Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Titus]

I protect all my babies. It's what I do.

So are you sure your vote is where you want it?

[Saudade]

Amazing deflection

You really think I picked someone who hates scum?

Lol this stump wifom is good. Momma bear realizes her precious baby BM is going under because Noraa is attacking him so she comes to discredit me. Good one.

are you going to enlighten me what's that tell you're so confident of is or am I just going to vote you and tab out for the week

You aren’t going to run up the most obvious townie in the playerlist.

things happened since, why are you replying in such a delay

[Titus]

Time for work. I'll be back later.

[Battle Mage]

5uffering replaces Charlie and Snoopy

ah UNVOTE:

bloody hell, town is in rough shape. my entire townpool wants me dead.

[Battle Mage]

Only E-4?
this is like the only wagon that I would be ok with flashwagoning asap.

If you want a BM elim, let the thread breathe.

P.S. Nancy I care more about thread health because I win by creating an enjoyable atmosphere without making content.

Titus is clearly trying to shield the REAL scum here, which I don’t think is BM.

your read is right, but it might not matter.

Help me find out who she’s shielding. I think you’re probably a miselim and specifically because of Pooky vs FL, I would prefer you not be the D1 wagon.

War and Peace and I'm willing to explain it.

Hot take, you and War and Peace are both town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Oh god this is making me mad. NO ONE EVER LISTENS TO MY DK TELLS. BUT EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. THEY ARE RIGHT.

Just believe me this one time. Literally Nancy. Just this one time. Believe me. I promise you BM is scum.

@Noraa, if he’s actually scum he won’t make it to endgame, so why is like a practically a matter of life and death he be faded D1? Tbh, I have other slots that are concerning me more, which I’m currently keeping close to the vest.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes, I insist on having the FINAL say on who gets run up and rn, I’m leaning possible miselim on BM.

Nancy do you believe in me?

I believe you’re town and that you may possibly be tunneled.

[Alisae]

hey can ywall try to show restraint when it comes to posting multiple vote/unv tags within a single post please ty!

[Alisae]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 11

• Battle Mage
  --------- 4 ( Morty and Rick(62), Sherlock and Watson(98), Fey(77), Batsunami(216), Titus(74) )
  F- 5
  
  
  Saudade
  ------------- 3 ( ItalianoVD(14), War and Peace(16), clidd(31) )
  F- 6
  
  
  Starcrossed
  --------- 2 ( Pyro(90), Dunnstral(65) )
  F- 7
  
  
  War and Peace
  ------- 2 ( Starcrossed(5), 5uffering(52) )
  F- 7
  
  
  ItalianoVD
  ---------- 1 ( Gamma Emerald(5) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Clidd
  --------------- 1 ( Red Eye Knights(46) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Fey
  ----------------- 1 ( Saudade(85) )
  F- 8
  
  
  Dunnstral
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  5uffering
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Toogeloo
  ------------ 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Gamma Emerald
  ------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Red Eye Knights
  ----- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Sherlock and Watson
  - 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Batsunami
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Morty and Rick
  ------ 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  SaraharaS
  ----------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  Pyro
  ---------------- 0 ( No One )
  F- 9
  
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  ---------- 2 ( SaraharaS(1), Toogeloo(15), Nancy Drew 39(132), Battle Mage(80) )

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to Flip
Deadline is in (expired on 2021-02-25 20:01:00)

[Saudade]

hey can ywall try to show restraint when it comes to posting multiple vote/unv tags within a single post please ty!

sorry i get excited easily

[Nancy Drew 39]

Battle Mage who is your #1 townread at the moment

noraa-MT and the Ircher hydra

Can you explain why W & P is your #1 tr along with Bats?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Yes, I insist on having the FINAL say on who gets run up and rn, I’m leaning possible miselim on BM.

Nancy do you believe in me?

I'm telling you this tell has NEVER failed me before. never.

Im literally going to die tonight if BM dies today. I am sacrificing for town. Nancy. Believe in this one read. Just this one and we will hit scum day 1.

I don’t want you to die tonight though.

