Newbie 2055: City Lights [game over!]

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

SAD FACE OF SCUMMINESS

huh? What is this in response to?

[fairyprincess69]

UNVOTE:

pick a direction for us

what questions are most pressing to you right now

what are you most curious about outside of non-posters

how do we learn what we want to know

liked this

[FBJim]

@flow trap Idk why I used quotation marks other than it felt right prose-wise.

for weeby context, other than wiki and reading past newbie games, my experience is basically from a werewolf-based visual novel where it was said that no-eliminate D1 was the best move, which i don't think anyone thinks here. so the whole concept of RVS was like "what are players even supposed to do here " for a bit

[fairyprincess69]

what's behind your townread on vasex, by the way? responses bothered me at the moment but i'm finding them relatively easy to read as legitimately upset.

yuo read vasex as upset? that's a strange takeaway. their response was a bit OMGUSSY but not overly emotional in my estimation. why can't this be upset scum, anyway?

[flow trap]

SAD FACE OF SCUMMINESS

huh? What is this in response to?

Ah right, it's probably not a joke here

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Now I'm even more curious, what is the joke and what is the post you're responding to?

[fairyprincess69]

noting that jim now townreads vasex on 140 despite saying "their responses bothered me" on 133. i find 133 suspicious in its own right, and the 180° is pretty glaring. gut theory is jim is backing down on this vasex push only because HUB townreads vasex. i think mafia are likely to defer to the town leaders.

[team rocket queen]

I still don't understand why that makes every post alignment indicative because people with informed perspectives usually do not give clues to their perspective in their posts.

they do constantly, and most often players give clues that they do not have an informed perspective,

[FBJim]

what's behind your townread on vasex, by the way? responses bothered me at the moment but i'm finding them relatively easy to read as legitimately upset.

yuo read vasex as upset? that's a strange takeaway. their response was a bit OMGUSSY but not overly emotional in my estimation. why can't this be upset scum, anyway?

if not emotional, it felt like it fit a town player getting scum-read. hard to answer the second question because it really is mostly tone read, not just that confrontation but general tone since then. if he got accurately scumread that early i think he'd change up his activity level or tone and i haven't seen either of that.

[team rocket queen]

Side question, why is TRQ called Jessie?

i prefer it to trq as an abbreviation, since people wish not to type out team rocket queen, but i sound trq as 'trek' in my head and i do not like that sound

[team rocket queen]

only the tiniest of pings from the more useful bit - potentially shows they're self conscious about being perceived as fillery/scummy?

common for ydrasse

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

am I tripping balls or did your preferred pronoun change princess?

hopefully this isn't weird but I also want to make sure I'm not going Krazy

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

common for ydrasse

expand on this?

[team rocket queen]

common for ydrasse

expand on this?

i've seen it from her as both town and mafia, the future content thing, more heavily in a town game, which she referenced earlier, so she's also aware, so would be a strange tactic for her to lean on as mafia, but not super super unlikely either

[team rocket queen]

that's why i said it was a deep well; she has returned to it many times, implication being 'is it empty this time?'

[FBJim]

noting that jim now townreads vasex on 140 despite saying "their responses bothered me" on 133. i find 133 suspicious in its own right, and the 180° is pretty glaring. gut theory is jim is backing down on this vasex push only because HUB townreads vasex. i think mafia are likely to defer to the town leaders.

i mishandled the confrontation with Vasex to begin with by taking it to weird rhetorical/logical game stuff that wasn't helpful in retrospect.

mentioned earlier that i didn't really get the rhythm of RVS so there was a bit of "god i gotta scumread *someone * going on"

tldr i decided i had overreacted /lost confidence in the initial read of buddy times w/ another poster on page 1 votes in the first place

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

did your sig say "please call me jessie" before?

[team rocket queen]

did your sig say "please call me jessie" before?

yes; it has said that since i decided to play another game on this account after the two newbies, whenever i signed up for silent star 3

[team rocket queen]

did your sig say "please call me jessie" before?

yes; it has said that since i decided to play another game on this account after the two newbies, whenever i signed up for silent star 3

it also follows the naming pattern of most of my other accounts, if treated as 'jessie'

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

wow lol

I am like blind or something today

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

in fairness I think I never actually read the text of flow trap's sig either until right now wondering what else I had missed, somehow I think I've conditioned myself to just totally block out sigs, which is weird because I do actually have them enabled

[fairyprincess69]

FBJim, are you sure that I'm mafia scum?

no. that's not what a day 1 vote or even wagon implies.

I didn't say that all mafia is definetely there. I believe that one of them can be there. This is talking about nothing. We can talk the whole game about 1/9 chance of having the definite role. So what? Not to hang anybody? This is not about the Math, though it can be useful sometimes here.

Honestly I'd better search for mafia firstly among not much talkative persons, but in the same time I don't like FBJim arguments about me.

your argument read to me like "Well, since I'm town, one of the three people voting for me must be scum" which- even if the first part is true, the second part doesn't follow from that.


i do agree that there are people who haven't posted much yet, but it's the (literal) first day.

i mean i think you have a perfectly defensible argument here, vasex's argument was difficult to understand and i don't think you were getting caught up in anything unproductive, so i do find the halt on this line of inquiry just.. strange.

[team rocket queen]

players give clues that they do not have an informed perspective

230

[FBJim]

i think he was wrong there. but this isn't really a logical fallacies game because anyone can make mistakes. and i think "omg im getting wagonned, someone involved must be scum" isn't that unreasonable, even if it's not necessarily logically sound


also outside the game i react poorly to "ah ah logical fallacy" debating styles which probably bled through there.

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

also outside the game i react poorly to "ah ah logical fallacy" debating styles which probably bled through there.

Ah ah, FBJim poisoning the well against accusations of logical fallacies! Gottem!