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Lady Lambdadelta has been eliminated on Day One. She was a.Vanilla Townie
It is now Night One. Actions are due by Sunday at 10:00 PST, in (expired on 2021-02-14 14:00:00).- implosion
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Dannflor has been killed on Night One. He was a.Town 3-shot Announcing Neapolitan
DrippingGoofball has been killed on Night One. It was a.Town Tracker
It is now Day Two. Deadline is set for 2 weeks from now at 11:00 AM PST, in (expired on 2021-02-28 15:00:00). With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to eliminate.- Dunnstral
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Black hole tier:
[DGB, jjh927, innocentvillager, Ythan, Luca Blight]
A.k.a. the "no escape" tier
The players in this category are all scum or honorary scum, we need the mod to sort out the rest.
We WILL eliminate, vig, or otherwise sort the players in the above bracket, preferrably but not strictly necessarily from left to right. We move to eliminate the player furthest to the left, vig targets the next person. Investigatives and protectives should not target within this group.
That means the furthest to the left should claim now.
Here is what I won't be considering today:
-New tone-based considerations from day 2+
-AtE
-Wifom
-"Why would I x" from the suspect
-"Why would they claim x" from somebody else
What I will be considering:
- Claims such as innocent child, mason, friendly neighbor, etc.
- Somebody else claiming a hard inno result
- A review of day 1 play
Wormhole tier:
[mastina, Hopkirk, xtoxm]
A.k.a. the "disconnected from reality" tier
These are players whose reads lists are likely more accurate if flipped upside down.
Does that make them scum? Maybe, we should figure this group out from left to right after everyone in black hole tier is dead or cleared. This would be a good place to use investigative roles.
I don't want to continue to give xtoxm and mastina a pass to do whatever because of tone.
Anomaly tier:
[Almost50, Bell, Winter Flakes]
A.k.a. the "weird gameplay" tier
These are tertiary suspects who acted strange in some way yesterday. In fact, all of them have felt detached from the game day (including Bell's predecessor here for his slot.) After sorting through wormhole tier this would be a good place to pick up, left to right. Granted I can more easily see the people in this list as town (I did list 8 names before them after all).
Everyone else:
In no particular order I townread all of Dannflor, Cephrir, Agar, OkaPoka, Titus
I'm open to reconsideration after all of black hole tier is 'sorted', and all of wormhole tier is sorted
As an aside, yesterday LLD wasn't so clear. I mean, DGB is an order of magnitude easier tor ead as scum than LLD is as town, but there was some room for doubt.
You know what's weird about the LLD voters? They all seemed so convinced that LLD was scum. It reads as fake; you can't be that confident based off of the case that was presented.
You know what all of my townreads have in common? They all were some level of back-and-forth on the issue. They were considering things. This isn't an intentional choice in reads on my part, things just lined up that way. And most of my scumreads had hard-line stances based off of flimsy evidence.
Now, individual comments:
DGB: Now that LLD has died and flipped town - yeah, we need to elim here. We NEED to elim here and I'm not going to let us do otherwise this day phase. I cased DGB in post 1754 and talked about them earlier as well. Basically, they're completely different to last game, their reads both feel fake and are either provably wrong or I know they're wrong about myself and there is VERY little attempt from DGB to read myself.
Titus: The player in my townreads who I am most willing to reconsider on, and who voted for Lady Lambdadelta at the end, they almost made it into Anomaly tier, but upon review I found her to be a step up from my other reads and did not want to sort there. Regardless of my read here, we're not sorting Titus before the likes of xtoxm and mastina, and all the players I listed above. A decent amount those players have been pushing Titus as well, if I remember correctly.
jjh927: The only good thing in this iso is the part where he tries to figure out Titus. Their reads suck: They are wormhole tier and are better served upside down, but their individual play and pushing of the LLD/Titus wagons pushes them up to wormhole tier.
xtoxm/mastina: Same thought for both: Don't let them get away with 'tone'. If this weren't team mafia these two would be in wormhole tier on policy, they are close to the event horizon. The only reason they're not in wormhole tier is because, to put it bluntly, they're both terrible town players and so even if they're wrong about everything it holds less weight.
innocentvillager: Starts off on DGB, ditches to vote me, and then hard pushes LLD under the guise of progressing the game. Wants Titus wagoned. LLD thought this was scum. He dies.
Hopkirk: Upside down reads list. 2815: "Town- DGB, Xtoxm, Mastina, Hercule; POE- LLD, Ceph, Oka, Agar". Seriously?
Luca Blight: Luca Blight himself has had some good comments, and some bad comments. At the end of the day, he voted for LLD for some reason despite talking abotu DGB earlier, and as LLD put it there were reasons for finding Hercule scummy that didn't go away. The slot I'm least sure of in black hole tier, so I put it at the end, but I do believe it needs to go sooner rather than later.
Ythan: At a certain point we have to accept that playing different last game means they are scum this game. That point will hopefully be right after we've finished yeeting DGB, jjh927, and innocent villager. 2712 is notably sketchy and talks about DGB, Titus, and LLD. Lists me as their top townread in 2202 but i don't know what to make of that.
Almost50/Winter Flakes/Bell: They all took a back seat for a large portion of the day. Winter Flakes said LLD was an information elim but then voted DGB at the end, I'm not sure what to make of that.
Dannflor/Cephrir/Agar/OkaPoka: I townread all of them and don't have anything else to say about them at this time.- Dunnstral
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Alright, so we're going for "honorary scum" on that one and Titus was right, and everyone else on my list is now 33% more likely to be scum than if DGB was oneIn post 3153, implosion wrote:Dannflor has been killed on Night One. He was a.Town 3-shot Announcing Neapolitan
DrippingGoofball has been killed on Night One. It was a.Town Tracker
It is now Day Two. Deadline is set for 2 weeks from now at 11:00 AM PST, in (expired on 2021-02-28 15:00:00). With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to eliminate.
VOTE: jjh927- Ythan
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honorary scum? chill lolIn post 3154, Dunnstral wrote:The players in this category are all scum or honorary scum, we need the mod to sort out the rest.- OkaPoka
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"hard pushes LLD" okay clearly i hard pushed her ???? what fucking game are you reading dudeIn post 3154, Dunnstral wrote:innocentvillager: Starts off on DGB, ditches to vote me, and then hard pushes LLD under the guise of progressing the game. Wants Titus wagoned. LLD thought this was scum. He dies.- Dunnstral
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Jumpy.In post 3159, innocentvillager wrote:
honorary scum? chill lolIn post 3154, Dunnstral wrote:The players in this category are all scum or honorary scum, we need the mod to sort out the rest.- OkaPoka
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probably town!Dunnstral tbhIn post 3166, Bell wrote:Hi,
Driving home in an hour then full attention.
I have never seen Dunnstrall effort this hard. In addition, in the individual comments nice touch on talking about flipping DGB when DGB is dead if scum.
What's a neopolitan?
sucks that he's tunneling me- OkaPoka
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Checks a player and sees if they are a vanilla townie or notIn post 3166, Bell wrote:What's a neopolitan?
So, a moderately powerful role. Stronger than tracker.- OkaPoka
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noIn post 3170, OkaPoka wrote:dunn did akarin help you out on that readslist jw
well, I was talking to akarin a bit, but I didn't have anyone go over my post - Dunnstral
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