[5uffering]

Only E-4?
this is like the only wagon that I would be ok with flashwagoning asap.

If you want a BM elim, let the thread breathe.

P.S. Nancy I care more about thread health because I win by creating an enjoyable atmosphere without making content.

Titus is clearly trying to shield the REAL scum here, which I don’t think is BM.

your read is right, but it might not matter.

Help me find out who she’s shielding. I think you’re probably a miselim and specifically because of Pooky vs FL, I would prefer you not be the D1 wagon.

War and Peace and I'm willing to explain it.

Hot take, you and War and Peace are both town.

Then? If you were the town stump here where who would you be voting and why.

[Nancy Drew 39]

jesus christ you just called battle mage unlikable and uncharismatic while wanting to eliminate him

That was not my point. My point was to exaggerate the difference. Thats the tell I use on dK but it can be used on any similar play style but will just be less noticeable is all.

no you are a mean person there's no taking it back now

Hey, hey, no personal attacks please. I just want a nice friendly game where we nuke scum. Is that too much to ask?

[Pyro]

Tbh I was expecting more ridicule and frustration from Battle Mage

[Nancy Drew 39]

BM last time got miselimed for being absent, being scummy, he argued more, can't exactly remember all the details but he was met with suspicion pretty early and then mastina cased him into the grave.

This game shares the similarity of someone hard tunneling him convinced it's him, although this time it's because he's playing noticeably in a way that is a lot more towny and agreeable. It's not enough for a high scumread from me but i did notice the difference without Noraa pointing it out to me. BM is quite towny as scum -- I'm not really trying to say we should scumread him for playing protown, it's more just the vibes he gives off than anything else. We've yet to see whether or not he fits to playing with a town agenda or not, i just find the way he's presented himself so far interesting

~Bat

Okay, definitely something to think about. I just don’t want to see anyone get run up this early until I have a broader read on the gamestate but both you and Pyro are agreeing here, so something I probably shouldn’t ignore.

Nancy, can you please quickly summarise for me what the argument from Noraa is, in totality, for me being scum?

I'm assuming it's not purely this thing about me being nice?

That does seem to be her argument based off what she’s been saying in multiple posts. But you were very likeable in Pooky vs FL, so while the so-called “DK tell” may be based on valid reasoning, Pooky vs FL kind’ve debunks that as a good reason for sr you here.

[Pyro]

Since no one's done draft speculation yet, these are the players I think Titus is most likely to pick:

War and Peace (Ircher + samantha97)
Sherlock and Watson (Krazy + PenguinPower)
Starcrossed (Kanna + PookyTheMagicalBear)
Gamma Emerald
Morty and Rick (mastina + Auro)
Dunnstral
Battle Mage

Can you tell me why you think those are her picks? Is it possible that she might have gone an entirely different route to throw me off the track?

They're slots capable of directing mislaunches, and are generally less shitposty/fluffy. This is without considering WIFOM factors or Titus trying to throw you off. These are just the players I think Titus likes and would want on her scumteam generally.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Well now that we know who we are eliminating today, lets talk about other people

We don’t because

I haven’t given my blessing on that yet.

[Battle Mage]

THANK YOU I LOVE YOU ALL PLEASE MAKE THIS WAGON GO THRU I WILL CRY IF HE SLIPS OUT OF MY GRASP

lol man this is not good

I certainly like your vibes though, Not_Mafia impostor.

-Morty

not an impostor, just an admirer.

Let’s not rush this people. I will consult with ALL of my masons/Miss Cleo and figure out the optimal fade. BM got miselimed last game, so how is he playing differently this time?

Unless BM is a mason, he is for sure scum Nancy. I promise you.

you realise running me up to -2 is a surefire way to confirm whether I'm a mason or not? how does that help again?

I'll bite

VOTE: Battle Mage

-S

VOTE: Battle Mage

I’ll bite too, really hard!!

Fey, Sherlock and Watson - can you both talk me through the rationale for these votes?

As for why I fell off, I did not have a great time as seen a night or two ago, and yesterday I was sick so I focused on myself rather than this game. I am busy currently but will be around tonight to resume figuring out the game!

