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[Cephrir]

Jjh and ythan are both acceptable votes. Let's make those happen.

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: ythan

[AGar]

Jjh and ythan are both acceptable votes. Let's make those happen.

You're posting like the day phase is almost over. Por que?

[Ythan]

Jjh remains a bad wagon and I've still yet to see anything to make it better.

[Ythan]

That's kinda just saying the same thing twice though.

[Cephrir]

Jjh and ythan are both acceptable votes. Let's make those happen.

You're posting like the day phase is almost over. Por que?

I can feel stuck whenever I want to.

[Ythan]

Hey explicit Dunn sheepers I too have strongly town read him all game but take a look at his case on jjh and then read jjh and tell me how you feel about it then please.

[Cephrir]

My vote is not based on that case

[Ythan]

Not you the explicit sheepers, but thank you.

[Ythan]

I guess sheep is the noun I'm looking for.

[Ythan]

Not that anyone is literally a sheep.

[Luca Blight]

Do you have any thoughts on my updated posts about you and Mastina?

You needed more time and data to determine your read on mastina. That makes sense. We need her case to read her.

The fact you seem to have a problem with me wanting to hold her accountable is astonishing.

Mastina's only contributions have been a wrong push on LLD and a wrong push on me. I'm being charitable there.

I don't have a problem with that? I clearly said that you'd most likely be pissed off with Mastina's push as either alignment, that's why I unvoted you.

Being wrong =/= scum, and she has done more than that, like correctly TR'ing my slot and defending it with conviction.

[Luca Blight]

Luca I can't find why u voted bell. Is it just omgusing

He fabricated a reason to vote me.

[Almost50]

i don't know if I have a strong opinion on A50 v Ythan with Oka interspersed in there, if anyone else does id be interested

I do. Interested?

it's hard for me to divine alignment from these kinds of 1v1s

Regardless of how you develop your reads, I can assure you that I am Town-all-Town here, and my frustration was genuine too.

[Almost50]

Step aside A50 and Ythan, it's time for the main event.

I was a sleep and have just logged back in now. Couldn't have stepped aside more if I wanted to.

[Almost50]

Bottom of page 153: Spending any time or effort on Titus v mastina is a waste of time and energy. It's the same as the LLD v DGB was, i.e. a clash of personalities and playstyles. The last game I was in with both of them they were mod-confirmed the same alignment to each other, and still they barely made peace with each other (do this for me and I'll do this for you kind of peace). Again: They shared a PT, were mod-confirmed to each other, had the same win-con (which was a complicated one, but that's beside the point).

/end rant

[Almost50]

This is wrong. It confirms a babysitter is indeed in the game. A babysitter's alignment can be determined by their actions. The longer a babysitter lives as scum, the more associative tells it gives. The longer it lives as town, the more powerful it becomes. Due to its dangerous nature, the babysitter has the power to kill or protect.

Titus, my dear. I've given this a thought and I don't see why an ANNOUNCING Scum!babysitter would ever target you on N1 (if you're Town). If it was a Scum Role I'm inclined to think they'd want it kept under wraps and use it as an additional scum NK at some point. (If Scum roll Babysitter they sure as hell know there's a Vig in the game. This isn't some troll game).

So, since we both agree it's a Town!Babysitter, the question was valid as to why you would want to expose their existence. Like, maybe they wanted YOU to know, but I don't think they wanted the whole game (and especially the Scum team) to know.

I could be wrong though

[Almost50]

It also potentially gives scum a valuable heads up

This line alone should make you rethink your SR on Titus. Why would SCUM her announce it in the thread, rather than share it with her team in the PT? I can only see ONE possibility for that to happen, and that would be if Titus is Scum

with

the Babysitter, and even then I don't see why they would preemptively out the existence of that role.

Disagree?

[Ythan]

I can imagine if I were scum and got targeted by an announcer I might feel it would seem scummy to hide it.

[Almost50]

Adding Xtoxm to the list of my townreads on the advice of petapan, who says he's worlds away from his play in the previous game and in FL vs Hectic. Petapan also TR's Dunnstral.

Which reminds me of Xtoxm's strange reaction to me suspecting him. It's already evident I misread him in the first game, so he can't even argue that I'm good at reading him.

[Cephrir]

It also potentially gives scum a valuable heads up

This line alone should make you rethink your SR on Titus. Why would SCUM her announce it in the thread, rather than share it with her team in the PT? I can only see ONE possibility for that to happen, and that would be if Titus is Scum

with

the Babysitter, and even then I don't see why they would preemptively out the existence of that role.

Disagree?

Eh. I think titus is supposed to be good at mechanics and if town should have realized outing this was not helpful.

Scum with the babysitter is not crazy at all to me.

[Almost50]

so my question is that i can't tell what your system is saying. my assumption was that a (2) meant 2 of these people and a (1) meant 1 of these people for 3 total.

Ah. I see where you got confused. The number on brackets was the count of repetition of that player's name, i.e. the number of teams they could have theoretically been on. It was much more useful when I had like 35 different possibilities listed, so someone would have been on -say- 18 of them and another would only be on 6.

[Almost50]

Can someone engage me on Ceph? His vote on me came out of left field. We were largely vibing so him getting off Ythan to vote me is off. Particularly with his tone.

Ceph is Town, but you're right the vote in you doesn't make sense

[Almost50]

You cite 3233, but in 3233, you have two solves - Ythan and Oka are in distinctly different solves. Now suddenly, even though Oka's behavior towards Ythan has been consistent from towards the end of D1, they're scum together. You're specifically pairing them at this point.

You missed the part where both solves became invalid because I now TR IV (who was supposedly in BOTH solves)

[Almost50]

1) Why are you not expending literally any energy trying to get a wagon on Ythan pushed further?
2) If your scumread on Oka is independent of Ythan, case it. And explain why you're abandoning your "solves" in 3233 so rapidly.
3) Hypothetically, if Ythan was an IC, how does that impact your opinion of Oka?

1) What more can I do? You tell me.
2) I can only vote one person at a time, so I don't really need to make a case on someone I'm not voting today.
3) In that case I'd have done the thing we're not supposed to talk about openly in the thread.

P.S. 1 & 2 are serious answers. 3 is obviously sarcastic, because I can't see Ythan as Town, let alone IC. Like "Hypothetically, if A50 was an amphibian..." HOLD ON! Monkeys are mammals!