Mini Theme 2194 : Draft Mafia | Endgame

[clidd]

Agenda in the sense that it seemed like he planned the way the reads would happen instead of saying it organically. This is a personal take, so I won't be surprised if you don't see it.

[clidd]

Pooky reflects me more as apathetic scum than apathetic town and I saw no reason to think otherwise at the moment.

[Klick]

Going to bed now but I'll do some quick responses

@Gamma I vaguely remember thinking you were obvtown in BooneyToonz XIV but not really why, if you get bored tonight you could go back and explain that bit in more detail in the context of that game. If not I'll have a look at it tomorrow, so no pressure.

Not really sure what people are on about with the agenda stuff, so if anyone wants that addressed they're gonna have to elaborate.

say more on the bolded? what similarities do you think we share based on that 1 post?

One of my most frequently used towntells is 'does this person actually want people to think they're town?'. I rarely see people approaching the game from this angle but it makes a lot of sense to me as a solving tool. You also seem willing to commit to reads based on a small amount of evidence that you find compelling (as opposed to feeling the need to have a large body of work).

Night yall

[clidd]

If someone thinks he's town, however, feel free to engage with me.

pedit: Hello, Mr agenda.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky isn't a lhf, he knows how to play the game on a high level if he wants to. I'm sure that he can say something else besides "pizza".


Pooky isn't a lhf, he knows how to play the game on a high level if he wants to. I'm sure that he can say something else besides "pizza".

i have never bussed a teammate on d1 in 17 years of playing on this site

or in any games i've played off this site.

so when pizza flips red

you will know I am green

it is that simple.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky reflects me more as apathetic scum than apathetic town and I saw no reason to think otherwise at the moment.

ill be perfectly honest with you

I signed up for this game to shoot the shit with greyice, LLD joining up was a secondary bonus.

I've already caught pizza scum

if you guys all decide to elim me instead of pizza scum

i really could care less.

[clidd]

VOTE: We brought pizza

Ok, let's try this then.

[Flea The Magician]

You're failing my vibe check, but you're pro-active.

Going to bed now but I'll do some quick responses

@Gamma I vaguely remember thinking you were obvtown in BooneyToonz XIV but not really why, if you get bored tonight you could go back and explain that bit in more detail in the context of that game. If not I'll have a look at it tomorrow, so no pressure.

Not really sure what people are on about with the agenda stuff, so if anyone wants that addressed they're gonna have to elaborate.

say more on the bolded? what similarities do you think we share based on that 1 post?

One of my most frequently used towntells is 'does this person actually want people to think they're town?'. I rarely see people approaching the game from this angle but it makes a lot of sense to me as a solving tool. You also seem willing to commit to reads based on a small amount of evidence that you find compelling (as opposed to feeling the need to have a large body of work).

Night yall

My brain is failing to understand your hunting method, and others want me to point at my location while laughing.
I will take the majority of the vote, and point at my location

Pooky reflects me more as apathetic scum than apathetic town and I saw no reason to think otherwise at the moment.

ill be perfectly honest with you

I signed up for this game to shoot the shit with greyice, LLD joining up was a secondary bonus.

I've already caught pizza scum

if you guys all decide to elim me instead of pizza scum

i really could care less.

Preach to me pooky bear, reveal to me your mysticisms!

[BBmolla]

shadowslug seems town

[BBmolla]

agree with the people saying bbmolla is town, has me as scum but doesn't push the amished tell more forcefully. don't think molla really holds that back.

conveniently same reads as predecessor

think this is an oversimplification, might be worth revieiwing

someone is going to have to sell me on toog town because his engagement with greyice did not seem in good faith from the start

, saying this as someone who regularly takes the same line of attack (pressing on the first person to press) as mafia. joke about mafia all repping out also felt forced to me but pretty dumb to put stock in that.

you say that and then keep doing weird shit in your post

[BBmolla]

am I reading the same game as you guys

[BBmolla]

idk where you guys are getting your reads from

VOTE: We brought pizza

[BBmolla]

Pooky reflects me more as apathetic scum than apathetic town and I saw no reason to think otherwise at the moment.

ill be perfectly honest with you

I signed up for this game to shoot the shit with greyice, LLD joining up was a secondary bonus.

I've already caught pizza scum

if you guys all decide to elim me instead of pizza scum

i really could care less.

full speed on pizza lets go choo choo

[We brought pizza]

Molla you were just on about how no one has given reasoning for voting pooky but has literally anyone explained why they're voting us

-Infinity

[clidd]

After a reread on Pizza, the teamwork there is just terrible and seems fake. Many ping-pongs on Pooky that doesn't make much sense.

