Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

yep
skitter town
shockingly
my work here is done

During the night, chkflip was killed! He was...

Spoiler:

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

Welcome to Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic!



You are a

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

.

Miller: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia. Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante: On even-numbered nights, you may target a player that is not adjacent to you in the player list with a killing action.

Novice: You do not act on night 1.

Odd-Night Complex Vigilante: On odd nights, you may target a player with a killing action. This action will fail on vanilla roles (vanilla town, mafia goon).

Walkies: You can move up or down the player list by one slot at night. This will resolve based on your position in the player order at the start of the night phase.

Win:

You win when the mafia is dead or Hectic concedes by saying "Boon just might be the greatest town player of all time" in bold.

Game thread here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656

Confirm:

Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name

Miller

: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia.

Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Can you explain how you got a loyal result on Skitter when you would have gotten a disloyal on chk?

in what world is this for xtoxm to explain?

???

Because it’s not possible for him to have gotten a loyal result on her. So, then maybe your inverse theory is correct? Either way, Skittter’s claim doesn’t add up with this result. That much is obviously clear. But yes, I’d believe Xtoxm > Skitter here. Because I remember that she cleared my slot in MBoS, based off of anti associatives with scum!Mastina despite us hard defending her and trying to stop her flip.

[Flavor Leaf]

so why is that xtoxm's problem not skitter's

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

what does that have to with anything?

Because those 4 roles are not automatically town roles and could be scum and 3 of them have either been claimed or flipped.

We know chk was town and I believe unwnd is as well. So of the following 3/4 roles (because we have no evidence of a vengeful), we have one town flip - chk and I believe 1 town claim - unwnd and then you’re left with 2 miller claims and I think it’s unlikely both are the same alignment. Tweetie has been confirmed to be aesetic 3 times now iirc? but Skitter should not have been confirmed loyal.

Any Alignment

Miller, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

so why is that xtoxm's problem not skitter's

I am not even suggesting that, so stop fucking jumping on me, okay?

[Flavor Leaf]

you actively have questioned Xtoxm, this has nothing to do with xtoxm answering, just skitter

[Flavor Leaf]

and Krazy's 100% going to put Red Herrings in there, he just is

[Flavor Leaf]

and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

what if a scum miller gets seen as town, essentially a godfather

Ahhh yeah, that would definitely explain a lot.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

you actively have questioned Xtoxm, this has nothing to do with xtoxm answering, just skitter

Did you not read 6900?

I obviously believe Xtoxm > Skitter and it’s ridiculous for you to imply anything to the contrary.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills

How does a vig block kills?

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I swear FL if Skitter flips red here and you push me as her buddy I will fucking lose it on you!

[skitter30]

I do not have that paragraph/sentence in my role pm
To the best of my knowledge loyal and disloyal should act as they normally would on me

Its fine if u dont believe that tho, and vote me out, so long as u listen to my reada afterwards, and do not expect all millers to have that ability post flip

[Morning Tweet]

Wording suggests that that loyal/disloyal will work normally on me, cause it only mentions that i screw with cop results

We probably ignored this bit up til now cuz i know at least i already addressed it. totally missed that part of chkflips pm tho

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I do not have that paragraph/sentence in my role pm
To the best of my knowledge loyal and disloyal should act as they normally would on me

Its fine if u dont believe that tho, and vote me out, so long as u listen to my reada afterwards, and do not expect all millers to have that ability post flip

Miller

: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia.

Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

But you’re both millers? It specifically says this about chk’s being miller?

[Morning Tweet]

Don't have the loyal disloyal bit

Apparently Krazy had a reputation of red herrings about him, that would be my guess. Doesn't clear skitts but she is definitely not caught scum off of that particular bit

in fact the godfather stuff does seem a bit unlikely doesnt it

[Flavor Leaf]

and if he didn't, then mafia had a vigilante who's had blocked kills

How does a vig block kills?

rolestopper....

[Flavor Leaf]

that actually does check out a bit considering i have the same roles in games, but that are slightly different mutations of them

[Starcrossed]

so if Skitter is a miller, the loyal shouldn't have gone through.

I believe Skitter is an inverse of this type of thing now, and that she gets hit from loyal as scum

or xtox is a scum mailman

[Flavor Leaf]

that's also a possibility im considering.

we arent in a rush by any means.

[Flavor Leaf]

just take our time, talk it through

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Wording suggests that that loyal/disloyal will work normally on me, cause it only mentions that i screw with cop results

We probably ignored this bit up til now cuz i know at least i already addressed it. totally missed that part of chkflips pm tho

The only result anyone has gotten on you was aesetic and I specifically asked Krazy about that. Iow, aesetic trumps everything else, including miller. So any loyal/disloyal/alignment cop etc. will get a “no results” result on you.

[Flavor Leaf]

there's only one loyal/disloyal claim, and Chkflip's flip kinda implies that Xtoxm is likely town, and Xtoxm doesn't get results, for the last time....

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

there's only one loyal/disloyal claim, and Chkflip's flip kinda implies that Xtoxm is likely town, and Xtoxm doesn't get results, for the last time....

Yeah, Xtoxm has to be mech confitown based on that.

I just rechecked Fire flip and he was a flavour cop and based off of my role pm, I think every player in this game has another player’s avatar in their spoiler text.

[Flavor Leaf]

eh, scum could have a disloyal role, I guess, but that's tinfoil

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

During the night, chkflip was killed! He was...

Spoiler:

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

Welcome to Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic!



You are a

Miller Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante, Novice Complex Odd-Night Vigilante

.

Miller: Alignment cops will show you as aligned with the mafia. Loyal and Disloyal modifiers will act as though you are aligned with the mafia.

Even-Night Non-Adjacent Vigilante: On even-numbered nights, you may target a player that is not adjacent to you in the player list with a killing action.

Novice: You do not act on night 1.

Odd-Night Complex Vigilante: On odd nights, you may target a player with a killing action. This action will fail on vanilla roles (vanilla town, mafia goon).

Walkies: You can move up or down the player list by one slot at night. This will resolve based on your position in the player order at the start of the night phase.

Win:

You win when the mafia is dead or Hectic concedes by saying "Boon just might be the greatest town player of all time" in bold.

Game thread here: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=85656

Confirm:

Please confirm by responding with your alignment and role name

@mod, what was chk’s flavour?