TM 2021 Large Normal 2: Wikipedia Integer Facts (Over)

[AGar]

but if you don't think any of the people that facilitated the change (me, Cephrir, Dannflor) are null to scum, that's important right?

No it's not.

[AGar]

Also your attempt to throw someone off with pre-flip associatives is noted and filed.

[innocentvillager]

so to be clear:

-you think the three of us are town
-three townies moved off Ythan and onto Titus
-alarm bells (presumably because scum are manipulating gamestate (??))

pedit: oh okay, are you implying that you townread the 3 of us before, but the quick die-down makes you townread us less (specifically me aorn, because my questioning of you on this feels agenda-y)?

im trying to fill in the blanks here with what you've said so please correct me if anything is wrong

[AGar]

To be clear:

- I don't have strong reads on any of the three of you. I have leans here and there but nothing that I would stake out as a confident read.
- Three players abruptly left the Ythan wagon onto Titus and then a fourth player who wasn't on Ythan jumped on to Titus.
- A wagon hitting E-2 and then falling apart *for no apparent reason* and another wagon springing up is alarming.

I am simply implying that even town players can just fuck up but a wagon reaching a point of E-2 and then dissipating is alarm bells about *the player that that wagon is on*. It is not simply tied to the three of you. It's tied to JJH. It's tied to if anyone else dodged out on the wagon before it fell off. It is tied to - and hold up if you've heard this before - getting an actual flip before I try and say for certainty what it says about any other player besides the player that the wagon was on.

[innocentvillager]

that is an interesting perspective, thanks for responding

i will say, my vote on Ythan was solely a consolidation vote as suggested by LLD to get something out of Ythan anyway, my main intent was to go back to my SL Titus anyway

an aside before i forget

@Luca, DGB

im curious if either of you have impressions about Titus's play here since you both just finished a Large Normal with her (LN 231)?

last thing i think: if you theoretically knew the 3 of us were locktown would it also raise alarm bells for you that Ythan is scum? ik it's a hypothetical but im trying to get a better sense for how you think wagon Ythan and Titus

also by alarm bells you mean this game event makes town!Titus more likely and scum!Ythan more likely, right (and maybe a side of scum!jj more likely)?

[innocentvillager]

get a better sense for how you think wagon Ythan and Titus

*get a better sense for how you think about the wagons on Ythan and Titus

[Titus]

Agar has pocketed me. I see no reason for scum!Agar to defend me like this given his perception of me as a player. I don't completely understand it but a scum Agar could easily hide behind the assumption of whatever bad blood he thinks I have to eliminate me first. The only exception I see to this is if I am hard defending a partner, which would require a total reset of the game.

[Ythan]

which would require a total reset of the game.

eyebrowwaggle

[Ythan]

I'm inclined to say he also defended me last page in a way that would not to helpful to miselim me, but he's also one of the people who obviously has to acknowledge that this is just me regardless of his alignment.

[Cephrir]

just think about how much fun we could have, dear reader. you, me, dunnstral. watching dgb float away towards the sun we have just yeeted it into. we're all happy, and warm, and everything is great.

[Ythan]

That is to say, smells town but he had to say something. That is a town smelling thing to say though.

@ythan

[Cephrir]

it could still happen. it's not too late. you don't have to fade away into the darkness. IT'S NOT TOO LATE FOR YOU. you can still... come back...

[OkaPoka]

i think im w/ever between dgb and ythan idk

[Dunnstral]

elaborate about my "weird" treatment of you? is it just the fact that you're in my PoE and im very unsure on you?

And that you don't seem open to reconsideration but you're also not pushing that hard

[OkaPoka]

wagon consolidations please i would like to know where people are standing

[Bell]

V/la
Limited access.
Beach for 2-3 days.

VOTE: Ythan

[OkaPoka]

u gone already bell or still there

[Bell]

Still here.
I’m not voting LLD. This is kinda a half assed v/la I can still phone post.

[OkaPoka]

i guess my question is kinda preempted but are you scumreading ythan? dgb?

[Bell]

I’m not voting old. Ythan isn’t doing anything, claim time.it you can read dab based off of what they posted this game hats off to you.

[OkaPoka]

is literally everyone but me voting ythan doing it as a compromise/nullflip -_-

[OkaPoka]

at the very least we know bell is 100% mobile posting with those autocorrects

[Ythan]

at the very least we know bell is 100% mobile posting with those autocorrects

I've gotten the lld>old correction more times than I can count and this is the truth.

[Bell]

is literally everyone but me voting ythan doing it as a compromise/nullflip -_-

Dice roll, totally different.
Just whatever you do don’t think I’m crumbing if I randomly capitalize my letters. I’m not.

[Ythan]

is literally everyone but me voting ythan doing it as a compromise/nullflip -_-

I'd say "almost makes you wanna reassess your reads doesn't it" but you already have last game to look at.