Flavor Leaf vs. Hectic [Game Over]

[Hopkirk]

i TR MT after i worked out the towntell

[Ydrasse]

no one ever believes me when i say i forgot something/im joking

im gonna stop having fun because its SCUMMY even when id do it as either alignment

[Shi]

Yeah, NAI tbh

[Krazy]

I had a big conversation with Alisae but my main thoughts for the future of this series is:
-stealth meme alts for stumps is a GREAT idea
-masons with town stump is a TERRIBLE idea

[Alisae]

xtoxm played well but given his claim, the lack of him getting shot would eventually expose him.
ydra did nothing the whole game so they die at some point
catboi was okay but was very clearly acting like scum. This isn't a bad thing btw, I tend to be really openwolfy when I powerwolf, it's just that by D3 it just seemed desperate.
Can't say much about Dann but I personally just think drafting him was a mistake

I don't think any of these teammates support each other except for catboi + xtoxm. Thats the start of something

[Flavor Leaf]

I didnt even need the town tells from MT, i just saw they were so incredibly genuine

[Hopkirk]

3 masons made me feel dirty being one, and not just because of my backstory

[Morning Tweet]

Morning was off the table because she despises scum with a passion lol

Chara is in a similar place but doesn't hate it *as* much, so might've picked later

bless

[catboi]

I had planned to possibly retract the VT claim later and claim something else (I had bandied about Informed Cop Enabler in the PT), but then I kind of locked myself into the claim. Don't really think it would've made a ton of difference, too many people were too town to really stand a chance here.

ggwp flavor leaf.

[Xtoxm]

Xtoxm, you claiming Disloyal is what made me believe you were scum early. I made a case on you a few days ago in the mason PT saying that your weak spot is fake claiming as scum, and thr fact that every time I talked to you I town read you is why I thought you were scum here.

yeah i toyed with the idea of hiding the disloyal part of the fake and adding that later, decided to go with the not-hide-shit-from-ic angle i think the position was defensible if i had been pushed much on it. i mean the claim def ended up getting me as deep into the game as i wanted we just lost the endgame wolves along the way unfortunately.

[Flavor Leaf]

Xtoxm pick was just always gonna be rough because I just know him so well.

And Ydrasse/Xtoxm got locked in incredibly hard where if they were scum, they were never winning here early on.

[Alisae]

-masons with town stump is a TERRIBLE idea

remind me where in dms we talked about this I forget I'm sure we did tho cuz I remember the first point being something we talked about

[Firebringer]

yeah this had too many masons and with them being in the chat with stump made it worse

@Hectic next time i will try not to bribe mod to get me in on the scum team

[Shi]

Pick me when you roll scumstump Fire

[Flavor Leaf]

Xtoxm, you claiming Disloyal is what made me believe you were scum early. I made a case on you a few days ago in the mason PT saying that your weak spot is fake claiming as scum, and thr fact that every time I talked to you I town read you is why I thought you were scum here.

yeah i toyed with the idea of hiding the disloyal part of the fake and adding that later, decided to go with the not-hide-shit-from-ic angle i think the position was defensible if i had been pushed much on it. i mean the claim def ended up getting me as deep into the game as i wanted we just lost the endgame wolves along the way unfortunately.

Yeah, once Skitter flipped town, and the day neither you or Ydrasse died, I knew something was up.

I needed to fade Skitter first because I didnt want to misfade either of you 2.

Titus fade was fine because we just went through the Vanilla Trap.

[Firebringer]

if i did a vs game it would be town skitter against scum fire. My scumteam must be ready for a slaughter

[Flavor Leaf]

yeah this had too many masons and with them being in the chat with stump made it worse

@Hectic next time i will try not to bribe mod to get me in on the scum team

i got too choose the masons.

I think Hectic just played too safe against me tbh.

[Morning Tweet]

Sorry tweetie

This was fun

During the night where I was gathering all the votes on me, i finally stumbled across the part where you explained the scumread on me. that's on me for never reading that part, i legit thought u had never explained it. i get it now (≧ω≦) i was scummy

[Krazy]

Also sorry to both stumps for the setup probably veering townsided, it was really hard to evaluate 3 masons + scum knowing town had 0 non-shitty invests
I think the "in the know" gimmick also veered more townsided than I had anticipated

[catboi]

I like being scum but most of my game was played around fooling the rest of the town and not the one person that mattered. ヘ(￣ー￣ヘ)

[Shi]

Also sorry to both stumps for the setup probably veering townsided, it was really hard to evaluate 3 masons + scum knowing town had 0 non-shitty invests
I think the "in the know" gimmick also veered more townsided than I had anticipated

That's alright <3

I think all of these versus games being town stomps or close to town stomps says something about the format/balance. The masons are problematic for sure

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm probably done with Versus games. Ive played where I needed.

Being Scum Stump sucks.

Being Town Stump is irritating, but I did get to play god, which was fun.

I like being regular town in these games the best.

I have no interest in being on the Scum side as not a stump.

[Krazy]

-masons with town stump is a TERRIBLE idea

remind me where in dms we talked about this I forget I'm sure we did tho cuz I remember the first point being something we talked about

we had like an entire conversation about this... well I more specifically said to double the pool of mason picks (up to like 12/17 players) and also cap masons at 2, but frankly I think the game is actually better if there just cannot be masons in versus setup games at all

[Flavor Leaf]

Also sorry to both stumps for the setup probably veering townsided, it was really hard to evaluate 3 masons + scum knowing town had 0 non-shitty invests
I think the "in the know" gimmick also veered more townsided than I had anticipated

at least it wasn't as rough as Pooky vs FL setup wise. You had stuff to do, you guys just played unbelievably safe.

No gambits were really made

[Xtoxm]

I had a big conversation with Alisae but my main thoughts for the future of this series is:
-stealth meme alts for stumps is a GREAT idea
-masons with town stump is a TERRIBLE idea

i dont think town stump should have any masons or powers, it doesnt really feel like mafia, more like two informed minoritys vs each other. stump should have to work everything out.

(not a complaint abt the result, town was undoubtedly the better team)