Open 805 Panic Room Day 1

[Daenerys and Dragons]

boop

[Dumb and Dumber]

.... you think the third scum was bussing a bomb!gamma in order to stay off the murder wagon?

- Daenerys

oh hmmm you're right. then like two scum on MC? gamma + scomeone else?
i didn't actually think through all the implicatiosn ig yet lol

~ skitteR

[Daenerys and Dragons]

If you think gamma is the bomb then us/gc/yyotta don't really make sense as the 3rd scum. I think that pool only makes sense if mena flips town or goon.

I kind of feel like gamma/infinity is not a bad guess. and I think infinity is also in my pool if gamma/mena is town. so maybe I just want infinity today.

- Daenerys

[Dumb and Dumber]

I have turned over a new leaf since black flag and am now the chilliest boi

Join the club!

lol if mena = scum, and is just miffed he has a better strat than maybe OG scumgroup did, so he's like "here's what they should've done"

Yes - I was expecting scum to do that ever since the game started, too.

-Dumbass

[Dumb and Dumber]

Menalque, I'm somewhat interested in your lack of a townread on Lilith.

-Dumbass

[Menalque]

You don’t think 2/3 on me yesterday?

In that case either late bus or if they saw it coming early bus on murderkitty

And as for the latter... meh? Like I can’t speak for gamma and either I can get u to see I’m town during the course of the day or we just lim me and u take the info and play from there

Like it lowkey sounds like it will come down to a paranoia thing in which case ehhh I get it but will be annoyed ~somewhat~ if this becomes a tryhardy game for me and I get limmed bc of unsettling stuff from gamma

well MURDERKITTY was off
so both non-flipped scum need to be on you out of three players and you'd need to be town for that to happen and i just don't think that's super likely
the eod felt almost too 'limp' for the gamma cw to be driven by two scum on in - there just wasn't really momentum there, and why wasn't MURDERKITTY voting his own cw?

and i don't think it's a paranoia thing. like it's not abt you. it's about gamma and how day1 played out

~ skitteR

I can only assume that murderkitty was doing that as a frame job

And i didn’t mean the paranoia thing like rn as things stand, I meant it more as in I think I’m generically capable of obvtown img in most games and so I’m just sort of defaulting to the assumption I will here too, at which point I think limming me will be more about paranoia over gamma than me myself

But maybe I’m getting too far ahead

[Menalque]

Menalque, I'm somewhat interested in your lack of a townread on Lilith.

-Dumbass

I... don’t have a lack of a TR on lili?

[Menalque]

Not sure where ur getting that from auro

[Menalque]

The path would be >lim murder kitty >NK >9 players left, goon prob gets inducted into the panic room >hardbus the bomb D2 >3p lylo where the goon has led on both their buddies but can explain still being alive via NK expiring after bomb dies

oic


have you played this setup before?

No but i considered signing up for it while it was in queue and was thinking about it then

mena are you assuming i was inducted in the panic room?
and given that from your pov you're town i'm not hardbussing the bomb ...

~ skitteR

I’m assuming u get inducted into it, not that ur necessarily already in it

I’m thinking if u were inducted yesterday u defo hardbus the bomb if scum today

But I think u prob wait for the confirmation of being inducted if scum rather than starting off hard bussing the bomb today it u weren’t inducted yesterday

lol if mena = scum, and is just miffed he has a better strat than maybe OG scumgroup did, so he's like "here's what they should've done"

That is something I would do tbf

[Menalque]

Yes - I was expecting scum to do that ever since the game started, too.

Do u mean u expected scum to do my strat or that u expected scum to just have a better strat or what?

[Dumb and Dumber]

Oh nevermind, I thought you were referring to the other D&D

Yeah, I expected scum to pull the early hardbus strategy.

-Dumbass

[Menalque]

I am using D&D for lili/cakez and DnD for u/skitt btw

[Menalque]

Yeah, I expected scum to pull the early hardbus strategy.

And I’m assuming u agree with skitt that this didn’t happen or are u both discussing it?

[Dumb and Dumber]

Yeah, I expected scum to pull the early hardbus strategy.

And I’m assuming u agree with skitt that this didn’t happen or are u both discussing it?

This gave me some doubt over the Gamma scumread, but then I figured Gamma probably wouldn't adopt this strategy.

-Dumbass

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Hi mena!!!!

VOTE: mena

Unfortunately we think ur slot has super high scum equity

~ skitteR

I disagree actually, I think Gamma!slot is looking better after that flip.

I'm more interested in GC, Yyotta or infinity today

-Dragons

[Dumb and Dumber]

I disagree actually, I think Gamma!slot is looking better after that flip.

Really?

Because it really looked like scummerald awkwardly trying to defend a lim on his buddy.

