Titus v Nancy Drew (Game Over)

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy I'm gonna stick around the game for good vibes, please veto any wagons on me

-Morty

Battle Mage sends his regards

[Pyro]

Nancy, do you have meta for 5uffering and are they playing like they normally do as town? He feels very performative but people can be performative as town, so it'd be helpful.

First off, can you explain exactly what is meant by “performative”? Does it mean fake? I’m not extremely familiar with 5uffering’s meta to tell you conclusively if they’re town or scum. However I do see a lot more IioA than I’d like from them.

However they straight up claimed vanilla cop when I demanded they claim. something that we have as of yet to see from W & P.

I’m also thinking we might possibly be seeing a town teddy in this game and I’m really vibing with the desert alt.

The way I use performative is when someone makes a post and gives thoughts to look towny and for the purpose to be townread, rather than them being natural thoughts they want to share with everyone.

This at least rules out one player for me.

Do you think the vanilla cop claim is town-indicative? I could see that being a scum-trueclaim too. I don't see it as alignment-indicative.

[5uffering]

If I'm scum I just stick with what works. I run the risk of being hated because I know I'm town, and I know that my thoughts will win out eventually. You're arguing the list itself and the way it's formatted is scummy, not what I actually said.

Incredible.

This deserves a newpage.

[Gamma Emerald]

I actually do SR the content of the list

[Nancy Drew 39]

There's more than you...

I don't really like clidd/Sherlock either there. What are your thoughts on them?

I disagree with your entire premise that scum must be involved in the BM wagon.

I'm not going on a wild goose chase and narrowing POE for no reason into a small subset.

When scum see a very loud townie on the wrong track and banging for a mis-elim, they don't have to help that townie, goad that townie, or get on the wagon. Your entire mindset for figuring this out is wrong.

Your very premise that there MUST be lots of scum involved is flawed.

So you’re thinking that BM was maybe an all town wagon?

[Pyro]

If I'm scum I just stick with what works. I run the risk of being hated because I know I'm town, and I know that my thoughts will win out eventually. You're arguing the list itself and the way it's formatted is scummy, not what I actually said.

Incredible.

Yeah, this is true. If 5uffering wanted to, he could've just split those thoughts into separate posts or not formatted it in that manner. I think we probably shouldn't read too much into the style/formatting choice.

[Morty and Rick]

~Nancy - Auro true MS biographer and appreciater

<3 <3 <3

-Morty

[Starcrossed]

So you’re thinking that BM was maybe an all town wagon?

I'm not saying that there are 0 scum on the wagon.

I'm saying scum are more likely to not be on the wagon because they know BM is flipping red and they know noraa is hard driving the mis-elim through.

5uffering's premise for hunting on wagon is wrong to begin with.

[5uffering]

I actually do SR the content of the list

Sort out your problems then. I can use it to read you, because right now you've been yelling at Italiano who doesn't care and Saudade who only wants to troll you.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Your very premise that there MUST be lots of scum involved is flawed.

Great because I don't feel that way you know? I just mentioned that I thought it was mostly a town affair. I do however think it was a great wagon for scum to be on it and I simply cannot believe no scum were not involved at all.

I don’t understand why you think Starcrossed would even be the most suspicious vote on that wagon. Kanna was probably one of the most reluctant voters on it.

[Pyro]

Sarah hard lurking when asked some hard hitting questions.

[Pyro]

You know what'd help, 5uffering? If you associated what it meant for alignment with each of those takes in that list there. Like a simple 'scummy' or 'slightly towny' and so on.

[5uffering]

Your very premise that there MUST be lots of scum involved is flawed.

Great because I don't feel that way you know? I just mentioned that I thought it was mostly a town affair. I do however think it was a great wagon for scum to be on it and I simply cannot believe no scum were not involved at all.

I don’t understand why you think Starcrossed would even be the most suspicious vote on that wagon. Kanna was probably one of the most reluctant voters on it.

I'm very alert to what they're doing. I would say the absolute worst vote there would probably be Sherlock/Italiano though. Town can make bad votes too, I don't scumread Starcrossed just because they were on a wagon that flipped green, rather I think the way he's handling the situation and how he's been prior just does not match up. This is what of all things riles him up for? I haven't really been able to like kanna's posts either.

[Gamma Emerald]

The things written in that list feel like padding, like you had to force something on every slot. It also seems you’re nischaracterizing/shading a good few people in that

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, do you have meta for 5uffering and are they playing like they normally do as town? He feels very performative but people can be performative as town, so it'd be helpful.

First off, can you explain exactly what is meant by “performative”? Does it mean fake? I’m not extremely familiar with 5uffering’s meta to tell you conclusively if they’re town or scum. However I do see a lot more IioA than I’d like from them.

