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[innocentvillager]

so why is a50 still voting ythan?

idk he hasn't addressed it, let's wait for his response I guess? he's made 3 posts since his realization

iirc A50 isn't like, super intentional and urgent with his vote necessarily

maybe slightly +scum as you said but I don't know if it's that strong for me. why is this that scum!indicative? you think town!A50 necessarily immediately unvotes just from that?

[Dunnstral]

Does it matter whether he dumbtold or not when it's about whether a third party role can be in the game?

[innocentvillager]

he was also pretty parked on Ythan all of yesterday and didn't come back to vote DGB/LLD, so I don't see why town!A50 necessarily feels that much urgency to move his vote

[OkaPoka]

id imagine if your case on someone falls apart because you are being silly then maybe you would be like oh

maybe ill take a good ol step back

but then again i do not know what is going on with a50

however weird a50 is being, what others see in him also puzzles me

[Ythan]

Have pointedly asked him to address it twice and still awaiting feedback. I don't think moving my vote at this moment is going to make that feedback MORE forthcoming.

[innocentvillager]

Does it matter whether he dumbtold or not when it's about whether a third party role can be in the game?

yes because they have probably talked about the vig in the scum PT

to which A50 probably would've been like, "how do you know there's no SK?"

and his partners would've pointed it out to him

it is potentially possible the Ythan/A50 interaction just happened first temporally, so I'm not that sure

[OkaPoka]

meh he voted ythan to compromise or something

also he didnt open with a ythan vote he waited and used ioa

idk dude it doesnt make sense

i scumread both, my reaction is ????????????????????????????????????????????

[innocentvillager]

he was also pretty parked on Ythan all of yesterday

don't want to misrep, he parked on Ythan the last few days of D1

[Ythan]

Oka selling me more on my own vote with every post.

[Almost50]

pls explain how your system works

I list all possible formations of a 4-members scum team and then look for posts that are unlikely to come from a partner. For example, let's say X makes a post about Y that is really offensive and Y reports them, or that X & Y are run up and are at 6 votes each and then Z decides to to switch from voting X to voting Y. I would deduce Y isn't partners with X or Z (or let's say very unlikely to be), so I eliminate all teams that would include Y with either/or X/Z as partners.

Serious hint: DON'T DO IT. It's VERY wearisome, and you're likely to make a mistake that would force you to either repeat from the start or simply call it quits.

OR explain why you think there's 3 scum instead of the 4-5 you'd expect at these numbers?

This one I don't understand so can't respond to, Where did I say there are only 3 scums?

i don't think i like anyone who has confident readlists immediately after the day starts (except Dunn) because why would you reread at night

I don't care what you like/dislike. I play my own way and not to please you (or anyone else), with all due respect.

I also don't know how to feel about the last part (because why would you reread at night). I want to win the game, and I have a flip by the end of the day (something I didn't have all through the game while the day lasted) so why the hell

wouldn't

I reread with the new info for who pushed whom at what time.. etc.? Even during twilight (which I didn't even witness, but theoretically speaking..) I still wouldn't have known -for sure- the alignment of the eliminated player, so can't deduce much from someone's push on them or someone's defence of them.

So, a reread during the night in a LARGE game which I CARE about winning sounds like a must-do to me. I'm surprised YOU didn't do that, tbh.

[Ythan]

Oh good.

[OkaPoka]

hey a50 how were you so sure there were only 4 groupscum but not in the nonexistence of an sk

[innocentvillager]

meh he voted ythan to compromise or something

also he didnt open with a ythan vote he waited and used ioa

idk dude it doesnt make sense

i scumread both, my reaction is ????????????????????????????????????????????

let's just wait for

@A50

to talk in depth about his Ythan read, it's probably not productive for me to defend him like this

i do think i see where you are coming from

[Ythan]

hey a50 how were you so sure there were only 4 groupscum but not in the nonexistence of an sk

Ooh show me this surety of four pls.

[innocentvillager]

I list all possible formations of a 4-members scum team

right here

[Almost50]

A50 were the multiple pages of you not getting the setup you joking or serious?

I was serious, but let's not start that again. I brain farted and had two separate thought processes going on in the back of my mind in parallel and they never intersected. (parallel

lines

thoughts never meet)

[Ythan]

I list all possible formations of a 4-members scum team

right here

Yaaaaas

[OkaPoka]

if you are talking to me iv im asking him why he knows that the scum team is 4 members when he didnt know that there wasnt an sk

[innocentvillager]

if you are talking to me iv im asking him why he knows that the scum team is 4 members when he didnt know that there wasnt an sk

yeah I thought Ythan was asking where A50 was being sure of 4 scum so I just quoted it for him. could've misunderstood

[Ythan]

My vote has become ironclad for the foreseeable future but I'll probably still check out that Titus wagon because why not.

IV you were exactly right.

[OkaPoka]

i am so sad this is the conversation we are having tbh

[Almost50]

how has nobody gone through all the wagons and counterwagons yet?

THAT is part of why a reread during the night is a must. Whether you vocalize your thoughts explicitly or use them to form reads is your own choice.

[Ythan]

Hi from the past future a50 whenever you read this.

[innocentvillager]

if anyone wants to start a new conversation? why is cephrir town

[OkaPoka]

nah we aren't going to discuss that