Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Morty and Rick]

I think Clidd is town

-Morty

[clidd]

Not a fan of your wall.

Nothing you said reflected me as genuine or difficult to manufacture, but I’ll wait since you said it’s not over.

[War and Peace]

VOTE: ItalianoVD
I got a feeling this is scum

Why so? I didn't really get that impression; Italiano's actions to this point serve only to draw attention to himself.

Ircher feels very tonally different from his townmeta. No crank, no snark, all politics.

I would argue I'm snarkier when I am scum. See for instance the Dark Fairy Booneytoonz game.

His entrance feels off

I'm not convinced by this. His entrance feels a bit subdued, but simply being "off" is a rather vague and generic inference.

This time ... you're shitposting?

Dunnstral's post reads 100% serious to me. I don't see how you read it as fluffy.

Seriously? What's put you off of him?

Fey's posts seem a bit off. Like this one for instance; the amount of force expressed here seems disproportional to the magnitude of the crime.

I can be enthusiastic as scum as well and its not like you dont know that.

I am very much aware of that. In Pooky vs. Flavor Leaf, your enthusiasm was over the top. Hence, MURDERCAT caught you. Your enthusiasm here more closely resembles the dark fairy Booneytoonz game, where you were town. Do I believe you can fake it as scum? Absolutely. Do I think that's the case here? No, not right now.

Can you quote bits that you think are genuine for me? I just want to have a grasp on it. And I don't think they were too quiet, I mean. I guess I remember them because we had that same-brain thing going on... ^^;

(To this point, Sherlock and Watson had one post. You must be confusing them with someone else.)
Regarding the quotes,I cannot for the most part direct you to individual posts because it's a more holistic read versus a collection of individual post reads. I guess if I had to choose one, 23 strikes me as the most genuine and least likely of Noraa's posts to come from scum!Noraa.

I didn't connect the dots and realize war and peace was ircher. Like I knew ... kind of but then forgot.

How can you forget when 1) it's in my sig and 2) I sign each and every one of my posts?!?!

So Nancy is the good guy and Titus is the bad guy? So if I’m not a mason, how do I help Nancy?

How do you spell Lah-mist?
-Rogue 3

So far, you've made multiple fluff comments. I'll be waiting to see some actual content from you.

I think Italiano is being defended too hard for the content he's actually posted

I don't get that impression. I agree that Italiano's posts look bad on a glance, but when you look deeper, it really comes out to null. I think the people defending Italiano are arguing along those lines and that they seem louder than they actually are.

like there's attention and discussion on a few slots right now, and rather than commenting on any of that you push on italiano based on like... 3 posts? it looks like just arbitarily adding another slot to the lim pool, and you get the added bonus of not having to engage with the building case on ircher

This is a very good take. Tentatively town reading the Charlie and Snoopy slot.

I've been asking a ton of questions, which is what you accused him of. Why am I distinguished from that?

This is very shallow. Context matters a lot. That being said; I do think you are tonally off, and am unsure why no one else seems to thinks this way.

I've played enough games with Dunn to know that.

Okay, but doesn't this contradict your earlier assertion that Dunnstral mainly does this as scum?

It's too early to call anyone a "lurker"

Agreed. Certain slots may be "quiet", but the game had just started. You aren't lurking if you haven't posted within an hour of game start.

The more you ignore me, the more I'm going to think this, and I don't think you can fairly called me tunneled when you're not engaging with me on what was originally a simple question.

When someone stops engaging with you, it does no benefit to continue pressing the issue. It continues to get ignored or get people upset, and it needlessly clutters the thread.

At bottom of page 10. I don't expect to get much further tonight.
~War

[clidd]

This is a towny wall ^

[clidd]

I sympathize with the feeling of strangeness towards Fey.

[5uffering]

How many pages I go through is arbitrary. I may interject myself at any time

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Were did Batsunami go? 124 posts is not much in current scope but if I recall her reads were that Ircher (War+Peace) and Toog were scum. At this current point, they were both getting a lot of attention. This would've been a perfect time to interject or even say something to both of them but instead they chose silence. I don't like it...

