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[Bell]

It's self-evident. We should have gotten a claim out of someone days ago. Shouldn't you of all people be the most upset with the game going to deadline like this?

[AGar]

Shouldn't you of all people be the most upset with the game going to deadline like this?

I burned out on emotions like... Sunday. I'm exasperated. People won't even consider hopkirk, and they lost interest in the Luca slot after Hercule replaced out. I tried to coalition with LLD to move to Ythan who is still fairly just null for me, and somehow now the leading wagons are LLD and DGB, neither of which I want to yeet. So I too think the wagons suck. And I'm very tired, but I'm still at least trying to figure something out because I have a lot of people who are just "meh I could go either way on them," and I'd like to have a better idea of where things stand tomorrow.

[Bell]

Okay, but I can't force people to vote. IV has felt off these last few pages but that's not happening. I'm skeptical he forgot Hopkirk was in this game given he has, what, 200 posts by this point?
I will be available for a deadline vote.

[AGar]

Okay, but I can't force people to vote.

Nowhere in my post do I demand this?

[innocentvillager]

IV has felt off these last few pages but that's not happening. I'm skeptical he forgot Hopkirk was in this game given he has, what, 200 posts by this point?

yeah it's weird huh idk

like i said maybe it's something about his posting that makes me like glaze over it, similar to last game

it's not like i've forgotten he completely existed for like, a whole week, and just then remembered he was there, just like, i haven't really been sorting him the past couple days so my mind was not on him

[Titus]

If we're talking about people with less game impact, let's forget Hopkirk who obvtowned but go to A50.

[Bell]

You're bitching about my bitching.

[Cephrir]

You're bitching about my bitching.

[bitches about this post]

[AGar]

You're bitching about my bitching.

I mean, yes, I would like you to do something since there was a wagon on your slot earlier and reading you will help me read other players, but you're not really giving much to work with and you might as well just go full V/LA if you're literally only going to say "wow this all sucks deuces!"

[Bell]

I enjoy you this game Cephrir. You've gotten 2 laughs out of me this game. That's rare. Thanks for your sense of humor(not sarcasm).

I am willing to vote DGB to push the game forward. But the wagons keep shifting every 5 seconds. What are they even at?

[AGar]

Like jesus fuck, if you want to complain about how mafia on this site sucks, there's an entire General Discussion forum for that.

P-Edit: It's still LLD vs DGB.

[Cephrir]

I enjoy you this game Cephrir. You've gotten 2 laughs out of me this game. That's rare. Thanks for your sense of humor(not sarcasm).

I am willing to vote DGB to push the game forward. But the wagons keep shifting every 5 seconds. What are they even at?

something like LLD 6, DGB 4 or 5, Titus 2 or 3, Ythan 2, i think?

[Bell]

Eh, I'm not really sure because I'm just kind of in the gray area of availability but I wanted to make it clear that's what I was.

[Bell]

VOTE: DGB

[Cephrir]

Lady Lambdadelta (6): DrippingGoofball, Xtoxm, mastina, Hopkirk, Ythan, jjh927
DrippingGoofball (5): Dunnstral, Cephrir, OkaPoka, Lady Lambdadelta, Bell
Ythan (3): Luca Blight, Titus, AGar
titus 2 - dann, iv
Bell (1): Winter Flakes
OkaPoka (1): Almost50

[Cephrir]

@a50/winter get with the program thanks

[AGar]

I would expand that to dann/iv too

[DrippingGoofball]

META ALERT

Everyone knows how I feel about meta, but one of my team mates pointed to this LLD scum game where one can look at her AtE. He cautions us not to be fooled.

Spoiler:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=77636

Here are some posts:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10529322
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10529351
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10529469
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10530123
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10549541
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10549542
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p10549543

the tl;dr of this is

Grow some backbone and let's get some actual work done.

If you want a hard promise from me, here's one.

Regardless of how things go, I promise to voluntarily leave the dance immediately after intermission

He's done nothing but troll and dance around and not try and get paired remotely.

I think he's probably town by exclusion.

He's just looking to use whatever bad logic he can to satisfy his hate boner and control issues.

At this point, ignoring him is the best play.

