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Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:10 pm

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I imagine you'll get to reading this part at some point, but the TLDR is gamma and infinity both voted NM because inactivity/laziness are not scum indicative for murder. gamma was insisting that murder being wagoned indicated town!murder. that's the gist of it.

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Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:10 pm

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eod = end of day
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Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:10 pm

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I guess if anything is really concerning to me about those it’s like the last 3-4

But like the rest looks far too wrong for me

I am sorry it was a shitty time tho, and hopefully now I’m in the slot we can have more fun
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Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:11 pm

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I have turned over a new leaf since black flag and am now the chilliest boi
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Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:11 pm

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It’s my final form
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Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 pm

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see that's what I always say and then I end up just being a tryhard
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Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 pm

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Wait is this cakez or lili?
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Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:13 pm

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Wait it is lili right? Idk I don’t think of you as a tryhard particularly
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Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:13 pm

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In post 1569, Menalque wrote:considering saying that if we just settle it as me being the guaranteed lim today would u spend the rest of the day trying to sort in my wagon from yesterday w/ me
i mean we can do this too, there's still a third scum out there and i have no idea who it is (and tbh there's a better than decent chance it's in those three names)

like i don't think i'm tunneled but i do think i have reasonably strong reasons to think ur scum (largely independent of u or anything you've said)

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Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:13 pm

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I guess what I should say is I’m trying to have a more chill attitude to avoid making games unpleasant

Which I feel is like a slow teleological progression of me as a player
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Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:15 pm

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i like it when everyone is chill :)
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Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 1583, Dumb and Dumber wrote:i mean we can do this too, there's still a third scum out there and i have no idea who it is (and tbh there's a better than decent chance it's in those three names)

like i don't think i'm tunneled but i do think i have reasonably strong reasons to think ur scum (largely independent of u or anything you've said)
You don’t think 2/3 on me yesterday?

In that case either late bus or if they saw it coming early bus on murderkitty

And as for the latter... meh? Like I can’t speak for gamma and either I can get u to see I’m town during the course of the day or we just lim me and u take the info and play from there

Like it lowkey sounds like it will come down to a paranoia thing in which case ehhh I get it but will be annoyed ~somewhat~ if this becomes a tryhardy game for me and I get limmed bc of unsettling stuff from gamma
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Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:16 pm

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In post 1549, Menalque wrote:But like fmpov, the occam’s explanation of the gamestate is a scum hardbus. Why? Bc I know that the alternative wagon yesterday was on town, which makes me think scum weren’t trying that hard to resist murdercat wagon which in turn makes me think bussing
i don't understand this either.

if gamma/mena = town, then there was a scum wagon and a town wagon, and so correct assumption is that scum bussed rather than tried to get town eliminated?

also, what would be "were'nt trying to hard to resist murdercat wagon" that wasn't infinity/gamma's reaction to the MC wagon?
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Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:17 pm

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ty on acronym wiki
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Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:18 pm

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skitter are you townreading infinity/why is he not in that pool

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Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:18 pm

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"I have no chill" is a more accurate description
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Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:19 pm

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gamma/infinity trying to wagon NM instead of murdercat yesterday was bad

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Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 1587, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 1549, Menalque wrote:But like fmpov, the occam’s explanation of the gamestate is a scum hardbus. Why? Bc I know that the alternative wagon yesterday was on town, which makes me think scum weren’t trying that hard to resist murdercat wagon which in turn makes me think bussing
i don't understand this either.

if gamma/mena = town, then there was a scum wagon and a town wagon, and so correct assumption is that scum bussed rather than tried to get town eliminated?

also, what would be "were'nt trying to hard to resist murdercat wagon" that wasn't infinity/gamma's reaction to the MC wagon?
I’m saying a very sensible assumption given the setup is that scum (specifically the other goon) has a v clear path to a win from a hardbus on D1 and that shouldn’t be discounted

The path would be >lim murder kitty >NK >9 players left, goon prob gets inducted into the panic room >hardbus the bomb D2 >3p lylo where the goon has led on both their buddies but can explain still being alive via NK expiring after bomb dies
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Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:21 pm

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As for the gamma/infinity thing, I would like to hear infinity on that but like this is the consequence of jumping in to chat with the plan to catch up gradually when I’m in the mood
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Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:21 pm

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In post 1586, Menalque wrote:You don’t think 2/3 on me yesterday?

In that case either late bus or if they saw it coming early bus on murderkitty

And as for the latter... meh? Like I can’t speak for gamma and either I can get u to see I’m town during the course of the day or we just lim me and u take the info and play from there

Like it lowkey sounds like it will come down to a paranoia thing in which case ehhh I get it but will be annoyed ~somewhat~ if this becomes a tryhardy game for me and I get limmed bc of unsettling stuff from gamma
well MURDERKITTY was off
so both non-flipped scum need to be on you out of three players and you'd need to be town for that to happen and i just don't think that's super likely
the eod felt almost too 'limp' for the gamma cw to be driven by two scum on in - there just wasn't really momentum there, and why wasn't MURDERKITTY voting his own cw?

and i don't think it's a paranoia thing. like it's not abt you. it's about gamma and how day1 played out

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Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:21 pm

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In post 1592, Menalque wrote:The path would be >lim murder kitty >NK >9 players left, goon prob gets inducted into the panic room >hardbus the bomb D2 >3p lylo where the goon has led on both their buddies but can explain still being alive via NK expiring after bomb dies
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Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:22 pm

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In post 1589, Daenerys and Dragons wrote:skitter are you townreading infinity/why is he not in that pool

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ehhhhh not as much anymore as i was yesterday, his positioning is not great too

i was listing the people on teh gamma wagon (i htink there's at least one scum there) but we can add him to the suspect pool too

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Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:24 pm

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mena are you assuming i was inducted in the panic room?
and given that from your pov you're town i'm not hardbussing the bomb ...

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Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:25 pm

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.... you think the third scum was bussing a bomb!gamma in order to stay off the murder wagon?

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Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:25 pm

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lol if mena = scum, and is just miffed he has a better strat than maybe OG scumgroup did, so he's like "here's what they should've done"
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