#128 Scummy vote Battle Mage. Not mincing words here but the fact Battle Mage got this far is beyond me. You were the first one to question W+P's authority and you had to wait until a wagon to vote them? You should be the one leading the wagon, not following it.

#129 is a very individual pop-in from Gamma. Let's see what comes of it. #130 There's that politics word again. When does the usage of the word Politics become Politics.

#141 from Batsunami I guess they're off to a different read. Someone stop me if this is natural to them, just dumping reads off the pier. #144 from Gamma and his concern of Italiano is..good. I would've probably voted him around here too if I signed up. #148 Batsunami onto something else again I guess. I will now assume this is just how they play and where their reads lie is how I'll read them.

I don't want this to become a meta-heavy game.

#157 Pyro "Italiano is posting in a way that is made to be look bad and scummy, not by accident, but intentionally." Huh. What a fascinating way to say you believe he's joking.

#160 War and Peace these are butter knife opinions. You're not cutting into the game with them. I wanted to give you benefit of the doubt because I don't like Battle Mage but you could both be scum together.

Associative are bad to look at D1 but eye the way Pyro/Batsunami engage on page 7 for future reference.

#178 Pyro you can't come in here under an alt and then keep handing out meta cards. Explain yourself better, or wait until you have a better way of pronouncing before saying anything at all.

#187 Fey So what does that mean for Gamma? I try to refrain from asking questions with earlier content but I really would like to know. Gamma came in with a very directed accusation against Italiano, and if the reads on Italiano are misplaced then does that make it scum who are manipulating the situation?

#189 Only about (Pyro, Fey) defended them. What does this exactly mean in the greater scheme of things.

#217 Yes Battle Mage I still think Pyro is a bit off but so are you so fight.

#238 Alright so this is two instances now of Dunnstral calling out what he sees, but not what comes of it. Is this behavior telling? Maybe batsunami would have something to say.

#245 Fey getting agitated by Batsunami ignoring her. You had a decent thing going with War and Peace why stop there. #251 Yes however I can see that.

Italiano was in the mouths of a few people both in terms of scum and town. Seemed like a common topic yet only 3 votes landed his way. Pyro's dissertation of their play comes off as informed interests at this rate, while everyone else is just making a guess. How do you spend 5 pages meandering then come swinging like you have all the answers. Dislike.

#284 Dunn why is a boring wagon make it a bad wagon.

[Sherlock and Watson]

If the game slows down by the time I get back on later, I'll probably go back and skim through. Finishing lunch, and back to work soon though.

Okay, mostly I want votes on Clidd because Titus told me that's what she needed for her VCA. But also because the read on Charlie and Snoopy didn't attempt to differentiate the two heads, just found a reason to have a non-consensus read.

It's really hard to pick like some special event that happened.

My hydra partner getting banned isn't even exciting because it wasn't based on anything in this game.

Yeah there's a lot of shitposting, but some of it is funny and there's plenty of readable stuff in there.

But there isn't like some big

momenty

, you know?

akarin is so f'n town it's like, insane

is this what it was like being with chito and yuuri, I've never had that experience from the outside

My read is losing strength over time, you need to towntell in the next 24 hours, Sam.

No, the vote was late. Didn't you notice any difference between this game and our past game?

this is kinda ... what's the word? theatrical? performative? idk don't like it tho

I should be scummy in your perspective for how I got into the game.

clidd actually just seems really scummy here?

TITUS DID YOU STEAL MY SHERLOCK BUDDY?

Akarin is a townlean.

Differentiating the heads hasn't changed my conclusion about the slot, but her observation on this was towny.

hmmm this take isn't bad though

Charlie and Snoopy requested replacement

okay can I just say this... makes me really sad

Marci I hope the pace of this game or any of the jokey shenanigans so far didn't scare you off

Shadow I was actually really enjoying this engagement with you and I'm really really sad to see you go

this really just did some damage to my mood

okay this time for real, I'm just gonna break for the night, or try to at least

-S

[clidd]

I'm aware of when I should be scummy or not from the perspective of a player I have played with.

[5uffering]

Not very far yet. Found myself skimming at some intervals so if I glossed you over it should be obvious.

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Spoiler:

#307 Rogue Townish but stating the obvious? Don't think stating the obvious is always town.

