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[Dunnstral]

VCA dictates you should be SR'd,

[mastina]

MOD: STILL BADLY V/LA DUE to SNOW KNOCKING OUT the INTERNET.
VOTE: Titus
I'm current up to N1 and saw the night's flips, but I am still badly restricted here.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Luca???

Man why did we have to lose both my rocks day 1. The SS Warthog is left without a rudder.

What do you think of jjh today?

What do your 5 shots look like?

[Bell]

JJH, why did you want to sheep Mastina this game? Is there any prior indication in your posts that you agreed with Mastina on their reads?

[jjh927]

MOD: STILL BADLY V/LA DUE to SNOW KNOCKING OUT the INTERNET.
VOTE: Titus
I'm current up to N1 and saw the night's flips, but I am still badly restricted here.

This was basically what I just did too, but looking back do you not think Titus pushing for the Ythan wagon in light of TRing both LLD and DGB is town indicative?

[Luca Blight]

I’ve just woken up, I’ll catch-up in an hour or so.

[Bell]

@A50, S_S wants you to better define your question he thinks it's too broad and doesn't know how to answer.

[Xtoxm]

my vote was never about following mastina
she just happened to share the read with me
i dont see what she's seeing in titus

[Bell]

*blink*

[jjh927]

JJH, why did you want to sheep Mastina this game? Is there any prior indication in your posts that you agreed with Mastina on their reads?

Because I am confident Mastina is town, and since I respect her and she was putting more effort into day 1 than I was, plus she was pretty confident on the LLD and Titus reads, PLUS I felt she was more capable of reading those slots, I was happy to sheep

Mastina often functions on a similar wavelength to myself. There really aren't very many people at all who I would just straight up sheep certain reads from but Mastina is one of them. I can't think of others off the top of my head

[Bell]

Her title is literally false prophet.

[jjh927]

And?

[Bell]

I'm deciding whether I believe you or not and whether Mastina is bad town or scum.
You didn't strike me as the sheeping type. Would you sheep as a cover to get a miselim?

[jjh927]

The ostensible strength of belief in her reads may be pretty damn far away from her actual read accuracy, but that read accuracy isn't bad.

I can follow her thought process. She thinks in a very similar way to me but specialises in different info


PEdit: I'm not the sheeping type at all, as I said. I'm not sure if I would use sheeping to justify a miselim because I haven't rolled scum since switching to a lazier playstyle, but historically I don't think I've done that because it would be strange from me

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Luca???

Man why did we have to lose both my rocks day 1. The SS Warthog is left without a rudder.

What do you think of jjh today?

What do your 5 shots look like?

Eh. Could still vote there, he sure seems content to just keep doing his thing.

Something like titus, Luca, jjh, bell, winter

[Cephrir]

Not bell, actually

[Xtoxm]

given the wagons yesterday were tvt, my thoughts on what scum were doing yesterday:

#1 didn't probably care ultimately which way the elim went
#2 i think its clear the lld-parkers were more committed than the dgb voters, i dont even think dgb would have been eliminated today, tbh..therefore i expect scum may have preferred the dgb wagon, to maintain the gamestate of lld being wagon parked again today
#3 maybe scum also had elements of fear in voting lld due to reputation or something

given this my slots of interest are:
WF - talked about lld being the better info elim, but then voted dgb instead, with little reasoning provided. fits with (#1) and (#2)
a50 - absent entirely at deadline, never a good sign. fits with (#1). bad takes coming into today

also:
bell - prior susp on this slot. fits (#2). auro thinks his conversation with agar near EOD sounded, in hindsight, informed that both wagons were on town.

dunn - being scummy again. the pre-written post seems like a massive over-reaction to a d1 mis-elim. his plans dont alter at all with the new info on dgb-town.

im not throwing out all my reads bc of one incorrect scumread. my tr was correct on dgb also. the dgb voters were also all wrong.

[Cephrir]

Ah yes, let's still find a way for voting LLD to be a town tell somehow

[jjh927]

VOTE: Luca???

Man why did we have to lose both my rocks day 1. The SS Warthog is left without a rudder.

What do you think of jjh today?

What do your 5 shots look like?

Eh. Could still vote there, he sure seems content to just keep doing his thing.

Something like titus, Luca, jjh, bell, winter

If everyone townread me there would be no point in this lazy shit I'm pulling

[jjh927]

You have actually got me working pretty hard here though

[Bell]

I was asking historically, Okay. So you've switched to a lazier plastyle you think Mastina is town and you agreed with her reasoning and she was trying harder than you, you respect her as a player so you sheeped her unto LLD.
You said you didn't want to follow Mastina uncritically this day phase, which is why you are reconsidering your Titus scum read and unvoted her.

You've expressed your opinions more than is typical from previous games I've played with you, such as scum not liking to draw attention to themselves or overreact or demand a case on them. A broad generalization really.
Or the rather novel take that mafia playrs aren't egotistical which goes...nowhere really?

@Mastina when was the last time you rolled scum from a completed game?

[jjh927]

No, I sheeped her on Titus

[jjh927]

LLD was nullish/scumlean until I figured that basically the whole wagon on LLD was town

[Bell]

Yes, and then you unvoted Titus while saying you could go for me and needed to think for yourself(?) or something and stop sheeping Mastina which is where my question came from. Since I didn't see much of an indication you were sheeping Mastina besides voting along side them. Or at least I don't think you characterized yourself that way in the previous day phase.

[jjh927]

Both of the opinions of mine you are highlighting relate directly to other people making arguments I disagree with