Nora didn't give me any impression of being town and that is extraordinarily worrying.

[We brought pizza]

That's a start at least, what about it didn't make sense

-Infinity

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if this hydra was town there's no way most of the posts would be coming from infinity rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like murdercatto and noraa are two of the most POSTHAPPY town players in mafia scum history

you think they take a backseat to infinity if this a town hydra?

[We brought pizza]

Nora didn't give me any impression of being town and that is extraordinarily worrying.

I never push pooky day 1 as scum. that's such a shitty move to pull when I know very clearly that pooky never dies day 1 literally regardless of his alignment. He can do nothing and live on anyways. Tunneling myself there is one of the stupidest choices scum could make.

You don't have high accuracy reading me btw. I have many alts.

[We brought pizza]

like murdercatto and noraa are two of the most POSTHAPPY town players in mafia scum history

you think they take a backseat to infinity if this a town hydra?

You realize Murder literally complained to us about how he wanted to roll scum when we got the roll pm right?

[We brought pizza]

Lol, we're hydra'ing for a reason

-Infinity

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok what did you think my goal was when I pushed noraa on d1 lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I never push pooky day 1 as scum. that's such a shitty move to pull when I know very clearly that pooky never dies day 1 literally regardless of his alignment. He can do nothing and live on anyways. Tunneling myself there is one of the stupidest choices scum could make.

You don't have high accuracy reading me btw. I have many alts.

lol what I die d1 all the time what r u even talking about

[clidd]

@Pizza

Spoiler:

If pooky town, he'll locktown me sometime day 1

Murder thinks ur scum for not asking for a hero solve.

Also I dont think shadowslug is hectic because they're an alt of fairy princess which is some random other alt made in like 2017 or something...

So far it has been entirely and completely Noraa and I'll force infinity to sign posts so that will work out.

Are you on crack or scum, pooky?

VOTE: Pooky

shoo pooky, tris and I are 1v1'ing to the deaths in a fierce battle right now

noraa u shouldve let murdercatto do the opening

he doesn't have pizza either and im more cute so my openings are better >.<

Shadow feels towny

I disagree with infinity's TR on shadow.

Also odd from Gamma. You just said you don't believe my claim. Now you do believe it and think I should be protected? What?

Here’s a tip: one of those posts was manufactured.

Not sure I follow.

Shadow, Noraa, pooky team. GG.

So quick to retract your gamma SR?

Tris' questioning of gamma felt a bit performative, especially in comparison to shadow's, but it's kind of a weak read and I wanted to see how she would follow up.

-Infinity

explain? and how did you townread me so quick infinity, i'm not sure i did anything quite so townie yet

The way you were questioning gamma felt like you were trying to get inside his head, whereas the way tris was questioning him (in 154) made it seem like she was trying to appear like she was trying to get in gamma's head I guess. I also thought where you said "I don't want to talk all mechanics but I'm not sure how to move the game forward" was a very newbtown thing to say

-Infinity

Pooky what is with you

-Infinity

a swap is not a mafia term that I am aware exists and anything strange sounding has a 50-50 chance of being scum TMI

Pooky/shadowslug/BBmolla

game solved.
I can post useless herosolves on day 1 too.

Is pooky scum, BBmolla?

Pooky/BB/____

I mean it's not, I just got townvibes from both sides

-Infinity

Also odd from Gamma. You just said you don't believe my claim. Now you do believe it and think I should be protected? What?

This seemed to imply a scumread, and I'm not convinced the answer he gave sufficed for you, especially since you didn't understand it

-Infinity

in what ways did my questioning give off that impression?

Just the wording I guess? The way you said it made it feel like you were trying to show how confused you were. I'm not sure how else to describe it, or really what you were hoping to accomplish with this question

-Infinity

I'll be really bummed out if pooky thinks im scum and is town tbh.

Is GreyICE a flavorleaf alt or something

So, mystery hydra, what's your deal? You've got the most posts in thread by a mile, but calling them disorganized would be an insult to disorganized. You chat in your hydra QT?

Yeah, uh, we're still working things out obviously. I've been trying to get noraa to talk to me before she posts a read I disagree with, and I'm not the most experienced hydra user either, I expect we'll make more sense as the game goes on.

-Infinity

why do you keep flipping ur reads around tris?

I hope you're doing ok gamma

Fwiw I think RQS is underrated, it can have its applications

-Infinity

Woah. No.