#325 Battle Mage you think W+P could be town now? Never felt like you got around to resolving that read personally.

#329 Fey why would you need to follow weren't you the one initially on W+P?

I am not asking for people to hold onto their reads like a newborn but some of you really don't let time develop them for you.

#336 Batsunami "think he's scum but wagon on him is unsettling." Hesitance here is a nice thought, but you seem to be really indecisive on where your vote ends up.

#356 I think so too Dunn. It's a bit different from Italiano where it's almost cocky. #379 snap vote from Dunnstral is good. Sherlock continuing to egg on the situation is well, bad.

#384 Pyro make more posts like these just as a note. I didn't like the rest of what you were bringing.

I've had a few shifts in perspective at this point. Would like sort this into a reads list:

Wouldn't lim D1:
Dunnstral, Batsunami, Rogue Squadron, Gamma

Fleeting/Unsure:
Fey (She dropped for me as I feel her candidness that I liked seems to be mostly gone. It's not enough to drop any further however, because there is some guidance in her tone that doesn't seem to be manipulative.), Pyro (Keep going back and forth.)

Compromise:
Toogeloo, War and Peace

Would lim D1:
Italiano, Battle Mage, Sherlock and Watson

Everyone else no strong impression up until this point.

[clidd]

In the sense that I understand whether it makes sense for person x to suspect me based on impression y and if that makes person x town or not.

[clidd]

Not very far yet. Found myself skimming at some intervals so if I glossed you over it should be obvious.

Pages 13-16:

Spoiler:

#307 Rogue Townish but stating the obvious? Don't think stating the obvious is always town.

#325 Battle Mage you think W+P could be town now? Never felt like you got around to resolving that read personally.

#329 Fey why would you need to follow weren't you the one initially on W+P?

I am not asking for people to hold onto their reads like a newborn but some of you really don't let time develop them for you.

#336 Batsunami "think he's scum but wagon on him is unsettling." Hesitance here is a nice thought, but you seem to be really indecisive on where your vote ends up.

#356 I think so too Dunn. It's a bit different from Italiano where it's almost cocky. #379 snap vote from Dunnstral is good. Sherlock continuing to egg on the situation is well, bad.

#384 Pyro make more posts like these just as a note. I didn't like the rest of what you were bringing.

I've had a few shifts in perspective at this point. Would like sort this into a reads list:

Wouldn't lim D1:
Dunnstral, Batsunami, Rogue Squadron, Gamma

Fleeting/Unsure:
Fey (She dropped for me as I feel her candidness that I liked seems to be mostly gone. It's not enough to drop any further however, because there is some guidance in her tone that doesn't seem to be manipulative.), Pyro (Keep going back and forth.)

Compromise:
Toogeloo, War and Peace

Would lim D1:
Italiano, Battle Mage, Sherlock and Watson

Everyone else no strong impression up until this point.

This wall was better, at least. But your pool is meh.

[Titus]

Not a fan of your wall.

Nothing you said reflected me as genuine or difficult to manufacture, but I’ll wait since you said it’s not over.

Which wall is that?

[clidd]

Starting here.

Summary of thoughts transpiring a collection of pages which will be numbered. I'm not finished until I say so

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Standard fanfare RVS. #38 and then #40 are curious. Batsunami already started off with their shoelaces tied and ready to hunt. Reciting reads around #46. It's not anything remarkable really, but it does stand out compared to everyone else who posted up until this point.

Seems Battle Mage and Bat think Toog is scummy (#67). This is the most potent conversation thus far but I'm transcribing this in real-time so we'll see if that changes. Italiano #69 funny. #78 Waxing poetic.

My eyes kept avoiding Pyro beause they're committed to the act and it's not readable; I think I know who this is.

#81 Battle mage this is needlessly explanatory. #82 defense of Battle Mage slightly noted from War and Peace; #88 OK Battle Mage going after someone who defended him?

#90 Fey "Being political about approaching Battle Mage's read right now." Pray tell? Politics here implies that War and Peace were undermining Pyro's vote by trying to appeal to BM by defense. I don't know if I agree with that.

#94 Toog that's brave words, but they come at a convenient time.

