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[Marky Mark]

I think Flea's point ref uncrowned might have some teeth - they went from post #1 being a naked vote to post #2 being a massive extended argument about why I am Scummy McScumface. Doesn't seem like a massively logical progression in terms of posting style

[Marky Mark]

I think Flea's point ref uncrowned might have some teeth - they went from post #1 being a naked vote to post #2 being a massive extended argument about why I am Scummy McScumface. Doesn't seem like a massively logical progression in terms of posting style

[Marky Mark]

There are plenty of better ways I could've entered this thread that wouldn't have made me the talking point/vote for multiple people.

I didn't give this tons of thought earlier, but the self-justification is mildly ++SR. It's pretty easy to string an argument together along the lines of "scum!me would have done XYZ instead"

[Marky Mark]

@Fidgit - cheers for the extended post. I kinda get where you are coming from, although I think that trying to help the game progress is still nullish at worst. There is a good reason for my first couple of posts, and if you think hard enough about it you can probably work it out for yourself. The rest, I think we've gone over and I kinda disagree with your logic, but I (at least somewhat) believe that you believe it.

I think it's a questionable choice of Jake and chk to go after the worst - I'm not convinced that 2 votes mid-d1 is going to carry much impetus. NAI imo, but I'd like to understand why them over, say, another inactive slot like Turin

I'll drop VAX a cheeky

FOS

too - lots of posts, but fairly thin on any scrutiny/analysis/reads. Could be posting style tbf, but feels very different to the Bears mini where we played together.

[Not Known 15]

There are plenty of better ways I could've entered this thread that wouldn't have made me the talking point/vote for multiple people.

I didn't give this tons of thought earlier, but the self-justification is mildly ++SR. It's pretty easy to string an argument together along the lines of "scum!me would have done XYZ instead"

Why just mildly...?
Marky says "better ways", seems to indicate a scum mindset.
VOTE: Marky

[Marky Mark]

Mildly, because it is scummy enough to point out, but not so scummy as to be a smoking gun. I want to be clear in my intentions here.

You are hard-misrepping me over "better ways" - as I've actually said in my post its the wider concept of a player trying to rationalize why scum!them would not act as they have just done. Do you disagree with my logic here?

[Uncrowned]

I didn't give this tons of thought earlier, but the self-justification is mildly ++SR. It's pretty easy to string an argument together along the lines of "scum!me would have done XYZ instead"

Again, this is something that a townie can 100% do.

What is your Mafia experience like?

Are you going to give actual reasons for your SR or are you going to keep coming up with NAI stuff that you're conf!biasing into a bad read?

[Mistyx]

I didn't give this tons of thought earlier, but the self-justification is mildly ++SR. It's pretty easy to string an argument together along the lines of "scum!me would have done XYZ instead"

Again, this is something that a townie can 100% do.

What is your Mafia experience like?

Are you going to give actual reasons for your SR or are you going to keep coming up with NAI stuff that you're conf!biasing into a bad read?

do you have reads so far?

[Uncrowned]

I like Porkens and NotKnown

Mark is >rand scum atm but there's decent chance he's just clueless town

[Marky Mark]

I didn't give this tons of thought earlier, but the self-justification is mildly ++SR. It's pretty easy to string an argument together along the lines of "scum!me would have done XYZ instead"

Again, this is something that a townie can 100% do.

What is your Mafia experience like?

Are you going to give actual reasons for your SR or are you going to keep coming up with NAI stuff that you're conf!biasing into a bad read?

Yeah for sure, a townie can also play the "scum!me wouldn't do XYZ card", but overall scum have more reasons (in my experience) to play this card.

I've already made it very clear that I found this AI, but only to a limited extent, so please don't misrep me

I made an account on this site in 2014 and played ~2 games. I returned a few months ago and have played another ~4 games since.

I have given you fairly explicitly my reasons for an SR on you - I'm happy to chat through any or all of them but please dont misrep me by claiming that I haven't provided reasons for my SR.

[Marky Mark]

Mark is >rand scum atm but there's decent chance he's just clueless town

No need to be rude dude

If you're actually town here, work with me to help me see why my reasons for suspecting you (which I have clearly laid out) are mistaken. You are doing this to an extent, and I appreciate this.

Flailing at me and trying to misrep me by saying that I haven't explained my reasons for SRing you is not making me think that you're town here.

[Vaxkiller]

I like Porkens and NotKnown

Mark is >rand scum atm but there's decent chance he's just clueless town

I dont think uncrowned!scum makes this comment

[Vaxkiller]

I dont think hes flailing either.

[Vaxkiller]

VOTE: Marky Mark

cmon scum, hop on and bus.

[Marky Mark]

Not the first time you've voted me with minimal explanation Vax (unless your reason is that you think I'm wrong about uncrowned, which you have alluded to).

Why vote Porkens earlier in 163? I'm not sure you explained that one either

[Porkens]

I like Porkens and NotKnown

Mark is >rand scum atm but there's decent chance he's just clueless town

I dont think uncrowned!scum makes this comment

Could you go into more detail as to why?

[cassowary]

I didn't give this tons of thought earlier, but the self-justification is mildly ++SR. It's pretty easy to string an argument together along the lines of "scum!me would have done XYZ instead"

Again, this is something that a townie can 100% do.

What is your Mafia experience like?

Are you going to give actual reasons for your SR or are you going to keep coming up with NAI stuff that you're conf!biasing into a bad read?

This logic is weird. "Thing that both town and scum can do" doesn't mean "NAI". If it's more likely as scum than town, it should push people towards a scumread, and vice versa. There are very few things that

only

town or scum can '100% do'; if there were then mafia would be a lot easier, wouldn't it?

[chkflip]

VOTE: Uncrowned

I will bah bah eh-like a sheep.

[Gamma Emerald]

So this (and other versions of the Castle Crashers Necromancer theme) is the other of the two songs I've been tending to use during times where I want to get serious in a mafia game. I tend to use Mechanical Con-Damnation for mech-heavy setups and this one for mech-lite setups, or for situations where mechanical arguments are stronger or weaker in what I'm writing up in specific.
This definitely isn't my favorite cover of the Necromancer theme, but I chose this one here for a reason I'll get into in a bit.

Votecount 1.5

Uncrowned (6): Mistyx, Marky Mark, cassowary, Flea The Magician, Vaxkiller, chkflip
Marky Mark (4): Porkens, Uncrowned, Grendel, Not Known 15
Vaxkiller (1): Turin Turambar
the worst (1): Jake the Wolfie
Flea The Magician (1): Fidget

Not voting: the worst

Within 14 alive it takes 8 votes to yeet someone into the void.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-02-15 15:10:00), or whenever a yeet has been decided.

[cassowary]

Dang, L-2. Careful with that wagon, Eugene.

[Porkens]

I’m mild on the uncrowned wagon, not sure how it is at l-2 suddenly. I’ll go analyze the votes later.

[Grendel]

prod dodge

sorry my work schedule has been really screwing me over.

I should be back tomarrow after noon

[Gamma Emerald]

the worst has requested replacement.

[Uncrowned]

VOTE: Uncrowned

I will bah bah eh-like a sheep.

Hey guys, look. Someone sheeping a wagon.

Clear scum. Let's elim them.

[Marky Mark]

Morning all

The vote count is not quite right - Vax is voting me, ie Uncrowned and I are both on 5.

Jake has managed to post a decent amount without saying very much at all. Their vote is now also fairly moot as the slot is being replaced. @Jake - what are your thoughts on the leading wagons?

I am starting to TR Cassoway because I just feel like they are on a similar wavelength. 216 in particular summed up what I was thinking far more articulately than I was able to put across