TM 2021 Large Normal 2: Wikipedia Integer Facts (Over)

[innocentvillager]

okapoka yells at infinity to ping Winter on discord to get Winter to move his vote, then this sequence of posts happens

I am here

what are the options? lld dgb and ythan?

I dont really like either of those options but if lld green flips we get more info I think is she at L-1?

this came at the same time, then there was a 6 hr gap until this post:

I popped back in because Infinity pinged me on discord after Oka asked him to?

and then he finally votes dgb

this is not how a scum hydra handles this interaction, imo

[innocentvillager]

Like, are you for nor against wagoning Ythan? Why? Do you think I'm trolling or serious? Do you think Oka is chainsawing a scum p or is his chicken head turn into an ostrich head and get burried down the ground?

im not sure about Ythan. I spent a chunk of time challenging Oka's case on him and trying to sort him D1 and got like, "lean-town" out of the interaction (i talk about it in my ISO), but im reconsidering as the scum density increases with 3 townflips

i don't see a great reason to wagon there atm but i think i would compromise there?

Also, where do you stand regarding the Vig holstering? If you disagree, who do you think they should hit? What do you think of the Babysitter?

i think Titus got visited by a Babysitter and that it's NAI for Titus's alignment, otherwise, im not really sure if i have many thoughts here

i will ask Gypyx, i know better than to give mechanical advice in Normal games and he's the setup guy on our team

[innocentvillager]

the pre-written post seems like a massive over-reaction to a d1 mis-elim. his plans dont alter at all with the new info on dgb-town.

i agree it seems like a bit of an overreaction, but why is it scum!indicative? how do you feel about my reaction to getting shade thrown on me earlier today, is that also scum!indicative?

"his plans don't alter" is potentially a fair point if true?

@Dunnstral

does/why doesn't DGB's flip make you reconsider your readslist?

[Xtoxm]

we've had you as solid tr for some time and ive seen nothing today to change that
i think its likely you've exited your scumrange, based on my perception of you as a person and what i know/heard abt your scum game

[Xtoxm]

how do you feel about my reaction to getting shade thrown on me earlier today, is that also scum!indicative?

i mean i dont think the two things are remotely comparable
dunn looks like he wants to take over and control the game going forward
you looked like you had an emotional rxn to being sr
whats the connection ?

[Cephrir]

Ah yes, let's still find a way for voting LLD to be a town tell somehow

you are really wasting a chance at an ally by doing this since you call me a higher tr and i tr you to, and i came into today planning to be a lot more compromising after lld-town

if ppl keep being shits i'll just be toxic back, vote a pet scumread and go lurk

im not here to play politics if you cant handle me expressing a point in a somewhat snarky way that's kinda on you my man

[Dunnstral]

the pre-written post seems like a massive over-reaction to a d1 mis-elim. his plans dont alter at all with the new info on dgb-town.

i agree it seems like a bit of an overreaction, but why is it scum!indicative? how do you feel about my reaction to getting shade thrown on me earlier today, is that also scum!indicative?

"his plans don't alter" is potentially a fair point if true?

@Dunnstral

does/why doesn't DGB's flip make you reconsider your readslist?

I am reconsidering; mainly due to the wagons. I still think a lot of the same things; DGB flipping town doesn't really clear anyone in my eyes, should I be thinking differently?

[innocentvillager]

how do you feel about my reaction to getting shade thrown on me earlier today, is that also scum!indicative?

i mean i dont think the two things are remotely comparable
dunn looks like he wants to take over and control the game going forward
you looked like you had an emotional rxn to being sr
whats the connection ?

i just thought they were both "overreactions" as called by various people so i was curious why you didn't comment on my reaction, but yeah i guess when you look at the potential motivations they can be pretty different

[Ythan]

To be clear I won't be offended if anyone calls me an anime girl that's why it's my avatar.

[Almost50]

VOTE: Luca???

Man why did we have to lose both my rocks day 1. The SS Warthog is left without a rudder.

You, sir, are officially demoted a tier in my reads. You were suggesting we elim jjh instead of Ythan (which I don't agree with but can understand and would not have fought against) but you decided to go for a third person based on someone else's reads?? Why?? Why is Luca now a better lim than jjh/Ythan??

[Ythan]

Oh it's you.

Ever acknowledge how much of your posting today has been predicated on completely failing to read the thread?

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Luca???

Man why did we have to lose both my rocks day 1. The SS Warthog is left without a rudder.

You, sir, are officially demoted a tier in my reads. You were suggesting we elim jjh instead of Ythan (which I don't agree with but can understand and would not have fought against) but you decided to go for a third person based on someone else's reads?? Why?? Why is Luca now a better lim than jjh/Ythan??

oh, say it ain't so!

perhaps you should consider reading my posts.

[Winter Flakes]

after a skim from d2 start to like page 134 or 135 a50 seems really off to me

[Cephrir]

maybe if i lose enough allies i can get elimed for my personality too! we can just go down the line!

[Luca Blight]

Luca Blight: Luca Blight himself has had some good comments, and some bad comments.

At the end of the day, he voted for LLD for some reason despite talking abotu DGB earlier

, and as LLD put it there were reasons for finding Hercule scummy that didn't go away. The slot I'm least sure of in black hole tier, so I put it at the end, but I do believe it needs to go sooner rather than later.

DGB was my biggest TR, what are you talking about?

[Winter Flakes]

also as for not voting lld I just thought she was more likely to green flip than dgb was even though I didn't really think dgb was scummy either. just more likely to flip red (even if odds were still low)

bell/titus/a50/any less active slot (yes including me) would've been better wagons for finding red than those two imo

though I do think lld flipping green does give us info though ill need to determine what that info is exactly

like what is mastina thinking rn after how that played out

[Winter Flakes]

also something pinging me awfully about a50 is they were talking about how last game they kinda just defaulted to a bad read on me and that I ended up obvtowning when they were scum but now this game apparently im a TR or at least a townlean even though I don't think ive done an awful lot deserving of one recently? seems like a slip up and mirrors what happened last game to an extent imo

[Winter Flakes]

wait fuck that was oka wasn't it?

[Winter Flakes]

disregard that whole point i think that was oka not a50

[Winter Flakes]

pretty sure IV is town here

[OkaPoka]

??? that aint me chief

[OkaPoka]

dunn is like never scum here why does it feel like me saying that is a controversial opinion

[OkaPoka]

also something pinging me awfully about a50 is they were talking about how last game they kinda just defaulted to a bad read on me and that I ended up obvtowning when they were scum but now this game apparently im a TR or at least a townlean even though I don't think ive done an awful lot deserving of one recently? seems like a slip up and mirrors what happened last game to an extent imo

thinking about this its literally not applicable to anyone?

[OkaPoka]

i hope the people above me aren't done catching up

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: mastina

Case me or die. I want to have this out. I may not respond right away but I want you solved. No more vague meta statements. If I am wrong on you, I should be able to see you having genuine logic here, even if wrong.

This feels like Titus knows a case on her in incoming and she's trying to preemptively discredit it.

Fuck it.

VOTE: Ythan

We still need that case from Mastina.

If she is so convinced and passionate about her Mastina read then I don't get why she is compromising already, especially after what ended up happening on D1 where most people compromised on wagons they weren't particularly keen on.

VOTE: Titus