Open 804: Popcorn Mafia Redux [Game Over!]

[WhemeStar]

Shoot peta

[WhemeStar]

I think it's just Wheme, NM, and one of Peta or Dunn

Do you really think i bus two of my teammates

[petapan]

Aside from me Imperium kill points to Peta or STT I think?

i feel like anyone would have killed imperium because they were never going to be shot

although it's probably STT

Yo mush good job btw peta is next right

lol ok

[petapan]

Norfolk/HUB was already positioned by scum to get bussed or die if peta's list is right. This makes me believe HUB was pretty much trying to stir the spot and nothing else. His team knew he was at death and so was HUB, so it was just spreading hysteria and nothing else

Unfortunately, that makes him less reliable to ISO as well

agree that HUB was probably effectively in antispew from the moment he subbed in and whatever he says is going to be less reliable, i barely paid any attention to his shit

[petapan]

Guys I was memeing about shooting Norfolk chill...

I think finding out Norfolk's allignment would help quite a bit

BAD POST

In regards to the 3 players to save question,right now i'd only save Not Mafia, because I love him. There's no pro town evidence from anyone other than Netflix at the moment.

Does Norfolk really not have any reads in 20 pages

I am hard agreeing with imperium regarding Norfolk.
Dunn read list is bad

Hmm. You seem sensitive to these sort of dynamics, Wheme; would you say that the conversation was being pushed forward more by Imperium or by Cakez? What I mean is, if one of them dropped off the face of the earth at random during that, which one would have kept posting longer, in your opinion?

I don’t get why you think I’m sensitive to the dynamics. I think imperium was more invested in the conversation as they were questioned by more people and as a result had to defend themselves more. I don’t get why people think imperium was hard defending Norfolk when they weren’t. I myself was confused why people were scumreading Norfolk like crazy. It came after my “shoot Norfolk” post which was just a meme because they said they were glad they didn’t receive the gun.

5 of you are town and 5 of you are scum

Cakez Tammycho unwnd RLotus MUSH (VACANT)

--Null void--
Peta
STT
N_M
--Null void--

Duchess Dunnstral Whemestar Norfolk (VACANT)

What I'm wokring with right now form a pure PoE standpoint

This is such a lazy scum team and makes me think you are scum

Im happy with norfolk shot shoot him mush

remind me again why you're trying to take credit for the norfolk shot

because ahahahahahaha lmao

[petapan]

duchess was extremely bussable by virtue of being the godfather, i give basically no credit for pushing there

[WhemeStar]

I’m not taking credit for it. I was fine with a Norfolk shot

[WhemeStar]

There’s no reason to bus scum during that day phase when town was so chaotic then

[petapan]

"there's no reason for scum to bus" but clearly given all available evidence scum did bus and you want some kind of cred for it

[petapan]

I’m not taking credit for it. I was fine with a Norfolk shot

I think it's just Wheme, NM, and one of Peta or Dunn

Do you really think i bus two of my teammates

[unwnd]

although it's probably STT

What had you coming around to this?

I know Imperium is dead but they were so certain you were scum, I feel right now the gun is probably pointed at you too

What are you doing if you get it?

[petapan]

although it's probably STT

What had you coming around to this?

I know Imperium is dead but they were so certain you were scum, I feel right now the gun is probably pointed at you too

What are you doing if you get it?

i was saying this during the whole last phase because of the way he treated me vs imperium

prob just shooting wheme and NM

[unwnd]

I feel your head is in the right place or you're stuck with bad partners

And believe me, I want to believe the former. I just can't really see your gameplan here if you were scum unless I'm missing something and Tammycho is going 'oh nooo' in the dead PT

[ScrewTheTells]

Imagine if we shot Norfolk day 1 like everyone wanted, except Imperium, Netflix, Not_mafia and Wheme*.

Okay now don't repeat the mistake. Shoot top scum. Mush, why do you think Not_mafia is not top scum? Admittedly I was pretty wrong about Imperium but they weren't my top scum pick.

