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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:29 am

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Spoiler:
In post 723, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 714, Dumb and Dumber wrote:VOTE: MURDERKITTY

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In post 715, PenguinPower wrote:GAHAHA IT’S HAPPENING!!!!

VOTE: murderkitty
wut
In post 802, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also can someone come up with a good reason for MCat being scum or is this just because he’s not a TR yet
I feel like most games MCat gets pressed early as town
In post 818, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 813, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
In post 782, Gamma Emerald wrote:I’m sorry but I can’t have fun in mafia games as town, Cakez? Is that what you’re saying?
I actually feel like I vibed pretty hard in a game murder and infinity were both in
That's obviously not what I was getting at and I'm not sure why you're taking it that way

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I felt like it was the start of a bad-faith push
In post 994, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 985, PenguinPower wrote:Because murdercat is a much better wagon and an nm wagon is the epitome of lazy voting.
what about murdercat
you guys are probably way off base on him, he very often gets wagoned early like this as town rather than as scum
how can I not see the votes on murdercat as just a little bit lazy
In post 1019, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1012, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:Very conflicted. I think his posting isolated is very scummy but I also can buy his excuse that he was burned out by the BooneyToonz game and I did like his post where he cased Penguin. Would yeet in lack of other better wagons.
Here’s the thing: you ALSO saw what happened in Among Us. Tell me Murder’s play/reception differs from that game at all.
In post 1024, Gamma Emerald wrote:If you believe me about murdercat being a miselim why do you think I’m scum?
In post 1026, Gamma Emerald wrote:MURDERCAT [6, E-3] outworldER, Akarin, xRECKONERx, alisae, sircakez, battle mage (thegoldenparadox)
The only scum on this in that game, SirCakez, voted around the middle of what was need to lim
NM is in the same place if murdercat is a miselim this game
So like, how is my NM vote bad given that?
In post 1036, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don’t think murdercat’s play is substantially different from that game/any of his other town games, and the fact he’s getting early pressure to this degree tells me he’s town
In booneytoonz XV I recall there was a D1 wagon on him but it was rather short-lived
Meanwhile like, every other town game I’ve seen from him he’s been rather suspected. So imo the trend is “if murdercat gets sussed a lot early he is town”
In post 1062, Gamma Emerald wrote:And honestly the biggest issue I fucking have is that MURDERCAT GETS TOWNIER AS THE GAME PROGRESSES AS TOWN. ELIMINATING HIM EARLY IS LEGITIMATELY SHIT PLAY.
In post 1092, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1090, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:
In post 1084, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 1074, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:@infinity
catboi’s post sums up most of it I think, have you read and responded to this?

Actually just looked at your ISO and you don’t seem to have mentioned this post at all, which is interesting because this is probably the biggest scumcase on murder so far, and you seemingly hard townread this slot before catboi replaced in. Is there a reason you haven’t responded to catboi on murder or engaged with catboi at all?

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I read the post, it didn't really do anything for me. Most of it is like, murder is making lazy pushes and reasoning because he's kinda being lazy this game. If you're interested I can respond to it in more depth
I don’t really need a response to the points in particular.

I find the argument “murder could be lazy as town” to just be not very appealing. Like, anyone can be lazy as town. They can also just be scum. Yall are saying murder is lazy!town here. Gamma says he’s lazy!town. NM is lazy as both alignments. Everyone else is putting in effort. who do we elim then if everyone suspicious just says they’re being lazy town? there needs to be a line drawn somewhere. as a side note, I also intensely dislike the concept of sandbagging on principle. like, just play the game you signed up for. if you plan to not play the game, then don’t come crying when you get pressured for it.

you say let’s wagon NM but that is the easiest elimination of all time. I’m not concerned about deepwolf!NM. I am concerned about other players skating by because “oh they’re just lazy town.” like if NM is where the wagon ends up, fine, but I think that’s an absolute last resort. there are three scum, so I’m going to keep trying to figure out who the team is. both you and gamma do not seem to care that there would be two other scum.

- Daenerys
yes, there are three scum
atm I don't think murdercat is any of them
NM could be, so could others but I haven't probed for them yet
I don't like the way you try to act like because there's three scum it invalidates our concerns about the murdercat lim and those pushing it
In post 1094, Gamma Emerald wrote:finished Murdercat games informing my perspective here

Booneytoonz XV - mafia (traitor), survived
Among Us - town, survived
Micro 977 - town, survived
Micro 983 - town, survived
Mini Normal 2170 - town, limmed D1
Open 796 (haunted village) - town, survived

If you look at how murdercat got through all of those games you'll see a very consistent trend of town!murdercat getting pushed early and/or often
In post 1105, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1096, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1094, Gamma Emerald wrote:If you look at how murdercat got through all of those games you'll see a very consistent trend of town!murdercat getting pushed early and/or often
but see:
In post 1070, PenguinPower wrote:And my issue is you can't say that he doesn't as scum so it's nai. Stop relying solely on meta for which you don't have an established comparison.
I'm saying your perspective on murdercat is way smaller than mine or infinity's, and as such you should listen to what I'm saying, which is to give him time since he becomes stronger as town further along in the game, and I think based on how things have developed he is town
I'm not just metaing murdercat, I'm metaing the scenario
In post 1183, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1180, Salsabil Faria wrote:(i) Can you explain more about 347, 372 and 472? I don't understand.

