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[AGar]

@A50

So the theory you're yeeting into the universe is that Oka is scum because Oka is expending energy to push away from a Ythan-buddy yeet, correct?

[Ythan]

Oh I feel it...

[AGar]

I swear to fuck if he just dawdled off while I'm up at 3:45 in the morning...

[OkaPoka]

poor agar has just missed out on how the kids these days like their ms.net

all real time interactions baby its like a chat room

[AGar]

Oka I am trying to do the real time thing and A50 is just *GONE*

[Almost50]

if the people i need to flip ythan are no longer going to vote ythan then its not happening. lld voters arent going to swap.

LLD had SIX VOTES AT THE TIME. That leaves TWELVE other votes (including yours) which was 2 more than needed to get the job done. Furthermore, "assuming" people won't switch isn't good play either. Evidently LLD was wagoned early game and then the hercule wagon overtook it. She was wagoned again mid-day and the worst took over. She was wagoned a third time and Ythan made it to E-2. Why would you assume "4th time is lucky charm" (so to speak)?

I don't even know what you're angry about right now to be honest. Whatever point you are trying to make is lost in just *words*

You were complaining I wasn't playing the game. Now you're upset I am??

Let me try to simplify it for you: Oka's top SR "was" Ythan at one point on D1. He voted there and soon the wagon went up to 8 votes, then started to dissipate due to a wagon on Titus (at the time both LLD & DGB were also being wagoned from before). Now why would someone who SRs Ythan so much quit on that wagon AS SOON AS ANOTHER WAGON is equal to it? And why is that someone (Oka) now DEFENDING Ythan, while -simultaneously- claiming to be OK to wagon him again?

And why did he overlook the fact that I did SR Ythan myself from yesterday, and started the day with a read list that had Ythan at the very bottom of it? Why did he discredit my vote on Ythan and claim it was for one specific post?

If this wasn't TM I would have probably handled things so much differently (this is to say you all should be thankful it

is

TM).

Go ISO Oka vs Ythan and tell me if they do not appear to be chainsawing each other whenever necessary. Go ISO Ythan and tell me that's not a Scum slot to begin with.

Do you have any specific questions for me still?

[Ythan]

Please answer AGar's question I wanna hear his follow-up.

[OkaPoka]

i literally said your reasons for ythan checks out...

if you think its all about investigative whatever i guess, fine ill concede there

and if its all about patience sure

but like pushing me + ythan is just so random

like am i really chainsawing ythan? ive made my position on ythan clear. if dunn moves there im moving there. im not defending ythan, im saying ur push is just so bad it makes life for a scum ythan easy. its just way too flawed and too ridic where im doubting your sincerity

[AGar]

You were complaining I wasn't playing the game. Now you're upset I am??

I have never said this once. Idk who you're mixing me up with.

Aaaanyways, the rest of the Ythan wagon didn't kick up until LLD moved to get consolidation amongst those of us on some vanity wagons. Then it petered out around 8 votes, fell apart, and people shifted to Titus.

I would like you to answer 3750, directly, and specifically. You haven't done that much here.

[Ythan]

like am i really chainsawing ythan? ive made my position on ythan clear. if dunn moves there im moving there. im not defending ythan, im saying ur push is just so bad it makes life for a scum ythan easy. its just way too flawed and too ridic where im doubting your sincerity

This is a TOTALLY ACCURATE AND COMPLETE DESCRIPTION of a50's Oka case.

[Almost50]

YOU were leading the wagon on Ythan yesterday.

Narrator: Oka was not, in fact, leading the Ythan wagon yesterday.

No?? The mod must've lied to us all then. *Smirk*

You see, THIS was the FIRST TIME Ythan's name appeared on a VC (as being votED)

Vote Count 1.18

Ythan

(2): OkaPoka, Cephrir

And THIS was the VERY NEXT VC (posted just over 20 hours from the one above):

Vote Count 1.19

Ythan

(8): OkaPoka, Luca Blight, Dannflor, Cephrir, Lady Lambdadelta, Titus, AGar, innocentvillager

Wait! What is the definition of "leading the wagon" in your dictionary? Maybe yours is different than mine.

[Almost50]

im panicking what? im saying your push of me + ythan makes no sense

If it makes no sense it makes no sense. Tough. But why does that make you side by your claimed SR still?

[AGar]

Use your god damned p-edit and you'd see that I pointed out the Ythan wagon didn't kick up until LLD got involved and there was discussion of consolidation.

[Ythan]

If it makes no sense it makes no sense.

Why the hell did you join this game

[OkaPoka]

If it makes no sense it makes no sense.

Why the hell did you join this game

i actually cannot believe he said this

and i probably need to stop reading your posts because i like them too much but also its just too easy for you now.

im standing by ythan in the sense that im opposing you a50. im willing to flip ythan. he's still in my cull pile.

[AGar]

Fuck, I gotta go to bed.

@A50

Just fucking answer 3750 straight up before I wake up in like 4 and a half hours.

[OkaPoka]

real time interactions just hit different dont they agar

maybe you will be converted

[Ythan]

Fuck, I gotta go to bed.

@A50

Just fucking answer 3750 straight up before I wake up in like 4 and a half hours.

If my experience is any indication save your breath.

[Almost50]

ive scumread ythan every step of the way but your treatment of me n ythan is like just way too ridiculous at this point

AGAIN: If you

truly

SR'd Ythan you would have been pushing HIM still. NO TOWNIE would ever care if they're being pushed as partners with an UNFLIPPED SCUMREAD. They would still go for their SR first and THEN (if/when they do actually flip red) they'd try to defend themselves.

Your panicking because you look afraid of flipping Ythan because you already know he is Scum. How do you know? Because you're his partner. And if you were smart enough you would have still pushed HIM anyway to nhave something to fall back on (watch me tutor you on how to play Scum, Scum)

Now let's assume the BEST CASE for you: I flip green, the Vig shoots in you/Ythan and Town eliminate the other tomorrow. I'm fine with that trade, although I very much doubt it would even come to that.

[Ythan]

Boooooooooo

[Ythan]

AGAIN: If you truly SR'd Ythan you would have been pushing HIM still. NO TOWNIE would ever care if they're being pushed as partners with an UNFLIPPED SCUMREAD. They would still go for their SR first and THEN (if/when they do actually flip red) they'd try to defend themselves.

This it's just straight up shit and not true

[Almost50]

plus its entirely unhelpful to anyone trying to sort ythan because you are literally teeing him up and giving him the easiest soundbites

Oka, I'm sorry, but I have no other alternative but to call you an

outright liar

. I have stopped responding to Ythan more than 24 hours ago (ever since I reported his post to both implosion and then listmods). For you to claim >I< am "teeing him up" is absurd. Are you sure you're reading THIS thread and not the SCUM PT?

[Ythan]

Your panicking because you look afraid of flipping Ythan because you already know he is Scum. How do you know? Because you're his partner. And if you were smart enough you would have still pushed HIM anyway to nhave something to fall back on (watch me tutor you on how to play Scum, Scum)

This is you shaping a narrative to fit your attacks

[Ythan]

Now let's assume the BEST CASE for you: I flip green, the Vig shoots in you/Ythan and Town eliminate the other tomorrow. I'm fine with that trade, although I very much doubt it would even come to that.

This is pointless bleating

[OkaPoka]

you dont have to talk to ythan to tee him up if ur going to make bad cases then ythan doesnt really have to do much does he

also i care about you pushing me n ythan because its a bad push