TM 2021 Large Normal 2: Wikipedia Integer Facts (Over)

[Dunnstral]

What info do we get?

[implosion]

24

Since 24 = 4!, it follows that 24 is the number of ways to order 4 distinct items: (1,2,3,4), (1,2,4,3), (1,3,2,4), (1,3,4,2), (1,4,2,3), (1,4,3,2), (2,1,3,4), (2,1,4,3), (2,3,1,4), (2,3,4,1), (2,4,1,3), (2,4,3,1), (3,1,2,4), (3,1,4,2), (3,2,1,4), (3,2,4,1), (3,4,1,2), (3,4,2,1), (4,1,2,3), (4,1,3,2), (4,2,1,3), (4,2,3,1), (4,3,1,2), (4,3,2,1).

Vote Count 1.24

Lady Lambdadelta

(8): DrippingGoofball, Xtoxm, mastina, Hopkirk, Ythan, jjh927, innocentvillager, Titus

DrippingGoofball

(6): Dunnstral, Cephrir, OkaPoka, Lady Lambdadelta, Bell, Dannflor

Ythan

(3): Luca Blight, AGar, Almost50

Bell

(1): Winter Flakes

Not Voting

(0):

With 18 alive, it takes 10 votes to eliminate. Deadline is set for 11:00 AM PST on February 12, in (expired on 2021-02-12 15:00:00).

[mastina]

(but honestly, i don't even know if your scumreads are that correlated)

They both are, and are not.

All four have reasons, independent of one another, to be scum; the scumread on Titus is in particular the strongest but there's also good reasons for LLD and AGar; the weakest of these is by far OkaPoka who is mostly little things.

But all four have reasons, correlated, intricately connected to one another, to be scum. The AGar-Titus-Oka trifecta in particular share a solid link, and the Titus-LLD-AGar voting bloc is also a definitive thing. They have been dead-set on protecting one another fairly strongly.

[mastina]

-i want Titus wagoned, I've expressed some reasoning but it's too nebulous and not concrete enough, and I don't want to case her (im lazy, this is no one else's fault)

Yup, I am equally guilty of this. I am well aware I have not given my case for why Titus is scum. It is my fault that I've yet to have done this. When I have the free time on D2, I'll try to get it done but I accept full fault for not having done the scum case on Titus today.

[Titus]

UNVOTE: LLD

Mastina convinced me to unvote. All the names she shaded in her last post are town.

[Titus]

UNVOTE: LLD

Mastina convinced me to unvote. All the names she shaded in her last post are town.

[mastina]

this is the exact scenario that i hate and scum take advantage of

A question tho:
Who do you think is taking advantage of the scenario/situation?

Because yes, the people doing so would be scum, but topping the charts for me would be LLD, Oka, and Titus for this.

[mastina]

what is your read of agar's terrible approach to me, considering this?

haven't looked into this too heavily but i also think that agar has been similar this game from the portions i remember

I thought so, too--I thought that the AGar of this game was similar to the AGar of last game. But just like plenty of others have thought similar of Ythan, "I thought Ythan was similar to last game where he was town but the more and more I see the less and less I think Ythan is town", and similar, I have those thoughts of AGar:

Yes, he did appear similar to me. But his posts feel like they are exaggerated in a way they were not last game. He feels different from last game in spite of the superficial similarities. His rage is there just the same with abrasiveness all the same, except this game it feels even stronger, even exaggerated. He feels more forced this game than last, and his takes feel weaker than they were last game.

VOTE: agar
your engagement with me in general doesn't have the slightest sense of actual engagement. It's just posturing

I have a slightly different take that's along the same lines; AGar's hostility this game feels over the top. I realize AGar was hostile last game in a manner similar to this game, but the more and more hostility I see from AGar this game, the more and more it feels like a deliberate caricature on his part; the more and more it's beginning to feel like he's deliberately playing to mimic, or at least channel, the hostility he held last game in a way that he knows will generate cheap, easy, early, towncred.

I don't know AGar at all; he probably will blow up at me for this post with a dressing down of me with a level of hostility matched by his posting thusfar. But I'm increasingly thinking the initial vibe I got of him being similar to last game was either just a personality thing or was him deliberately channeling the energy there and once he started to channel that energy, he didn't know how to stop.

So yes, I think he's scum.

[mastina]

Titus my main problem with you is you have these seemingly strong reads like LLD!town and the_worst!scum

but I haven't really seen you try to push these reads in any reasonably forceful way. I get not wanting to add noise to the thread but your actions don't seem to line up with what you're saying. Like, you've wound up on the same wagon as Bell, purportedly your strongest scum read. And as someone who self proclaims to pay a lot of attention to VCA, that feels off coming from you.

Like I would wall post about these qualms because I think it's a trackable pattern throughout your ISO of making these claims that I would think town!you should feel very strongly about in this current game state, but your actions are half hearted. Like you say you tried to get people on your side, but you never spent much time trying to get a wagon going on the_worst. Like you voted there, but a lot of the actual content you put out, like aligning VCA with DGB's reads, feels like busy work rather than anything that's actually trying to progress your view of the game.

And it seems you've kinda 'given up' now because everyone seems fixated on LLD regardless what you or anyone says, which is somewhat fair, but I haven't really seen you make a concerted effort to get the fixation off of her, even though you say you want to.

anyway I'm not gonna wall post because I figure it's better to directly engage you now that you're in thread

The funny thing is, this is basically half of my case on Titus, just from Dann's wording rather than my own.

[OkaPoka]

titus if you are unvoting lld you better be voting dgb because ahem

12 hours, 22 minutes

also where did flakes go

[mastina]

That almost definitely needs to be workshopped into a different acronym.

Crazy fire drill--keeps the same letters and far less problematic imo.

[mastina]

UNVOTE: LLD
Mastina convinced me to unvote. All the names she shaded in her last post are town.

Ah yes, the unvote is totally because of me, and not because it came after implosion listed you as on the wagon so that you can point to that as "proof" that you were on the LLD wagon while reaping the benefits of not actually voting LLD. (Which is to say: making it harder to actually eliminate LLD, but paying lip service for future days where it will look like you were willing to even though it's self-evident that you're not.)

[Dannflor]

Crazy fire drill

I like this

[Dannflor]

idk it just seems like titus wants her hands washed clean of this day

idk why voting with a scum read is suddenly such a big deal

[Xtoxm]

titus ;=;

[OkaPoka]

do i really need to set an alarm for a game on ms.net

[Dannflor]

I'll be awake at deadline

[Dannflor]

I'm in PST so

[OkaPoka]

im pst as well but uhh xd

[Dannflor]

no judgement here

[Xtoxm]

you could just cross the picket line now and become my favourite chicken

[OkaPoka]

when you put it like that how could i resist

[Dannflor]

no oka don't fall for the whispers of the cute anime girl

or do oh well

[Cephrir]

Wait I'm in PST too are you guys my neighbors

Anyway I'll be up

[Dannflor]

I'm in Oregon