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[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't know if I can call Titus town, but if Titus is willing yo sheep and vote with me, she can have a townie card.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh yeh JJh probably town just impossible to work with so

Lol

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if Flanndor is scum im going to be so upset i have been nodding at his posts in general but on these last couple pages specifically they just strike the heart

If you agree with Dann this much

Would you vote Ythan right now

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@LLD on the thing with you/Mastina that you asked everyone to comment on

Mastina is literally saying, that when I say "if those 3 flip town" I am implying I think they are all not town.

Isn't Mastina basically saying 'if LLD's reads are wrong then the chance of her being scum go up'? I can see where Mastina is coming from based on that premise.
is this what you've got a problem with, or are you interpreting it different?
also Mastina am i interpreting you right here?

ah, isn't it great when you ask 'can everyone give their thoughts on this' and more than 1 person does. never happens for me. grrrr Agar

I wish I could throw this game and start day one again

I swear to fucking Christ...

fake

Yeah that is what Mastina is saying but she is also saying I said that about her dgb and xtoxm at that time.

Which is not what I said, or what was being said.

The argument they made was, literally:

"You town read DGB Xtoxm and Mastina. If those 3 are town and all think LLD is scum, does it increase odds of LLD scum"

Withiut any flips

[AGar]

Hopkirk is still scum.

But.

I'm so tired. And I'm not townreading Ythan.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ythan

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I am also trying the "LLD cares about this game" thing one more time.

So let's see if I can make shit happen again.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hopkirk is still scum.

But.

I'm so tired. And I'm not townreading Ythan.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ythan

I am not ignoring this or you.

I am saying it is time to end vanity wagons and consolidate for the sake of pressure and new content.

You can also still sell me on hopkirk now too, for later. Tell me now that I am here and give a shit

[innocentvillager]

if Flanndor is scum im going to be so upset i have been nodding at his posts in general but on these last couple pages specifically they just strike the heart

If you agree with Dann this much

Would you vote Ythan right now

as ive said i will sheep it if i can't think of good reasoning for any alternatives i prefer

my vote is spiritually on Ythan even though i prefer Dannflor's other scum!candidate, Titus

i mean, the best "case" ive seen on Ythan is that he's downplaying how much he tried in the previous game? some people are calling it lying? and lying is scummy so ythan == scum?? i don't have any reason to townread him either

if anyone on the Ythan wagon wants it for anything other than just a compromise elimination to reset and try again tomorrow, id be curious. my biggest fear is that Ythan will flip town with little information about the wagonees, someone helpful like Dannflor will be the NK and we will be in an objectively worse spot tomorrow

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if Flanndor is scum im going to be so upset i have been nodding at his posts in general but on these last couple pages specifically they just strike the heart

If you agree with Dann this much

Would you vote Ythan right now

as ive said i will sheep it if i can't think of good reasoning for any alternatives i prefer

my vote is spiritually on Ythan even though i prefer Dannflor's other scum!candidate, Titus

i mean, the best "case" ive seen on Ythan is that he's downplaying how much he tried in the previous game? some people are calling it lying? and lying is scummy so ythan == scum?? i don't have any reason to townread him either

if anyone on the Ythan wagon wants it for anything other than just a compromise elimination to reset and try again tomorrow, id be curious. my biggest fear is that Ythan will flip town with little information about the wagonees, someone helpful like Dannflor will be the NK and we will be in an objectively worse spot tomorrow

For now, I would like if you voted Ythan.

Votes are pressure. The bigger the wagon gets the more people need to respond to it.

Vanity wagons are ending. We might not end the day on Ythan, but for now if you think Ythan isn't townie, let us consolidate there for a moment.

[Cephrir]

i remain very open to the possibility of hopkirk being scum but i think that's also a tomorrow problem at this point

[AGar]

@LLD

No I know. It's a large, we need a yeet, deadline approaches, all that fun shit.

The main beats are in 2123, 2340, and 2372.

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: Ythan

actually you're totally right, this is more useful atm. and there is still some time to back out of Ythan if he starts townspewing and there might not be later.

[Ythan]

Please end me you're all terrible.

[AGar]

Please end me you're all terrible.

Compelling.

[innocentvillager]

ythan why should we be seeing you as town? from my perspective you're the compromise elim who hasn't done much this game and people are tired and want to start over tomorrow

help us understand what is going on in your brilliant mind

[Dannflor]

which lurker(s)?

how do you feel about ythan

my read is essentially: ythan who?
perma-null basically

something something scum most often lands in the exact center point of people's reads lists

scum read as null a lot more often as town and scum

idk I just can't shake the feeling that there was actual opinions from ythan last game to read him off of and this game feels like he's forcing himself to do anything

[Dannflor]

I'd actually be very happy to vote Titus too if someone suddenly has a compelling town case for Ythan

but I think I've reached the end of my road today and I think within these 2 there's a high likelihood of flipping red

or at least higher than any other case I've seen today has convinced me of

[implosion]

19

The 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution gave American women the right to vote.
The Vietnam War spanned over 19 years, from November 1955 to April 1975.

Vote Count 1.19

Ythan

(8): OkaPoka, Luca Blight, Dannflor, Cephrir, Lady Lambdadelta, Titus, AGar, innocentvillager

Lady Lambdadelta

(5): DrippingGoofball, Xtoxm, mastina, Ythan, jjh927

DrippingGoofball

(2): Dunnstral, Bell

Bell

(1): Winter Flakes

AGar

(1): Hopkirk

Not Voting

(1): Almost50

With 18 alive, it takes 10 votes to eliminate. Deadline is set for 11:00 AM PST on February 12, in (expired on 2021-02-12 15:00:00).

[Ythan]

Dann's preparing for when I flip town.

[Dannflor]

I don't know if I can call Titus town, but if Titus is willing yo sheep and vote with me, she can have a townie card.

I'd be careful because I don't doubt scum are probably in this group

like as much as you hate the people slinging BS arguments at you

I'm not so sure that's going to many scums first train of action

casually backing you up without actually doing anything concrete (ftr I don't think cephrir actually fits this mold) seems more like the easiest scum agenda right now

[Dannflor]

Dann's preparing for when I flip town.

you caught me

[Ythan]

VOTE: OkaPoka

[innocentvillager]

which lurker(s)?

how do you feel about ythan

my read is essentially: ythan who?
perma-null basically

something something scum most often lands in the exact center point of people's reads lists

scum read as null a lot more often as town and scum

idk I just can't shake the feeling that there was actual opinions from ythan last game to read him off of and this game feels like he's forcing himself to do anything

yes but i feel like this is more true when scum are reasonably active (aka actively posting content)? lurker-null is kind of different and more NAI imo

although, i suppose you could argue that Ythan is somewhere in-between

to play some devil's advocate i guess:

idk part of me is going "is... this... really Ythan's scumgame?" low-effort no-cares okay compromise elim me if y'all want y'all suck? and this is his favorite alignment? whereas i could potentially see town!Ythan being genuinely tired of how long this game has dragged out for and not really caring

i strongly get the vibe that Ythan is "flying solo" here, especially with that readslist and overall antagonistic tone. for most players i feel like that's a towntell but it might be NAI for Ythan especially since we saw some of it last game

[Cephrir]

idk part of me is going "is... this... really Ythan's scumgame?" low-effort no-cares okay compromise elim me if y'all want y'all suck? and this is his favorite alignment?

me too, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Ythan]

for most players i feel like that's a towntell but it might be NAI for Ythan especially since we saw some of it last game

I was town last game you

this is an insult