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[Toogeloo]

up to page 5, grabbing food, thanks for the warm welcome everybody

so first why are all of the wagons on town based on the v/c

VOTE: pooky

aggressive and confident little fella this game ain't he

can we please eliminate this

Friendly reminder that willow is Grey's slot, and I have no problems with their lim.b

[willow1]

now that i'm caught up i'll chip in on mech

bb isn't that town anymore, really fixated on the pooky vote which was blatantly rvs. would say you're on the right track with denying scum power (given that they strengthen the longer they sit in pack) but need to weigh that against town power. also should be outing specific scum role in event you take it unless there is town utility in hiding, "rolestealer" stuff is bad since scum is all goons+any rolestealing card can't get played until n2.

toog is scummy imo, game should be solvable given that scum have to choose both who to pass to+shoot to deny packs, plenty of town compensation. despite the best attempt of gypyx fullclaiming packs day 2 is probably gamebreaking and worth full consideration.

pizza hydra is annoying but locktown after this

shadowslug asks great questions, also very skeptical of tris, probably town

gamma/nm are both gut town, gamma's reaction to the push was pretty nai though idk what people are smoking

no fucking clue re: pooky, mastina/lld similar, i'm not reading into your 2012 histories. lunar wasn't really notable to me outside of the dayvig stuff which was w/e. flea's reaction wasn't great to pizza but idk.

greyice completely missed the point of this.

I think Grey took it to 11 with the vote, and as of right now I'm a little suspicious of it as the attack seems more in the vein of trying to find anything to attack that can emulate scum hunting. I really don't see the scum motivation in Molla's post, but it's something that can easily be attacked, giving people who want a way to look active something to do.

greyice's response to this was way out the rails but this is a great way to say grey is trying to get out of RVS, scum motivation for molla's play (gambit/cover for use) was given by grey and toog straight up didn't care. i think it's +town for molla but don't exactly have to dig deep to find scum molla in it.

VOTE: tris shamelessly just going to sheep all of shadowslugs's points/questions, toog/bb in that order fine alternates imo

[willow1]

hey welcome dude are you an alt? noticed you have no games

yes. not going to say anything else b/c i want this to be a repeat acc so deal w/ it.

what do u mean about the wagons?

page 19 vc, saying pizza/bb/me were all town, only other slot with more than 1 vote was toog. both gut reads, bb less town now.

[willow1]

actually rolestealer concern is valid despite not being able to function until n2, scratch that

[willow1]

I think Grey took it to 11 with the vote, and as of right now I'm a little suspicious of it as the attack seems more in the vein of trying to find anything to attack that can emulate scum hunting. I really don't see the scum motivation in Molla's post, but it's something that can easily be attacked, giving people who want a way to look active something to do.

greyice's response to this was way out the rails but this is a great way to say grey is trying to get out of RVS, scum motivation for molla's play (gambit/cover for use) was given by grey and toog straight up didn't care. i think it's +town for molla but don't exactly have to dig deep to find scum molla in it.o

this whole angle is also pretty fucked when you realize that it actually took greyice awhile to swing the vote around, at first he just thought it was bad play

[Lunar Martian]

Willow seems to be blatantly buddying and trying to pocket. The takes are also a bit odd sometimes.

[BBmolla]

I think Grey took it to 11 with the vote, and as of right now I'm a little suspicious of it as the attack seems more in the vein of trying to find anything to attack that can emulate scum hunting. I really don't see the scum motivation in Molla's post, but it's something that can easily be attacked, giving people who want a way to look active something to do.

greyice's response to this was way out the rails but this is a great way to say grey is trying to get out of RVS, scum motivation for molla's play (gambit/cover for use) was given by grey and toog straight up didn't care. i think it's +town for molla but don't exactly have to dig deep to find scum molla in it.o

this whole angle is also pretty fucked when you realize that it actually took greyice awhile to swing the vote around, at first he just thought it was bad play

i think this is amished but maybe im misunderstanding

[Lunar Martian]

lunar ur recent posting seems slightly out of character. that "i feel like you're still town" line reads almost as submissive, like why do u care what toog thinks about your questioning? and your white knighting of mastina, considering u supposedly scumread her, seems a little performative

I'm trying this new thing where I say things in the thread instead of inside my head.

[Lunar Martian]

how did gamma get upgraded to obvtown for you? u were fossing them earlier.

Gamma isn't obvtown for me?

[Lunar Martian]

what is the reason for your scumread then? also i thought you said mastina gets a pass.

I didn't like Mastina's readlist. Mastina gets a pass for activity, not for content.

[Lunar Martian]

what do you mean by "out there" like those reads are ones you wouldn't expect from scum?

I wouldn't expect them from anyone. I find them surprising, and I don't see why Mafia would go out of their way to violate the consensus.

[Toogeloo]

I'm trying this new thing where I say things in the thread instead of inside my head.

The best way to play.

[Lunar Martian]

so does toog have scum motivation to push on mastina for that or what? also i find it strange how people you scumread/townread can do townie/scummy things respectively and this doesn't budge your read on them. why are your conclusions so confident if your read on them is in more of a grey area?

Toog doesn't seem to have scum motivation. I say things even when they don't change my view because it helps inform other people of my thought process. Noteworthy things are noteworthy even if they're only noteworthy because I think they're potentially scummy but not actually scummy. It moves the game along and puts my thoughts in the thread.