However they straight up claimed vanilla cop when I demanded they claim. something that we have as of yet to see from W & P.

I’m also thinking we might possibly be seeing a town teddy in this game and I’m really vibing with the desert alt.

The way I use performative is when someone makes a post and gives thoughts to look towny and for the purpose to be townread, rather than them being natural thoughts they want to share with everyone.

This at least rules out one player for me.

Do you think the vanilla cop claim is town-indicative? I could see that being a scum-trueclaim too. I don't see it as alignment-indicative.

It’s difficult to tell with certainty with this specific player. I don’t know but I recall that particular role being a town role in Pooky vs FL.

[5uffering]

Last night I was thinking about BM's death, and his wagon.

Here is everyone's response interpreted around the time of death.

Batsunami:

Was assured it was flipping scum based on

DK Tell

.

Pyro:

Ruminating on the effect of limning BM, while digging into his meta.

Fey:

Enthusiastically agreeing with the situation.

Sherlock:

Goading the situation further by pressuring others to lim the slot based on replacement

Italiano:

Showing up and hammering.

Clidd:

Loosely hinting how he felt about BM but letting the wagon go through anyways, actively passive.

Dunnstral:

Posted a readslist, which had Battle Mage at the very bottom. Recited L-3.

Starcrossed:

Had no reason to be on the wagon or be involved with BM's death.

Red Eye Knights:

Saw a shiny wagon and voted for it. Caught up in the moment.

Morty and Rick:

Happened to get involved by never changing his vote, says it wasn't his fault.

I'll color code it for you.

[Nancy Drew 39]

So you’re thinking that BM was maybe an all town wagon?

I'm not saying that there are 0 scum on the wagon.

I'm saying scum are more likely to not be on the wagon because they know BM is flipping red and they know noraa is hard driving the mis-elim through.

5uffering's premise for hunting on wagon is wrong to begin with.

Green, BM flipped green.

But I think I understand what you mean by that. Yeah, I tend to agree. As scum you ideally would prefer miselims to go through and not get your hands dirty if possible. And this wagon really didn’t need a lot of scum help to get rammed through. It’s still possible there’s at least one scum on it, maybe?

[Morty and Rick]

BATTLE MAGE I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD IT WASN'T MY FAULT THIS TIME.
This is literally my first post on the account this game and I've got 86 pages to read soonish.

(I am quite aware of the irony of my slot being one of the first votes on a D1 BM mislynch but I PROMISE you, it wasn't me THIS time...)

Yay, Mastina is here!

My vote on BM was because I felt he was being very political, at first. Sorry about that >.> Please steer for us lol!

-Morty

Hmm. Someone isn't reading properly.

-Morty

Did you read this?

-Morty

[5uffering]

I don't think Clidd/Sherlock/Italiano/Starcrossed is a scumteam.

I think there is scum in there though.

[Batsunami]

Suffering interpreted mastina's "I swear it wasn't me this time, it wasn't my fault" as a claim from you that you weren't involved, Morty

~Bat

[Batsunami]

Oh, I see you noticed that. lol

~Bat

[5uffering]

The things written in that list feel like padding, like you had to force something on every slot. It also seems you’re nischaracterizing/shading a good few people in that

I don't see the point of this at all. Either go all in on me or be quiet. I at least respect Starcrossed calling me scum.

[Nancy Drew 39]

vote BM then.

is he on e-2? i will do it if nancy approves

~mitsuha

e-3 actually cuz Titus' vote doesn't count

ok then VOTE: battle mage

~mitsuba

@5uffering, is this why you have them in red? Please explain why that’s necessarily scummy?

[Gamma Emerald]

The things written in that list feel like padding, like you had to force something on every slot. It also seems you’re nischaracterizing/shading a good few people in that

I don't see the point of this at all. Either go all in on me or be quiet. I at least respect Starcrossed calling me scum.

I’m not certain about it is the thing

[5uffering]

vote BM then.

is he on e-2? i will do it if nancy approves

~mitsuha

e-3 actually cuz Titus' vote doesn't count

ok then VOTE: battle mage

~mitsuba

@5uffering, is this why you have them in red? Please explain why that’s necessarily scummy?

It's not just the vote, I have just felt really off on their input. If Pooky/Kanna were just having a ball and didn't wanna really care. I could respect that. I could be fine with it. This isn't true though, and kanna feels responsible to engage the game seriously in ways that form no conclusions. Pooky doesn't really do it any favors as well because he mostly excuses this in a playful way even going so far to say stuff like 'kanna will obvtown for me'.