VOTE: Flea

Pooky can wait. He won't die day 1 as scum anyways.
Theres a lot wrong with Flea's vibe here.

lunar martian clearly a liability with a dayvig shot even if he is town

This post particularly looks bad. Flareon agrees with me therefore this is a fact.

all this pack discussion is a waste of time and a distraction

lets just kill bad guys

Murdercatto told me pooky likes mech
and now we back to
VOTE: Pooky

tris be patient.

Nope not having it. Murder and infinity are gonna yell at me for constantly not consulting them when I go change the vote but nah this isnt town flea. This is scum flea who doesn't have unicorns, rainbows, or sammiches that's making excuses for why none of that is there. Nuh uh.

VOTE: Flea

when was our pooky TR not clear? We think he's scum because he's obsessed with mech but is telling people to disregard mech here. He has had multiple horribly scummy posts and he's not having fun.

Nornor... I haven't made any excuses.... I'm literally just self-analysing.

my "excuse" is I'm on a sitewide V/LA rn because I'm in the midst of a huge ass pain flare and my [cw EMET]

body is rejecting my painkillers and stomach medication

which is always amazing -.-;

UNVOTE:
I hope you aren't playing with my heart like this if scum but I'll just take the L

Ok ok

I asked noraa to consult with the discord before voting because this is getting ridiculous. That said, we got some thoughts from murder and here is a rough collective readslist:

{mastina}
{gamma, grey, LLD, shadow, lunar}
{tris, toog, flea, NM}
{molla}
{pooky}

All 3 of us felt good about mastina's entrance. Murder says he's seen gamma do RQS before as town, and I'm getting townvibes from him so far. Murder agrees with my TR on shadow. He said he didn't like toog's vote, he didn't explain why but I've liked toog so far. Murder and noraa both like lunar, murder for the dayvig claim. I'm not so sure. Murder thinks NM is towny for 324 and noraa thought it was scummy, personally I have no idea how anyone sorts NM but yeah. I still am getting vague scumpings from tris but not much I can articulate, murder is leaning town there though. Murder didn't like 202, I'm not sure why, but he's scumreading molla. I got some townvibes early but they're kind of weak. Murder and noraa are SRing pooky for reasons mentioned above, also murder has ongoing game reasons. I'm not so sure and I don't think I can read pooky. Some of how he was pushing us felt like scum!pooky aggression, but I also felt that way for part of silent star 3 when he was town.

VOTE: pooky

-Infinity

Ok I won't be voting without my whole hydra agreeing because the other heads have expressed dissatisfaction with it but my top SRs are currently BBmolla and Toog.
BBmolla is a scumassfuck but for some reason infinity doesn't agree with me on it. His tone is just horrible.
Toog has never done this much on day 1 before. And all these TRs being given out feel hella unnatural.

I'd be willing to flash wagon both asap if the other heads agree. Infinity doesn't agree with BB SR. Murder doesn't agree with Toog SR. I forgot what infinity said about Toog.

Flea moved up.
Lunar moved down. Other heads don't agree but I think Lunar's being really weird.
Hydra agrees on a tris scum read for her reads that keep changing for no reason.
Uh and yeah this was three days worth of content don't prod me until three days later :3

I'm all alone no one agrees with my SRs life is good >.<

Murder agrees with me but infinity isnt convinced.

- I think your solve seems fake;
- You mentioning that head x disagrees with head y seems to be an attempt to show towny dissonance between opinions (to imply that you come from an uninformed perspective);
- You don't look comfortable, I feel a cognitive load in your attempts at comical approach;
- The ping-pong on Pooky don't seem to come from a mentality that is trying to understand Pooky's alignment, but rather to create the idea that you are "undecided/reconsidering";
- The three hydra players have good towngames and I didn't see any of that here;
- Nora is not obvtown:
- etc etc etc;

[We brought pizza]

Pooky is scum here. My page one play is NAI in every single way but pooky calls it scum and proceeds to push it. Pooky has not one single reason behind his read on me and I know that town pooky is better than this. I've tried to engage him but all he's done is be cagey as hell and continue to provide no reasons. If not for the fact that pooky is my friendo bear, I would've been tunneling the shit out of him by now. Pooky can fight and I've seen him fight before. I saw him duel people to their deaths in legends and pull out his persuasive skills in death curse. He is a good town player and this is not it. I wavered on my SR many times worrying about if it would get discredited and make pooky a deeper deep wolf due to me mentioning the read too early. I wanted to shelve it but I also wanted to 1v1. I couldn't decide and now here we are in the middle of no mans land doing some weird shit. I don't care about anything else and I don't know who the other scum are because everyone looks scummy as fuck but pooky is scum here and he's literally not gonna die anytime soon. I'm willing to compromise on tris because that's the only other SR we agree on but pooky is still scum one hundred and twenty percent sure.