[willow1]

i think this is amished but maybe im misunderstanding

not familiar with the term

Willow seems to be blatantly buddying and trying to pocket. The takes are also a bit odd sometimes.

first is valid, leaving it at takes being odd does nothing

[Lunar Martian]

i think this is amished but maybe im misunderstanding

not familiar with the term

Willow seems to be blatantly buddying and trying to pocket. The takes are also a bit odd sometimes.

first is valid, leaving it at takes being odd does nothing

I'm not trying to paint you as Mafia. I'm just noting a few things and watching. Why are you trying to pocket people?

[Flea The Magician]

@MOD V/LA update, pain flare has mostly passed, however health is still unstable. I'm going to try and be fully active, but meds posting is as it does

Spoiler: Catchup

apparently you're now scum for claiming to do that

nice try, but the issue is your caginess making little sense

how does it make little sense and explain the difference between me doing and flea doing it in response to me doing it

Things happened last night and my memory has gone naff.
I remember seeing anti-town and the packs move, I did a mechanics review and it made sense why I had a 1-shot ninja ability. You claim anti-town utility. I don't remember seeing what you claimed, just that anti-town abilities should be burned. Knowing that Ninja means I can't be tracked, I know I need to declare it so Action Investigatives don't waste their investigations on me. Doesn't make me immune to other investigations and multiple kills tonight will require claiming tomorrow and place me firmly in the firing line.

Your desire to not claim powers doesn’t mesh with softing the sort of thing you did
And Flea actually claimed faer power, so there’s a level of honesty from fae that you didn’t display

Do you have knowledge about scum powers?

Do we know for sure they can’t steal powers?

Mafia control the pack rotation. So if they rotate around and get a free vig shot, then sweet merciful ravens maf gets a double kill.
They can steal powers, if we claim them. So nobody claims anything other than and antitown utility they are willing to lock themselves into to using that night.

But why does mastina, who doesn't have internet, come into the game thread when she does have internet, to tell us repeatedly she won't have internet? And does she not have a phone, or is she hitting her data limits? The game ain't very long, if you are gonna come in and post something anyways, don't remind us that you are still V/LA.

As for Pooky or pizza, they are the top two posters, and as far as I can tell neither have done anything particularly scummy that anyone has bothered to case.

CONTENTWARNING: BODY FUNCTIONS.

So what about me then? I'm in a few games and posting despite the sidewide V/LA and trust me I can give you great detail about my pain, gastrointestinal issues and my recent A&E visit

Mastina has internet problems when there's bad weather, and it's good to have the updates honestly because I like knowing she's OK. She doesn't make a secret of this and I've seen others get grief for posting on V/LA before. Why'd you think it's in my signature too that happens to be conveniently placed at the end of every post?
C'mon toogs you're better than this.

Ok I won't be voting without my whole hydra agreeing because the other heads have expressed dissatisfaction with it but my top SRs are currently BBmolla and Toog.
BBmolla is a scumassfuck but for some reason infinity doesn't agree with me on it. His tone is just horrible.
Toog has never done this much on day 1 before. And all these TRs being given out feel hella unnatural.

I'd be willing to flash wagon both asap if the other heads agree. Infinity doesn't agree with BB SR. Murder doesn't agree with Toog SR. I forgot what infinity said about Toog.

Flea moved up.
Lunar moved down. Other heads don't agree but I think Lunar's being really weird.
Hydra agrees on a tris scum read for her reads that keep changing for no reason.
Uh and yeah this was three days worth of content don't prod me until three days later :3

I'm all alone no one agrees with my SRs life is good >.<

Told you the madness would return

*offers some sammiches and caffine explosions*

Murder agrees with me but infinity isnt convinced.

Downside to the triple headed beasts

lol imagine force replacing someone over a holiday weekend without a prod. gyp dude you crazy

there was a prod, and fuck, a holiday week? stop making me feel even worse man i already regret this

... New moon is a holiday week? I know its Lunar new year... uhm that I know of not many people celebrate Lupercalia these days, people tend to get upset about the brutality...
Am I missing something?

Still need to read Molla.

[Toogeloo]

Feels like a 7 player game lol.

[willow1]

not, phrasing of question makes me think you're referring to tacking onto shadowslug, earlier posts make it obvious what i think about tris, don't need to copy/paste or restate basically same things. if not referring to shadow you're voting my only real townread

valid perspective =/= reality

[willow1]

512 re: toog is just bad but w/e work through it

[willow1]

get that you're hyperposting, way to punish scum doing same is to force them to justify bullshit

ie. what takes are odd and why

[Lunar Martian]

not, phrasing of question makes me think you're referring to tacking onto shadowslug, earlier posts make it obvious what i think about tris, don't need to copy/paste or restate basically same things. if not referring to shadow you're voting my only real townread

valid perspective =/= reality

I'm not sure I understand this post. Did some of it get deleted?

get that you're hyperposting, way to punish scum doing same is to force them to justify bullshit

ie. what takes are odd and why

Sometimes I just like to watch for a while before really joining in.

[willow1]

it's complete, referring to buddying question

thanks for playing big brain keepaway instead of just answering, going to be very fun to read

[Lunar Martian]

You are most welcome.

[BBmolla]

i think this is amished but maybe im misunderstanding

not familiar with the term

Willow seems to be blatantly buddying and trying to pocket. The takes are also a bit odd sometimes.

first is valid, leaving it at takes being odd does nothing

if a player criticizes the person they replaced they're scum

the logic is a player knows the player they replaced is town and wouldn't bother reading through their posts, but first thing scum does when they replace in is iso their former selves to see how fucked they are

idk if what you did qualifies so I'm meh on it

[Lunar Martian]

it's complete, referring to buddying question

thanks for playing big brain keepaway instead of just answering, going to be very fun to read

Insisting on me providing details on exactly why I suspect you is also strange. If you're Town the reasons must be wrong and so I'll probably realize it in time, right?