Open 806: JK9++ (Game Over!)

[Bridgeburners]

xk

Pls no

-QB

[implosion]

a vote can be both; this was not.

[Schiavetto]

xk

Pls no

-QB

<3

a vote can be both; this was not.

I mean, I just think it's weird that in the posts directly following your vote on ben, you outright acknowledge that other players have had a strong impact on your reads this game--so why the backpedaling?

[implosion]

Other players have, but sechyd has not. My eyes have honestly slightly glazed over when I've tried to glean useful things from their posts.

[Bridgeburners]

We have discussed this at some length in our PT and we believe rather strongly that if there is a vig then they should shoot NM tonight, and if there isn’t, and we die, then it’s probably overall worth it to burn a policy elim on NM tomorrow

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

I think I want to come back to this:

VOTE: ben dover

Also I really think we should be trying to get a wagon going seriously at this point so we have time to discuss a claim if there is one

-QB

[Bridgeburners]

We think that if Ben is scum then datisi is very likely not scum, and that implo’s scum equity goes down

Given that these slots that we’re uncomfortable with are in something of a dichotomy with someone else that I don’t feel good about (and I think skitt is unsure but happy to add pressure here/potentially elim here) this seems optimal

-QB

[SirCakez]

notscience has requested replacement.

[PenguinPower]

hmmmm

[Isis]

Tell me not to kill Not_Mafia chestnut eater

[PenguinPower]

Boring elimination for d1 tbh

I can’t decide what you do with your nk though.

[Isis]

i haven't finished reading up

only skimmed

part of me want to go back back
and be old fashioned
and just yeet AF for posting IioA even one time in a mafia game
I know nobody will do it with me

[Isis]

your pedit post makes mine have a diff effect than i wanted

[Isis]

you know I will respect the input you make about our NK right?

[PenguinPower]

<3

[Isis]

This seems like a scumpost to me. The last line is level zero, extremely towny to post

i really don't get this

'this is an extremely townie thing to post and datisi knows that, therefore he is scum'

i'm not saying he's not capable of faking that, but it's at worst a 50/50 toss up coming from either allignment. I would understand you not giving townie points for it but calling it a fullblown scumpost?

Nope

endorsing my other head's vote on isis, and would absolutely vote this out of the game at EoD but my vote on Isis isn't going to improve reads at this point

VOTE: ben dover

-seCret

How the heck am I not a viable vote at this phase of the game? This reeks of knowing the alignment of my detractors better than I do.

[Isis]

Which fits a theory that maybe Datisi and Iconeum are just scum together

[Isis]

and like i'm not sure that that all adds up to scum-implo but i keep going hmmmmmm??????? and like i don't have happy-feel-good-vibes because i don't super get how you're approaching this game really

I guess this is fair because I still don't really feel like I have a good foothold. I'm kind of finding that I've forgotten how to play almost? Like I just am having a harder time than I remember having forming reads that I feel good about. I don't know if that's actually a function of this game being kind of impregnable, I think it's probably a combination of the game and me not having played in like a year. I'm finding myself annoyingly swayed by things, like I feel like I can't find a scumread where there's not some reason to townread them. And it's not

really

for lack of trying at this point either.

The only people I even really feel good on at this point are penguin and scipio and maybe infinity. I feel like I'm historically bad at reading hydras and N_M is absent and that's like a quarter of the game that I don't really have any good avenue to read.

I need to engage directly with people more. I think my gut still says Datisi is town; the way he's interacting with the game right now, his general manner strikes me that way. The way he's talking about himself and his thought processes and his meta while still trying to push the game forward e.g. by voting me. I also think I still feel good about schiavetto, and in looking through his posts i see he pointed out 401 from ben which is, actually really really bad. For reasons schiavetto pointed out and also because the last line screams "I want to call people on my wagon scum but that would look scummy". It seems like a line that I can envision scum typing out through a thought process like that.

i swear to god i'm not saying this bc of sechyd saying ben is scum on this page

I need to look more closely at the things that made me unvote him.

Also regarding Isis my gut is starting to just say that she's town and I don't like it because there are ~too many~ such people and I feel like it's probably the case that I as a player am likely to scumread Not_Mafia by PoE in every game that I play with him.

Why no reasons for your strongest townreads?

[Bridgeburners]

I guess this is fair because I still don't really feel like I have a good foothold. I'm kind of finding that I've forgotten how to play almost? Like I just am having a harder time than I remember having forming reads that I feel good about. I don't know if that's actually a function of this game being kind of impregnable, I think it's probably a combination of the game and me not having played in like a year. I'm finding myself annoyingly swayed by things, like I feel like I can't find a scumread where there's not some reason to townread them. And it's not really for lack of trying at this point either.

thanks implo, i appreciate you saying explaining this
i'm not sure how much it, like, particularly helped the 'HMMMMMM????????' vibes but i appreciate that you tried to explain

i know that this isn't a particularly helpful response to what you wrote but that's kinda how i felt upon reading it anyways

~

pedit: lol @isis ico is town

*the head trying to make you think it's Ico is town would be a better statement, and it's true

this is a secret hydra after all

-seCret

lol

~

Bridge
Isis
notsci

hmmm - why are we your strongest tr?

~

I think I want to come back to this:

VOTE: ben dover

Also I really think we should be trying to get a wagon going seriously at this point so we have time to discuss a claim if there is one

-QB

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~ skitter

[Isis]

I got to 831 and like it way too much

[Isis]

i would like it a lot less if it was earlier when ben dover votes were as fetch as neopets but coming back to it this way seems towny

[Isis]

that is going to become a new phrase of mine you can't stop me.

[Isis]

Could have sworn I posted something but I guess it was just a dream.

Why do I dream about this game?

Somnomancer crumb

[Isis]

We have discussed this at some length in our PT and we believe rather strongly that if there is a vig then they should shoot NM tonight, and if there isn’t, and we die, then it’s probably overall worth it to burn a policy elim on NM tomorrow

-QB

This prompted me to check the setup to see if you were being a baddie because scum protectives

finding 1: there is a scum protective

finding 2: wtf I should not have signed up for this game

[Isis]

if there is a vig the vig should adopt some type of mixed strategy