The votes that fall on War and Peace are fine, individually. Fey explaning her read further on W+P is also fine, individually.
--

Pause for thought. I don't agree with War and Peace being scummy here, if anything null. I think BM by the post highlighted alone looks really bad, because the explanation all seems very processed. I don't like that he is treading around others and only engaging topics in ways that boost his appearance. I think Fey has the most innocent gestures however and she likely just felt good about people agreeing with her. This is a common trait and even if we disagree on the politics, I think her opinions are well-meaning.

^

[Pyro]

Oh, well, hello there, 5uffering. Fancy seeing you here. The circumstances around your entrance are really shady, but I'll try not to read into them

too

much.

clidd, are you enjoying this game so far?

[Pyro]

this is kinda ... what's the word? theatrical? performative? idk don't like it tho

Performative and overconfident clidd is town!clidd. Leaning town on him. I agree with Akarin being towny though.

[Pyro]

I don't townread Morty yet which is sad.

Toogeloo's annoyance at post counts feels towny.

[Pyro]

Also, Pooky is elitelling big time which is pretty concerning.

[5uffering]

Pages 17-25. Nearing some sort of completion. My thoughts are becoming less narrow and I'm getting a good depiction of the game.

Spoiler:

Morty and Rick late to the party huh? Can't say I get anything out of the way you entered. Not sure if it's a case of opinions being set or if I'm starting to skim. I keep seeing common people in the pages. Batsunami, Pyro, Dunn, Fey (dropped off for a bit), Rogue. I'm just keeping this mental note for myself. Sherlock seemed to have established a bit of more presence around this time as well but lead with claiming parity cop as what I assume is just a joke.

#490 Alright a less familiar face as well. I think I remember seeing this slot early on but I'm paying attention.

#487 and other consecutive posts on this page Morty and Rick don't post like it's RVS when RVS has already past. I'm not trying to be a stickler, I love fun as well but just maybe laying it on too thick.

Italiano is still MIA..

Pyro still staying on Ircher/War and Peace. At least there's a consistency.

#525 Yeah I think Battle Mage is scummy too but I don't know. Why did you decide now would be best to say all these things. I'm a replacement so I have the excuse.

#531 The vote onto War and Peace here from Starcrossed feels like it belonged way back. I'm not trying to cut into your personal life but there is a disconnect with this vote and what has transpired since then.

#535 from Aliase 6 votes on W+P now that's an actual wagon. Note this for later.

Feels like a common thought I keep having while going through this catch-up is the sudden appearance and disappearance of players. I have to consider the setup here and I have to consider what Titus said pre-game. I am very much ignoring what she posts in-thread but I do believe she's trying her hardest and that comes with a bit of coaching and sidelining as well. I'm paying attention.

#576 These are some reads honestly. Italiano and Dunnstral close together? Dunn's been shouting about Italiano even when nobody has been listening for a good while now.

[Pyro]

Pyro, I pinky-promise we'll solve tomorrow, and I don't take that lightly, okay? So cheer up, listen to some happy music!

Fine ... I'll listen to some Baba Yetu in the meantime while I pour ash over my flower pots.

[Pyro]

Use post links, 5uffering... I know you know how to use them.

[5uffering]

My own thoughts are more important than the post itself, so I never bother with linking. This will all lead to a conclusion anyways

[clidd]

My enjoyment depends on my mood about the game's events, Pyro.

[Pyro]

I also feel like War and Peace could just be town. stick them in the townpile for today.

Explain the reasoning for why when you return, Battle Mage.

[clidd]

this is kinda ... what's the word? theatrical? performative? idk don't like it tho

Performative and overconfident clidd is town!clidd. Leaning town on him. I agree with Akarin being towny though.

So you know me.

Not sure if you're Hectic's alt or not.

[Pyro]

mitsuha's posting seemed fine, but this one take did bother me:

if war and peace flips scum at any point, i'd be happy to townlock pyro! i don't think this bus comes from a scumbuddy ever. but until then, i will keep my fire extinguisher nearby just in case...

I don't think what I've done is anywhere near a hard bus, or anything worth ruling out S/S for. Feels too confident for what it is.

Also, I still want to hear what your read on me is independent of whatever War and Peace's alignment is.