I'm really shocked people think I'm somehow above sacrificing myself when the situation calls for it. I'm a very very flexible scumplayer. >.>

Also this is stupid why would you do this

As scum you should really never leave the dance unless it strictly advances the wincon of another scum player and this definitely didn't do that.

You should have fought a bit harder to place doubt.

Anyway, gg town. I'd love to play scum in a game where I don't have to deal with a dictator who will literally never allow me anywhere near his town block even if I was town.

It's why I was so hoping Short would stick the game out and win so I could shove it in RC's face that I conned him into letting a fucking newbie like Short get past his VAUNTED SCUMHUNTING SKILLS.

• The
  bargaining to stay alive
  happened in that LLD scum game, and happened in this game too.
  
• The
  scum meta ego posts
  happened in that LLD scum game, and happened in this game too.

[Bell]

Like jesus fuck, if you want to complain about how mafia on this site sucks, there's an entire General Discussion forum for that.

P-Edit: It's still LLD vs DGB.

I like Mafia and I don't think this site sucks.
I'm just surprised that this game with this plist has let the game degrade to this point.
I get your frustration with my posting style being somewhat short and hard to read but that's just your playstyle and this is mine. I don't write wall cases and spell things out like you do, nor do I want to. My points are often interspersed throughout my posts. But my trajectories are fairly clear (well except when I flip on a dime).

I'm just filling the role of telling people to get a move on in my own bitchy way because that's roughly what the game needs.

[Cephrir]

The bargaining to stay alive happened in that LLD scum game, and happened in this game too.
The scum meta ego posts happened in that LLD scum game, and happened in this game too.

great. now prove it doesn't happen in town games.

[Cephrir]

vc reminded me jjh existed and i've been townreading him for some reason but that read took a nosedive after isoing

[AGar]

Like jesus fuck, if you want to complain about how mafia on this site sucks, there's an entire General Discussion forum for that.

P-Edit: It's still LLD vs DGB.

I like Mafia and I don't think this site sucks.
I'm just surprised that this game with this plist has let the game degrade to this point.
I get your frustration with my posting style being somewhat short and hard to read but that's just your playstyle and this is mine. I don't write wall cases and spell things out like you do, nor do I want to. My points are often interspersed throughout my posts. But my trajectories are fairly clear (well except when I flip on a dime).

I'm just filling the role of telling people to get a move on in my own bitchy way because that's roughly what the game needs.

The GD quip was more just a general joke.

As for the rest, I actually just can't follow where you're at besides Ceph is maybe scum but maybe not and you don't like the wagons. That's all I've got thus far, and it feels lacking. *shrug*

[DrippingGoofball]

The bargaining to stay alive happened in that LLD scum game, and happened in this game too.
The scum meta ego posts happened in that LLD scum game, and happened in this game too.

great. now prove it doesn't happen in town games.

I don't believe in meta. Just parroting my team mate.

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's make it official, also I seem to have forgotten Luca was in the game...

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Xtoxm
Dannflor
Winter Flakes
Hopkirk
Luca Blight
AGar
jjh927 - low activity, low quality post by did drop a towntell
Titus - VLA, but I like what I see thus far
hercule - was going to say null until I caught a towntell

NULL

mastina - I have been enjoying her posts on a personal and intellectual level, I have seen nothing I would consider remotely scummy but she's not someone who can be read on Day 1.
Almost50 - he is so giddy I read his post with a helium balloon voice, I don't know if that's AI.
Ythan - low activity, nothing alarming, keep an eye on.
Cephrir - was going to be in my town list but I saw a few things that pinged.
innocentvillager - still demotivated, but healthy vote micturition.

SCUM

Dunnstral

- his xtoxm scumread feels like he's scum sensing a weak target and picking at him. a lot of going back and forth and fencesitting.

OkaPoka

- his OMGUS hasn't done much for me to rescind my scum read.

the worst/Bell

- Bleak prognosis, confused mental state.

Lady Lambdadelta

- aggressively discrediting players, manipulative ego post, feeble xtomx vote.

How I feel right now about all my scum reads voting me:

[DrippingGoofball]

You have to listen to the dancing banana until the end.