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Yeah, TBH we have the numbers... for now. As the game goes on we will need to be more careful unless we lynch scum.
In TOS (Town Of Salem), a common practice is VFR, or voting for roles. It involves voting someone up (voting in that game is two-stage, majority vote puts them up to a podium where they can defend themselves and then after that players can vote innocent or guilty, if there are more guilty than innocent votes they get hanged) and then asking them to claim. This helps the town collect info about the roles in the game and weed out fake claims from mafia/coven/NK.
This only really works in games with lots of power roles (in TOS everyone is a power role). In TOS there are often several protective roles to protect important townies who are forced to claim.
Here it's impractical because at most we have one doctor. It's not like we have many other PRs to find anyways. Mostly we would hit vanilla townies, or scum claiming vanilla.
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TOS is a different kind of semi-open in many setups. In Ranked Practice, for example, there is a list of roles like "Town Investigative" (sheriff aka cop, investigator which doesn't have a Mafia equivalent, lookout aka watcher, spy which also doesn't have an equivalent), "Town Killing" (vigilante, veteran aka PGO). So you can fill those slots with claims. There are also Random Town slots.
There's also Classic where all slots besides Town Killing and a single RT are fixed. And All Any which is randomly-generated. It's a mess.- Happy Unbirthday Boon
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Yeah those setups are pretty much predicated on a computer handling all the night actions because otherwise it would take forever
Still, probably good practice at handling semi-open setups like this
main problem with those setups though is that half the time they'd be breakable off mech if town actually had the time to process everything being said, some of those setups feel only winnable if town is at least slightly dumb in a way I guess, more puzzle game than mafia almost
anyway do you have takes on anyone other than flow trap?-
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I didn't townread you, I had a thought that you are funny and that you mostly was kidding (it sounded very funny about "knows mafia should talk to seem towny" and other arguments, maybe I understood it wrong, I don't care for now).In post 110, team rocket queen wrote:have you stopped townreading me? or was i incorrectly assuming you were townreading me based on your response to my first few posts?
You have good agruments sometimes. I.e. "also, voting with me, not stating why, but disagreeing with my reasons is interesting"
And I think I will play this game with HUB, hoping it is not a very good mafia. I don't understand some things it talks, but the rest of its posts I understand and most important that I understand its position. If trq and I are townies for it, and Ydrasse maybe, it is clear why it doesn't like FBJim and maybe flow trap. And I can take trq as a townie only because of HUB's opinion. It should see things clearly, comparing with me. At least it knows some of the players and because of my language issues...-
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That's an unexpectable twist and very interesting. Please tell me did you play on Russian mafia forums? Nickname?In post 141, KittyTacky wrote:I'm from Russia by the way so my timezones are weird.- Datisi
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with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-02-26 12:00:00).
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- flow trap
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Last game I had a PR read on something which caused me to dodge questions, please do not proceed with thisIn post 146, KittyTacky wrote:Dodging questions is seen as quite scummy where I come from."I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- KittyTacky
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I actually didn't... I said I had next to no experience with forum mafia didn't I?In post 155, Vasex wrote:
That's an unexpectable twist and very interesting. Please tell me did you play on Russian mafia forums? Nickname?In post 141, KittyTacky wrote:I'm from Russia by the way so my timezones are weird.
Well you soft-claimed PR way back. Mafia is likely to target you anyways since a PR dying is good for them regardless of what it is but your soft-claim provides no info to us. Share with the class.flow trap wrote:
Last game I had a PR read on something which caused me to dodge questions, please do not proceed with thisIn post 146, KittyTacky wrote:Dodging questions is seen as quite scummy where I come from.
Not really, TBH. Nothing that can be well-articulated.Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote: anyway do you have takes on anyone other than flow trap?- Happy Unbirthday Boon
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Sadly it looks like Ahri is getting replaced, and unless the noavi gets replaced with another noavi then it looks like my avi-related SE duties are done.
And, I think I've made a decision about how to meme this game.
"But HUB, isn't it too early to build your memes for the game around two players you have never played with before on page 4?"
No, logical reasoning, NO!
The time has come, KOMRADE.- Happy Unbirthday Boon
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I am thinking both KittyTacky and Vasex are both town.
(I still also townread TRQ but that doesn't fit the meme as well)
Which means we are no longer townblocking. Oh no. Now we are RUSSIABLOCKING.
