactives (schiavetto, not mafia, notsci although maybe less on notsci since they explicitly said they were gonna limit their posting)

[notscience]

@skitter I feel like I forgot 81 happened. I can see it now.

I’m curious about his read on me still but I’m more leaning green now.

Ninja-
A lot of my games lately have been “clear the bottom” and it’s been pretty effective.

I think this is 4/10

[ben dover123]

Also it seems like I still haven't received a answer for the 2 quick votes by QB and Penguin, were those because of my early game like AFF says?

[Bridgeburners]

I'm a little curious to see how we're all kinda aligning to similar readslists and consensus, and that there isnt really much divisiveness on the poe

Sometimes that just means all scum are in the poe but sometimes that means one of the collective townreads is wrong. I'm not sure which way it is yet, more making an observation rn

~ skitter

[PenguinPower]

Also it seems like I still haven't received a answer for the 2 quick votes by QB and Penguin, were those because of my early game like AFF says?

Wait...what’s your question to me?

[ben dover123]

Also it seems like I still haven't received a answer for the 2 quick votes by QB and Penguin, were those because of my early game like AFF says?

Wait...what’s your question to me?

Why did you vote me to put me at E-2?

[Isis]

Implo is tttbt

Is tttbt town?

Yeah I like him for town I think he's a bit out of his range now.

[PenguinPower]

Also it seems like I still haven't received a answer for the 2 quick votes by QB and Penguin, were those because of my early game like AFF says?

Wait...what’s your question to me?

Why did you vote me to put me at E-2?

I like wagons. You were a good one.

[ben dover123]

Also it seems like I still haven't received a answer for the 2 quick votes by QB and Penguin, were those because of my early game like AFF says?

Wait...what’s your question to me?

Why did you vote me to put me at E-2?

I like wagons. You were a good one.

Well that's straightforward.

Also @QB that question applies to you too.

Going to get some sleep now, gn.

[seCret hYdra]

i'm scumleaning gypyx but townleaning ico, help

recent gypyx posts feel like arguing for the sake of arguing

pedit: oh hello
what's changed your mind about the hydra?

you seem to think you have our heads identities

i assure you, you don't

if you are scumleaning one head, why is that? What did the other head do to make you townread that one? We are both voting for Isis, so what is different?

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

Why are people TR'ing Penguin? I don't see it.

you aren't fluid in penguin, that's ok

he's prob town yeah

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

In answer to both: I liked Ico’s entrance a lot and I’m TRing that

hahahahha talking about ico again

-seCret

[seCret hYdra]

i assure you this is a very secret hydra

[seCret hYdra]

When I read "NM's E-1" a second time I realized there was a second interpretation that wasn't the way I interpreted it the first time

"The E-1 that NM can hammer on" vs "E-2, which should be treated as E-1 with NM in the game"

[seCret hYdra]

infinity/scipio/datisi/pp/bridgeburners can be the townblock for today (ourselves included)

-seCret

[Datisi]

re notsci's 439:

i'm not necessarily concerned about scum!gypyx finding an avenue to fool town!notsci, i'm moreso thinking about whether notsci calling that out in the first place is indicative of alignment, and in which way, you feel?

i agree the shift from 327 to 328 looks a certain ~weird~, but /shrug, i think it's genuine. at least, feels more genuine than the entirety of the last game.

why do you like that line? like when i read it last night, i thought it was uncaring, but in a scummy way. like scum who's getting voted by town, feels they have to like, start making reads to get out of trouble, and that town!them *would* find the wagon scummy, but can't actually find it scummy bc informed pov, so they throw out a weak "there might be scum on my wagon" throwaway line.

i'd say probably the best way to read me is direct/real-time interaction, but /shrug. how *do* you feel about datisi?

oh, you're still reading the hYdra as town, no? your vote's still on them.