Newbie 2054 - GAME OVER

[Nexus]

Votecount 1.1:

Harumi Ayasato (2) -

eth0s, Krazy

Cantripmancer (1) -

Kazyan

eth0s (1) -

Harumi Ayasato

Krazy (1) -

Cantripmancer

Kazyan (1) -

Meuh

2ndchosen1 (1) -

ItalianoVD

Not voting (2) -

2ndchosen1, marcistar

With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate. Day 1 will end at 11am GMT on the 20th February 2021 - (expired on 2021-02-20 11:00:00)

[Harumi Ayasato]

I googled her

Harumi Gif avatar version 1:

Spoiler:

Harumi Static avatar version 1:

Spoiler:

Harumi Static avatar version 2:

Spoiler:

Any of those work for you?

I'll take Static 1. Will throw it up as soon as possible.

ace attorney best game

We're going to beat the Mafia with the power of friendship, aren't we. ._______.

All in favor of town PR claims being presented as transformation sequences when the time comes to do that?

I also townread both of kazyan's posts so far.

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I have no objections to any of this.

[Krazy]

So far I townlean the tones of Kazyan, Marcistar, Meuh, and Harumi
and faintly townlean Italiano

VOTE: 2ndchosen1

[marcistar]

beating the mafia with the power of friendship can be problematic (it can be hard to reevaluate people if you don't *want* to reevaluate them) but I still would rather have that then a highly toxic game, which can occur even in newbie queue.

we dont need to beat them with the power of friendship...
just whoever doesnt call me beautiful is scum ofc

So far I townlean the tones of Kazyan, Marcistar, Meuh, and Harumi

what did i do to deserve this? :0 people usually call me scummy d1

[ItalianoVD]

Just to let everyone know I townhunt before I scumhunt because I suck at finding scum, so don’t just automatically scumread me because of it. PoE is my friend and should be yours too.

[Krazy]

I don't think a new player opens the game trying to pocket me by complimenting my pfp. Not a strong resd but good enough for page 2 lol

[marcistar]

Just to let everyone know I townhunt before I scumhunt because I suck at finding scum, so don’t just automatically scumread me because of it. PoE is my friend and should be yours too.

i always forget whats a POE???

I don't think a new player opens the game trying to pocket me by complimenting my pfp. Not a strong resd but good enough for page 2 lol

ahhh okai. iwish there was a thinking emoji on here
how long is the random vote phase thingy meant to last its so hard to make votes during it..

[ItalianoVD]

@Italiano, just for your own sanity I am also Happy Unbirthday Boon, so hello again!

Oh hey! Nice to see you again. I’m just gonna assume everyone is an alternate and that they’re capable of anything.

[ItalianoVD]

i always forget whats a POE???

Process of elimination.

how long is the random vote phase thingy meant to last its so hard to make votes during it..

Until there’s something worth voting for. This can happen at anytime.

[Krazy]

2nd time in 2 pages I've wanted to jokeclaim masons with marcistar, I think she is really town

[Meuh]

@Meuh, this is a little oog but was rachelpie trying to in with you? The proximity of your ins made me think you were friends or something

Yeah, im irl friends with rachel, she told me something came up. not sure what but i hope she plays next game! <3

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beating the mafia with the power of friendship can be problematic (it can be hard to reevaluate people if you don't *want* to reevaluate them) but I still would rather have that then a highly toxic game, which can occur even in newbie queue.

ooh i hope the games here don't get too toxic but yes we need to look at things objectively and make smart decisions, regardless of who we like or dislike

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I do think Kazyan looks like a townie here, just from reading his posts and his reply to Krazy's read, although I think anyone contributing to the conversation is more likely to be town than people not talking, right? Most games I've played the more silent the town, the better for scum

[Meuh]

*they

sorry Kazyan

[Kazyan]

'They' is preferred, but 'he' is fine. Don't worry about it.

Yeah, Mafia is a game where every argument gives enough clues and content for someone to start another argument. The random voting stage gets that first one going.

VOTE: ItalianoVD. Hat is too silly.

[Harumi Ayasato]

Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?

[Krazy]

I did notice them but I think it's just playstyle and NAI. I like the kazy townread which to me is more AI (townie) but while meuh is townlean I could still see her going either way

NAI = not alignment indicative

Harumi - marci - kazy

Meuh

Italiano

Cantrip

[Eth0s, 2nd] -- not scumreads, just nullreads where I need more posts to evaluate

Cantrip I very slightly scumread only because he didn't imply a read/guttake of me after asking me questions on page 1 but that's a below rand reason to scumread someone so very close to null there too


Rand = random, I might shorthand that a lot, if I ever slip into weird terms and forget to explain let me know

[ItalianoVD]

Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?

What’s your definition of constant? And myself, meuh, and Marcistar all used them, so we’re all insincere?

[Krazy]

That's funny I thought the comment was about meuh exclusively since hers were the only ones that jumped out at me

I think the sunglasses emote always jumps out at me though, I think that emote in particular reads as insincere just because it looks slightly off for some reason

[Krazy]

Hey everyone!!! time for town to win VOTE:

Kazyan

for not having an anime girl as their pfp.

Scummies, you should out yourselves now! Otherwise we'll catch you and you'll face HARSH consequences for your crimes

If we're getting into weird tone reads, I do think making her first vote pink is more likely to come from town (again, this is probably not reliable but this opening is why I have her in the upper half)

I don't think scum *tend* to draw attention to their vote in that specific manner, but it could be NAI, page 1 tonereads are always tricky business

(Saves the thread the inevitable 'is the greeting tell real' zzz discussion by pointing to the more ai part of the post imo)

Spoiler: greeting tell

last year there was a discussion of whether going 'hey everyone' at the start of a game is scum indicative. Hence 'greeting tell'. It's close enough to rand that it's boring to discuss. I think the pink text in the vote is way more interesting.

Most 'tells' are close to rand anyway, thought process evaluation is always the best way to hunt imo. 'tells' are just another way to get an initial grip on the game or get the game out of rvs

[Krazy]

Lol even writing that I'm like 'damn u could be wrong on meuh' but I like the read and I'm holding it at least through page 5!

[marcistar]

Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?

I do agree with krazy that emojis isnt really alignment indicative.

It's good conversation for early game I think, but if it progresses later on dont let the emojis cloud your judgement!! I think actions > emojis

[Meuh]

Does anyone else find the constant use of emoticons to come off as insincere, or is it just me?

most of my emoji use goes something like this:
-I use the emoji ironically
-I use the emoji semi ironically
-I use it unironically

which is probably the reason why

I think the sunglasses is the clearest case of this (i never really use it to convey i'm cool, i just use it to enrich the way i speak) but i just like using them, people find them odd sometimes but who really cares? i'm not gonna be boring to look more sincere or less cringe better to be extravagant than to limit myself

[Kazyan]

Cringe level is NAI; you heard it here, folks.

[Krazy]

What’s your definition of constant? And myself, meuh, and Marcistar all used them, so we’re all insincere?

the weird defensiveness of this post might be a little scummy too, maybe I'll move italiano out of lean town

[ItalianoVD]

I don't think scum *tend* to draw attention to their vote in that specific manner, but it could be NAI, page 1 tonereads are always tricky business

To go further with your point this here:

Scummies, you should out yourselves now! Otherwise we'll catch you and you'll face HARSH consequences for your crimes

is townie looseness methinks.

[ItalianoVD]

the weird defensiveness of this post might be a little scummy too, maybe I'll move italiano out of lean town

Not defensive, just want them to explain what they mean and who they’re talking about.