-Dumbass

[Daenerys and Dragons]

Also @mena i have a p strong townpool and gamma never was townie, so he was p firmly outside of it. And i dislike his interactions with mc/mc's wagon, in that he tried to avoid it for a p long time

Okay, well I can’t answer for gamma and I haven’t read yet but I will

Like I don’t ur logic but I would like to hear more on who is particularly towny and why

Although I’d actually prob rather hear after I read up to see if we sync or not

you
salsa
lilith's slot

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infinity
gc
yyotta
catboi

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MURDERKITTY
gamma

tiers look roughly like this ^.
don't really want to flip nm either

this is from my eod yestserday
salsa - strongest townread; the iso-reads she's done on a few slots now are ridiculously +++town, she has an element of guileness that i really like, she just screams newbtown

lilith's slot - the emotion in bickering with gamma + how she picked a fight with me eod yesterday, probably town, probably otu of her scumrange (i'm a bit less confident than i was yesterday, i will say)

~
infinity - with the murder scum flip and infinity's defense of him i want to put him in the bottom category tbh. i don't remember why i was townreading him anymore

gc - liked his stubborness on his shadow read (not the initial read, but rather how he persisted and explained it when i kept pushing back). not as strong a townread as the above but town enough for now

yyotta - also getting newbtown vibes. weaker read than the other townreads

catboi - i really liked shadowslug, and htought he was very, very townie. i don't have much thought on catboi's iteration of the slot tbh

~

gamma - literally never got townvibes from him, hated his half of the lilith/gamma thing

murderkitty - flipped scum! i'm happy i caught that one

~

nm - nm

that's kinda where i'm at. want to focus on lesser townreads / people i don't townread today

~ skitteR

Does this mean your strongest SR is on NM?

gamma/infinity trying to wagon NM instead of murdercat yesterday was bad

- Daenerys

yeah I forgot about that, that was so shit
I feel like scum was for sure in that group trying to throw up NM

-Dragons

[Daenerys and Dragons]

I disagree actually, I think Gamma!slot is looking better after that flip.

Really?

Because it really looked like scummerald awkwardly trying to defend a lim on his buddy.

-Dumbass

Disagree, at least to the point where I don't want him yeeted today. I like Mena's posting too.

GC's posting seems to be preemptively trying to avoid a wagon on him. We have seen nothing from Yyotta or Infinity yet. Quite comfortable with this pool.

-Dragons

[YyottaCat]

Does anyone even have any thoughts on NK?

[Daenerys and Dragons]

not sure if we should be trying to discuss the nk - @d&d do you guys think this is a useful discussion to have?

- Daenerys

not sure if we should be trying to discuss the nk - @d&d do you guys think this is a useful discussion to have?

Nope, we should avoid it.

-Dumbass

[Green Crayons]

Does anyone even have any thoughts on NK?

Who are your top candidates for MC’s scum buddies, and why?

[catboi]

FWIW, I still think murdercat's push on yyotta is potentially partner-y but points away from her being the bomb and so would vote elsewhere today.

can you explain this? I just ISO'd MC and I don't think his push looks partner-y, I think it looks like a safe park vote

I thought the push was pretty halfhearted and he backed down rather easily in a way that made it seem like he didn't really want it to go through. However, looking back at him, all his pushes were fairly halfhearted so I don't know how much weight that holds. I wouldn't say it's clearing but not my first choice for a vote.

[catboi]

Menalque: just calm down and read the game.We're not going to quick-elim you, just read up and give your take on things, constantly arguing and spamming the thread without context isn't going to help.

I'm not going to entertain paranoia about Dumb and Dumber right now because Auro was the one who convinced me to move off your slot and onto murdercat (that, and gamma looking a bit like inflamed town in his argument with d&d)

[YyottaCat]

Does anyone even have any thoughts on NK?

Who are your top candidates for MC’s scum buddies, and why?

I agree with D&D's assumption that Gamma's slot could be scum. I do find Gamma being quite unnatural and awkward. Other than that, I don't really have strong enough SRs.

[YyottaCat]

FWIW, I still think murdercat's push on yyotta is potentially partner-y but points away from her being the bomb and so would vote elsewhere today.

can you explain this? I just ISO'd MC and I don't think his push looks partner-y, I think it looks like a safe park vote

I thought the push was pretty halfhearted and he backed down rather easily in a way that made it seem like he didn't really want it to go through. However, looking back at him, all his pushes were fairly halfhearted so I don't know how much weight that holds. I wouldn't say it's clearing but not my first choice for a vote.

Scum wouldn't want bomb to get eliminated because that would mean an early loss to them. How is his vote partner-y though? “Halfhearted” doesn't explain it very much.