(ii) Why did you think Dumb and Dumber's was okay (refer: 653)?

(iii) What is your current read about Infinity 324 (refer: 824)?

(iv) Reason (refer: 984)?
347 I was asking a small question to feel infinity out and I felt he responded in a way that made more waves, which felt towny
372 I felt their interaction was a bit of distancing (which now that I remember that I'm probably gonna have to retrace my steps and see how I really feel in that front)
472 I had gut pings from GC so I was like "this
might
be a good expression what I'm feeling"

dumbo's townblock seemed okay because shadowslug seemed genuine, so did infinity, and I was okay letting you be included

I still read infinity as town, though I had some hazy doubts earlier

I voted NM because on some level I was conscious of scum liking being on murdercat around that point in the wagon and I also wanted to vote with infinity

as for the murdercat question, I presume he could imitate those behaviors but it would probably be hard for him
I especially think it would be hard for him to act towny in later days

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mod- I added a spoiler tag per player request
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:29 am

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wtf?
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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:30 am

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VOTE: MURDERCAT
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:30 am

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Pingu you always do this
Also, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.
I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:10 pm

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Gamma emerald has requested replacement. Search will go out when I get home.
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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:51 pm

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:roll:
"This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is 'actually' innocent." In re Davis, 557 U.S. 952, 955 (2009) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:51 pm

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Got the MC elim tho.
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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:53 pm

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Let's wait for the flip.
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:03 pm

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MURDERCAT
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- PenguinPower, Dumb and Dumber, catboi, Gamma Emerald, Infinity 324, Not_Mafia
Gamma Emerald
{3}
- Daenerys and Dragons, YyottaCat, Green Crayons
PenguinPower
{1}
- MURDERCAT

Not voting
{1}
- Salsabil Faria

Votes needed to Eliminate:
{6}
. Deadline for Day 1 is Saturday, February 13 at 2 PM EDT, or in (expired on 2021-02-13 16:00:00).

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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:05 pm

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MURDERCAT has been eliminated. He was a
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Night 1's time will start after I find a replacement. I have reached out to people who wished to replace in prior, if I do not get a response by the morning I will hit the queue.
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:32 am

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Menalque replaces Gamma Emerald. Night will end on Monday, February 15 at 10:30 AM EST.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-02-15 10:30:00)
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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:50 am

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Bumping deadline a day, I forgot I won’t be around tomorrow.

Will be the 16th and will edit accordingly when I’m home
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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:48 am

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PenguinPower has died over the night. They were a
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:49 am

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Not voting
{9}
- Not_Mafia, Infinity 324, Menalque, Dumb and Dumber, catboi, Green Crayons, Salsabil Faria, YyottaCat, Daenerys and Dragons

Votes needed to Eliminate:
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. Deadline for Day 1 is Tuesday, March 2nd at 10:30 AM EDT, or in (expired on 2021-03-02 10:30:00).

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Salsabil Faria is V/LA until 2/17.
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:53 am

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VOTE: Infinity 324
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:56 am

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Hi mena!!!!

VOTE: mena

Unfortunately we think ur slot has super high scum equity

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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:05 am

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Willing to say the hydras are town, salsabil is prob town, wish I had a 4th name I was comfortable with...I think GC is okay, has some interactions with murdercat that look non-partner-y but wouldn't bet the game on that read, necessarily.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:08 am

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Why does gamma stick his neck out to defend his buddy in the way he did of the buddy wasn't the bomb?
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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:20 am

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Who's scum, Infinity?
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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:31 am

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Idk
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:33 am

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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:39 am

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@infinity
My half-baked theory is that gamma is the bomb

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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:42 am

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That makes even less sense :/

It was pretty clear no other CW was gaining traction, I don't get why gamma makes himself look awful trying to defend murder esp if he's bomb
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:51 am

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In post 1465, Dumb and Dumber wrote:Unfortunately we think ur slot has super high scum equity
Hi skitt!!

Can u tell me y tho
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:11 am

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Well if the choices are bomb-gamma or goon-mc gamma is ultimately going to fold and vote mc, right?

He was obviously p reluctant to get on mc at all

Also @mena i have a p strong townpool and gamma never was townie, so he was p firmly outside of it. And i dislike his interactions with mc/mc's wagon, in that he tried to avoid it for a p long time

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