Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[Scipio1]

What are people's opinion's on AaronFrost?

[Scipio1]

@notsci, do you have any SR's rn? Also why did you vote Schiavetto?

[Scipio1]

What’s your preferred non-haiku wagon there AFF?

Isis maybe? I don't necessarily think isis is scum but i'd be interested to see what is yielded from a wagon there

i wasn't really opposed to the ben wagon either but his reaction to it was pretty townie imo so i don't really want to vote there right now.

might as well vote on it i guess

VOTE: Isis

This is what struck out as weird to me about AF btw. Feels more like an obligation than proactiveness.

[Scipio1]

notsci's recent posts are pretty townie actually.

[notscience]

Not really. I’m typically a PoE player though. Schiavetto is someone I want to see more out of. I like to try and get bearings on those low posters so I know if I’m on track. I’ve already reached out to notmaf (who ignored me ) but datisi was right that it is a waste to have my vote sitting on a townread

I didn’t like the lead wagons soooo I’m voting to start a new one.

I wouldn’t be totally upset to vote Aaron. Why should I?

Ninja-
What do you like about them?

3/10

[implosion]

i have general mild good vibes from aaron with like two specific things that i like a little bit more (366 which I mentioned, also a bit on 167/266)

[Datisi]

I think you are adding a connotation from tunneling than anything. I don't think he doesn't care he just doesnt want to stamp his feet and make us look one place when hes not confident it's the right place to look. I think calling a wagon scumpushed is such an easy thing to do as either side of an alignment and him doing the more difficult thing in being apprehensive and nonchalant gave me good vibes.

If you put a gun to my head I'd say you were town. But I said you were town in haunted village too. I don't think I've got a good grasp on how far you've come since smuggler's port.

And I offered my vote for a limerick and noone has jumped on it. Looking at the recent votecount, I don't hate who is on the Isis wagon but I still think she's town and don't want to vote there. I'm townreading ben. I could vote notmaf for being notmaf but I did that in masons and monks and was wrong and actually want to feel solid about pushing something.

mmmm.

VOTE: Schiavetto

i started typing out a reply how i don't think he's doing the more difficult thing by appearing ~nonchalant~ because finding scumreads as scum and having them appear genuine can be a more difficult thing than saying "i dunno" but having it typed out it felt like tunneling garbage. i should probably reread that interaction, preferably at a time that isn't 2am.

i don't want to be reminded of that game

i was gonna ask why are you voting for schiavetto if you want to feel solid about pushing something (or rather why do you feel solid about pushing schiavetto) but your recent post pretty much answers it so

-From what I can tell, Gypyx head is being townread for energy-levels/engagement mostly? What's the point of comparison for that, and what would you call "energetic" for them? Volume, tone, etc.? Doesn't feel like an (immediately) useful indicator to me w/o some frame of reference

Ask notsci/datisi, I think gypyx tends to be less engaged in terms of both activity and tone as scum (iow, it's a meta read)

the only useful game for metareading gypyx for me is a game he was scum in (since the games i am scum aren't useful to me meta-wise bc informed perspective) and he had like, a very gutscummy tone. he doesn't have it this game, though that was a while ago. though though i'm townreading the other head so whatever.

STOP

i'd still like to know what this was/is about.

[ben dover123]

What are people's opinion's on AaronFrost?

Honestly he hasn't done anything of notice and some of what he has done seems a bit hedgy imo (Post #100, Post #293) and then yeah he jumped onto Isis' wagon just as it was gaining traction again. Some good takes in his ISO are Post #84 and Post #366. Also I saw a bunch of places where he repeated what others said but I don't know exactly what that says about him yet (Post #271, Post #299, Post #444).

Overall he's still rather null and I could compromise on voting him now but I want to let my reads sit a bit more given that I have no SR's.

[Schiavetto]

VOTE: AaronFrost
Typing.

[snip]

Do better. Be better.

[implosion]

I'm not really enamored with a ben vote anymore. Don't really want to vote schiavetto atm. His catchup post is... fine, I guess? I kind of like the take on bridgeburners as slightly coming from town. It has some nuance to it.

[notscience]

Who should we be voting then, implosion?

4/10

[Bridgeburners]

Hereby i present Random Assorted Thoughts on Recent Postings:

- i don't particularly like dats' take in 483 and 486

- i'm kinda liking notsci rn

- mena doesn't really like schiavetto's entrance but i'm kinda meh on it. don't love the timing of his aaron read

- isis i hope you're ok <3

- i'm not sure i, like, get the aaron thing that's picking up steam rn

~ skitter

[implosion]

- i'm kinda liking notsci rn

i feel this.

Who should we be voting then, implosion?

great question; as i said, we should all sheep not_mafia.

[implosion]

which is to say, idk because a vote on not_mafia feels pointless.

VOTE: isis

[ben dover123]

Really not liking the Isis wagon cause I'm not seeing why people are suddenly gaining on her. Nothing seems really scummy from her imo and I want some more explanation from the Isis voters.

[implosion]

There's like, enough of a corpus of people that I feel okay about that isis is actually not a bad wagon. I went into this game thinking that I would try to avoid handing out townreads for bad reasons and I think i'm sort of failing that? but there's a big tier of people that I feel somewhat-okay on but wouldn't really call town yet. Aaron, notsci, Schiavetto.

[implosion]

I don't really have much impetus to push the wagon but I feel like my vote is better used there than anywhere else atm.

[implosion]

Where I'm at right now roughly is

Scipio, Penguin, Datisi

Infinity

Aaron, notsic, Schiavetto

ben dover

Secret Hydra, N_M, Isis, Bridgeburners


Secret hydra I notably haven't really actually invested any energy to try to read yet

[Bridgeburners]

implo would you mind reminding me why you're scumreading us again?
also why are you voting isis?

~ skitter

[ben dover123]

sEcret hYdra has only 1 notable thing, that's the progression from 327 (saying Datisi's scumrange has exploded) to 328 (TR'ing Datisi early) which is weird but I think it's the towny weird? Other than that nothing really is telling from them imo.

bridge is going to be a tough slot to read given that mena and skit are starting to disagree on a bunch of things. Hydras >.>

I'm liking Scipio more and more as time passes. Still wary of them given that I TR'ed them as scum in a newbie game not so long ago but so far he looks fine.

[implosion]

I just said why I'm voting isis.

The bottom tier isn't really scumreads, it's not-yet-townreads, I don't really have any good reasons to scumread anyone atm.

[implosion]

Is Datisi like, a notably good scum player? Bc it seems like there's a decent amount of latent skepticism of him but I feel like he's been transparently town a couple times.

[Infinity 324]

Not particularly, I agree he's transparently town here

[notscience]

I’ve played with scum datisi twice. Once as a scum buddy and once as town. There was a definite improvement and he had me snowed pretty solid when I drew town. That in conjunction with what ico has said about datisi having a massive scum growth lately isn’t helping my paranoia. But I’m not sure it’s not just me being me.

5/10

[PenguinPower]

Where I'm at right now roughly is

Scipio, Penguin, Datisi

Infinity

Aaron, notsic, Schiavetto

ben dover

Secret Hydra, N_M, Isis, Bridgeburners


Secret hydra I notably haven't really actually invested any energy to try to read yet

Why do you have my pocketer so low? BB should be higher imo. Don’t actually disagree strongly with much else.