* (Just checked: Wheme notably voted Norfolk first but then quickly said it was for the lols and started going against it. Also for what it's worth, according to peta's chart MUSH didn't go after norfolk day 1 either.)
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Aside from me Imperium kill points to Peta or STT I think?

i feel like anyone would have killed imperium because they were never going to be shot

although it's probably STT

I'm confused why my name was suddenly mentioned in this context. What's the logic behind scum-STT wanting Imperium dead? (Relative to other players)

I'm still looking at early Norfolk interactions. I agree late Norfolk/HUB was just trying to distract. Cakez saw right through that lol, good call. I almost wanted to believe HUB...meh his wild takes were tempting. My gut wants to say he was on the 1st level of WIFOM (tell lies) but I've had a bad record of trying to guess WIFOM in mafia and my rule of thumb is to ignore it. Maybe there's a chance here though since we know his likely goals?

[WhemeStar]

Hot take STT is town.

Peta still scum

[unwnd]

Wheme tell you what if you're not scum I will believe you ok?

[ScrewTheTells]

i was saying this during the whole last phase because of the way he treated me vs imperium

You mean how you kept saying I was setting up a dichotomy?

That's why I said you were wrong yesterday, Town-Imperium is not significant evidence you're scum, unless you approach it with the assumption that Imperium is pretty accurate with that read. I didn't put that much faith in that. I don't think I ever said that "if Imperium flips town then petapan would be scum", did I? I only said that if Imperium is scum then petapan is probably town, or if petapan is scum then Imperium is probably town. I did not say the opposite was true. You're thinking the evidence is symmetrical (A is evidence of B, also B is evidence of A) but that's not what I said. What I actually said was "A is evidence of B, but B is not necessarily evidence of A".

Does that make sense? Or perhaps you think I should have heeded imperium's read with more weight after all?

[WhemeStar]

Wheme tell you what if you're not scum I will believe you ok?

2 bad mush isnt shooting me

[Not_Mafia]

Wheme dies today

[unwnd]

After some thought I'd be alright with Peta being shot so it isn't wracking my brain

[petapan]

same tbh

[MUSHSHAGANA]

I won’t be shooting petapan this dayphase. I want him to have a zero-pressure chance to convince me he’s town.

I’m not saying I probably shoot Wheme, but I probably shoot Wheme.

[SirCakez]

Aside from me Imperium kill points to Peta or STT I think?

i feel like anyone would have killed imperium because they were never going to be shot

although it's probably STT

Yo mush good job btw peta is next right

lol ok

Except they could have been..i expressed a lot of suspicion of them and a few others did iirc

[SirCakez]

Imagine if we shot Norfolk day 1 like everyone wanted, except Imperium, Netflix, Not_mafia and Wheme*.

Okay now don't repeat the mistake. Shoot top scum. Mush, why do you think Not_mafia is not top scum? Admittedly I was pretty wrong about Imperium but they weren't my top scum pick.

* (Just checked: Wheme notably voted Norfolk first but then quickly said it was for the lols and started going against it. Also for what it's worth, according to peta's chart MUSH didn't go after norfolk day 1 either.)
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Aside from me Imperium kill points to Peta or STT I think?

i feel like anyone would have killed imperium because they were never going to be shot

although it's probably STT

I'm confused why my name was suddenly mentioned in this context. What's the logic behind scum-STT wanting Imperium dead? (Relative to other players)

I'm still looking at early Norfolk interactions. I agree late Norfolk/HUB was just trying to distract. Cakez saw right through that lol, good call. I almost wanted to believe HUB...meh his wild takes were tempting. My gut wants to say he was on the 1st level of WIFOM (tell lies) but I've had a bad record of trying to guess WIFOM in mafia and my rule of thumb is to ignore it. Maybe there's a chance here though since we know his likely goals?

Imp suspected you at the end of yesterday

[SirCakez]

I think we need to keep going on the route of shooting the universal scumreads
We can hero-shoot for deep wolves once the obviously scummy slots are cleared out and we (hopefully) have some breathing room for mis-shots