For some very quick lightning reads: I have no opinion on Starcrossed when I believe that they should have made more of an impact on me so far.. they should be easier to identify as town, so the pressure on them is good! In fact, I will join this wagon. VOTE: Starcrossed

I am still thinking about 5uffering due to the slot and how it was earlier. I don’t think I would vote there today.

Also, can someone explain the scumreads? On Saudade for me please.

Some questions if it's worth your time.

I noted that you had a huge argument with Batsunami, even so much that you voted her around #245. How has your read on Batsunami developed and do you still hold her to that conversation? It's a slippery slope and I noted that you two worked out a form of apology, but since then you've mostly acted like it hasn't happened.

Did you read my catch-up wall? It's fine if you didn't. I don't mind reiterating anything I had said, so I would like to know what you think about War and Peace as well, who seemed to have caught your attention the most. Did you switch to Starcrossed just because it seemed like the people who were on it are townie?

I have ignored it if only because it seems best to leave unhappy things behind; I am not sold on the idea of them being obvtown but neither do I think they are worth a vote, and currently find their read on Battle Mage resonating with me; before I had a brief conversation about not worrying about a townblock as much with Battle Mage, and it was not entirely to do with the reads issue! I was beginning to find him scummier if only because he mirrors the feelings I’ve gotten from Ircher: diplomatically slippery. It was more of a pocket read kept close though if only because it seemed better to have him believe I trusted him — also, BM often is pushed or wagoned D1 and I didn’t want to fall prey to such biases unfairly against him..

ah this is interesting. yeah i think i'm still inclined to believe that you're town who just didn't get the hint. although your voting patterns haven't been great subsequently. You're downgraded to more of a townlean now I guess.

VOTE: sherlock and watson

[Nancy Drew 39]

what the fuck is this game

???

[Batsunami]

Tbh I was expecting more ridicule and frustration from Battle Mage

Haha i did mention to Noraa i expected him to mention how he expects me to be better than this or something along those lines, as he usually might. Not complaining though

~Bat

[Saudade]

why is nancy is so certain the town wont rebel against her wishes if she'll be a bad queen

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy I know this is wifom but is it just me or is Titus posting a lot more now that her baby's in danger?

I wouldn’t put it past her to try to get us to think that. I remember FL saying that BM was in his list of scum drafts, so I would think scum!BM probably doesn’t need her help.

[Battle Mage]

BM last time got miselimed for being absent, being scummy, he argued more, can't exactly remember all the details but he was met with suspicion pretty early and then mastina cased him into the grave.

This game shares the similarity of someone hard tunneling him convinced it's him, although this time it's because he's playing noticeably in a way that is a lot more towny and agreeable. It's not enough for a high scumread from me but i did notice the difference without Noraa pointing it out to me. BM is quite towny as scum -- I'm not really trying to say we should scumread him for playing protown, it's more just the vibes he gives off than anything else. We've yet to see whether or not he fits to playing with a town agenda or not, i just find the way he's presented himself so far interesting

~Bat

Okay, definitely something to think about. I just don’t want to see anyone get run up this early until I have a broader read on the gamestate but both you and Pyro are agreeing here, so something I probably shouldn’t ignore.

Nancy, can you please quickly summarise for me what the argument from Noraa is, in totality, for me being scum?

I'm assuming it's not purely this thing about me being nice?

That does seem to be her argument based off what she’s been saying in multiple posts. But you were very likeable in Pooky vs FL, so while the so-called “DK tell” may be based on valid reasoning, Pooky vs FL kind’ve debunks that as a good reason for sr you here.

I don't think the tell makes sense though (even aside from being wrong here). The 'DK tell' is like a half-baked meta argument. The strength of a meta argument is it looks at previous games for alignment indicative trends. the way the 'DK tell' has been applied here means it is explicitly NOT based on alignment indicative trends (namely, my personality/likeability has not previously been linked to my alignment). So I would say the reasoning is not valid, or at least the way it has been presented it bears no value.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Titus would never pick me btw

Why not?