I'm having a hard time sorting who you're referring to in this stream of consciousnessIn post 93, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:its something i myself as scum would see and latch onto early on for towncred, as to why i reached that conclusion. I myself wanted to see how they play out wrt their sorting between elements/I considering the similarities and then later down the line question them about it.
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gut townie? i like early readslists presented like that. the only thing that pinged me was the fact i was a sole null, but i think if elements were scum and bullshitting reads early, it probably wouldn't be a problem to bs a read on me too, so i actually don't think it's ai.In post 93, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:What is your take on Elements Datisi?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Duchess
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Would they still be useful for evaluating other slots if they are town? I'm not sure if you're talking about a spew-angle here, or a sitting duck/low hanging fruit angle.In post 96, Reformed Toxic Player wrote:Harumi is a slot that will be useful in evaluating other slots for me based on their play thus far, so I'm taking a hands off approach for now with them.Gotta frown at some of this stuffThey say that new Duchess don't sound hungry enough- Duchess
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I agree that the presentation of Elements's reads looks town on the surface, but I'm surprised more people aren't noticing the lack of commitment to a read on the players Elements should supposedly have a much easier time reading. Obviously it's early to be expecting "commitment", but they didn't have a problem slapping full town/scum labels on people with only 1 post.Gotta frown at some of this stuffThey say that new Duchess don't sound hungry enough- Datisi
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i don't like 68 and 95. the way they're questioning and poking elements about their gut reads and the way they form them seems to be more ~for show~ rather than being genuinely curious about them. also i'm getting pinged by the way they shade testa in 90 for looking like she's trying extra hard, when that's the read i get from their posts. seems somewhat... self-aware?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- VP Baltar
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I wouldn't say there is meant to be much of a progression between those two posts you linked. Elements did not directly answer my first question, but posting the readslist and the ensuing discussion was a satisfying enough response to me. Rather than prod for a direct answer, I pivoted to a different line of questioning, one that is more relevant now, and that nobody else seems to be picking up on. I don't fully understand what you're saying about Testa. Are you saying that I'm trying hard as well and so shouldn't be suspicious of her, or just that you had an opposite read?Gotta frown at some of this stuffThey say that new Duchess don't sound hungry enough- Duchess
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Uh uh. That’s not directly correlated. To me, I’m a bad scum player because I don’t like being scum and have a hard time lying and generally get caught in some way because of it.In post 81, Green Crayons wrote:so in your mind, VD, you're a bad scum player because you were meme quick-eliminated in RVS?- ItalianoVD
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They had those reads on page 1 that game, before anything even started.In post 82, VP Baltar wrote:Turns out Italiano maybe just had a bad game rather than it saying anything about elements.- VP Baltar
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Unless you're saying elements had psychic powers, something clearly pinged themIn post 109, ItalianoVD wrote:
They had those reads on page 1 that game, before anything even started.In post 82, VP Baltar wrote:Turns out Italiano maybe just had a bad game rather than it saying anything about elements.YOUR AD HERE- Green Crayons
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Word.In post 108, ItalianoVD wrote:
Uh uh. That’s not directly correlated. To me, I’m a bad scum player because I don’t like being scum and have a hard time lying and generally get caught in some way because of it.In post 81, Green Crayons wrote:so in your mind, VD, you're a bad scum player because you were meme quick-eliminated in RVS?
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Uh, I just isolated ItalianoVD and despite being relatively active they made like two substantial posts. For lack of any clearly better options, I'm going to VOTE: ItalianoVDVOTE: for now.Defeating scum with the power of friendship!
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i'm not talking about your progression between the two, i'm talking about the way those posts were formed. i think the questions themselves were fine, it just seemed a bit too performative / wordy, as in you were moreso making sure that everyone sees you're solving ele than actually solving themIn post 106, Duchess wrote:I wouldn't say there is meant to be much of a progression between those two posts you linked. Elements did not directly answer my first question, but posting the readslist and the ensuing discussion was a satisfying enough response to me. Rather than prod for a direct answer, I pivoted to a different line of questioning, one that is more relevant now, and that nobody else seems to be picking up on.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Duchess
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it reminded me of a semi-recent game where i got called out as scum for something similar - iirc i was showing a scummy behaviour and also calling someome else out for said scummy behaviour. yeah, i kinda find it odd you'd hold it against her?In post 106, Duchess wrote:I don't fully understand what you're saying about Testa. Are you saying that I'm trying hard as well and so shouldn't be suspicious of her, or just that you had an opposite read?I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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perhaps, time will tell. it's a line i'm interested in pursuing for now.In post 114, Duchess wrote:Then it seems you have a problem with my writing style and not my play.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Datisi
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any reason for specifically isoing him?In post 112, Harumi Ayasato wrote:Uh, I just isolated ItalianoVD and despite being relatively active they made like two substantial posts. For lack of any clearly better options, I'm going to VOTE: ItalianoVDVOTE: for now.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Duchess
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By all means, your vote is your vote, and the game is young.In post 116, Datisi wrote:
perhaps, time will tell. it's a line i'm interested in pursuing for now.In post 114, Duchess wrote:Then it seems you have a problem with my writing style and not my play.Gotta frown at some of this stuffThey say that new Duchess don't sound hungry enough- VP Baltar
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I don't understand why you'd have time to ISO Italiano but not just reread the full game.In post 112, Harumi Ayasato wrote:Uh, I just isolated ItalianoVD and despite being relatively active they made like two substantial posts. For lack of any clearly better options, I'm going to VOTE: ItalianoVDVOTE: for now.YOUR AD HERE- ItalianoVD
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Okay, so are you townleaning VP?In post 90, Duchess wrote:I dislike Testarossa's post about VP. She comes out looking like she is trying extra hard, putting a lot of thought into the game, maybe an asset to town, but it's far too early in my opinion for any of those points against VP to have come from a genuine ping.
I posted 72 irt to my interaction with VP. Then I went and skimmed back over the page which is why I mentioned 73 and 74 after the fact.In post 90, Duchess wrote:However, I dislike Italiano's subsequent vote even more;it feels opportunistic in its timing, and the reason given ("not taking a chance" on whether or not "you caught me" is a joke) is terrible, as if he didn't want to admit he was piggybacking on Testa's post. I think I will keep my Harumi vote for now, but these two are both on my radar.
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do you have an opinion on it?In post 105, VP Baltar wrote:That's a very spicy take indeed.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- VP Baltar
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It seems a little reachy to me. Duchess made a fair point questioning Elements' reads list.In post 122, Datisi wrote:
do you have an opinion on it?In post 105, VP Baltar wrote:That's a very spicy take indeed.
Duchess probably is reaching on Testa, but her style as town is fairly verbose, so I can see someone being thrown by that. It is all a bit early to tell what is smoke and what is fire.YOUR AD HERE- ItalianoVD
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Well it sure felt like it. I can’t speak for what they actually and I doubt they’ll go into it, but I posted a couple of RVS style posts and neither of my partners had posted yet. I felt like he had the inside scoop. I did think it was awesome though.In post 110, VP Baltar wrote:
Unless you're saying elements had psychic powers, something clearly pinged themIn post 109, ItalianoVD wrote:
They had those reads on page 1 that game, before anything even started.In post 82, VP Baltar wrote:Turns out Italiano maybe just had a bad game rather than it saying anything about elements.
Nah, can’t say that I have. I’m not sure where to place them yet, but if I had to say, their posts and takes have seemed townie.In post 111, Green Crayons wrote:Have you played with Duchess before? - ItalianoVD
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