Da, this is capitalist sentiment! We must hunt the scum for glorious mother russia!In post 15, FBJim wrote:i am posting instead of working, please don't call my boss
In post 38, FBJim wrote:UNVOTE: team rocket queen - things are getting less random
Komrade, how will you hunt the scum if you are not using your vote?
In post 42, FBJim wrote:VOTE: Vasex- D1 pressure seems normal, asking approval and complementing another player on a page 1 vote seems less normal.
Komrade, I do not like this vote or this reasoning
In post 76, FBJim wrote:Empty post per moderator request (ip verification)
Are jokes to the mod scum indicative? This is a theoretical question we can review in post and not an actual accusation, just something I've been wondering about
disagree komrade, evaluating your level of experience is part of getting a sense of you as a player and is very townieIn post 87, FBJim wrote:that and questioning if i was really a new player, which isn't relevant to finding mafia
I disliked this whole conversation on your part, Komrade JimIn post 94, FBJim wrote:also not sure about your assumption that at least one of your voters is scum.
Komrade, why do you keep not using vote? This makes your re-evaluations feels performative and less townie, friend.
In post 140, FBJim wrote:Vasex and trq. trq for pushing in productive ways. Vasex because I think his reactions were genuine.
Komrade, this is actually a pretty good take. I agree on these reads, and yet, I feel like you still may be likely scum. Still, this does not make me super confident. I would say you are... ~45% capitalist scum. Still, even with the null replacements coming, I believe you are best vote for glorious motherland.
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Spoiler:- flow trap
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^In post 160, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:Komrade, how will you hunt the scum if you are not using your vote?"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- FBJim
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not to snitch, but you were also advised after that last game that having more dialogue with players on the early days would have helpedIn post 157, flow trap wrote:
Last game I had a PR read on something which caused me to dodge questions, please do not proceed with thisIn post 146, KittyTacky wrote:Dodging questions is seen as quite scummy where I come from.
and you're your own dude and don't have to follow advice, but do you have anything we can work with?- FBJim
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don't know if you're the type to respond to this kind of pressure with how loose you've been, butIn post 161, flow trap wrote:
^In post 160, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:Komrade, how will you hunt the scum if you are not using your vote?
VOTE: flow trap
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yeah. took the first page interactions a little too seriously and jumped to trying to fit everything past that to a narrative. that said, i townread his reactions to that, so it wasn't a total waste. (part of why i backed off)In post 160, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote: disagree komrade, evaluating your level of experience is part of getting a sense of you as a player and is very townie- FBJim
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I don't know about KittyTacky. Null for now. I tried to investigate who is he because the community of Russian Mafia is not too big, especially talking about the ability to play in English, but it seems we are not acquainted at all. It is ok.
It is pity that here I can't upvote the posts I like, because HUB rocks
Red Alert, Mother Russia like the main meme of the game, nice
FBJim, I don't think that to hang the most possible RP is a good idea. It is better to see will he be alive after the night. But I agree with you and KittyTacky that dodging questions is not good for townie. It is better for him to talk more.
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Because if I succeded in that, this quote could be definitely a lie: "but my experience with forum Mafia is lacking"In post 167, Vasex wrote:I tried to investigate who is he- flow trap
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I am and no I wasn'tIn post 162, FBJim wrote:not to snitch, but you were also advised after that last game that having more dialogue with players on the early days would have helped"I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
"I honestly had no idea how to converse with (Flow). (Flow) brought up architecture to start with and I was like "oh do you like architecture" and then he was like "uhm no I know nothing about it." And then he threw something out a window??"- flow trap
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This is a strawmanIn post 158, KittyTacky wrote:flow trap wrote:
In post 146, KittyTacky wrote:
Dodging questions is seen as quite scummy where I come from.
Last game I had a PR read on something which caused me to dodge questions, please do not proceed with this
Well you soft-claimed PR way back. Mafia is likely to target you anyways since a PR dying is good for them regardless of what it is but your soft-claim provides no info to us. Share with the class."I'm not coming to your house with a paper shredder" - Flow
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Replacing Ahri.
GeorgeBailey is now my backup mod.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- GeorgeBailey
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fairyprincess69 replaces Ahri.I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M - Datisi
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