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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:17 pm

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In post 299, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:
In post 298, FBJim wrote:also outside the game i react poorly to "ah ah logical fallacy" debating styles which probably bled through there.
Ah ah, FBJim poisoning the well against accusations of logical fallacies! Gottem!
having dealt with the types of people who argue that way irl i literally felt kind of dirty doing the whole "well actually logically speaking" thing
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:18 pm

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agree that logical fallacies are fine and town often make illogical arguments etc, but i'm not sure if you pressed on him sufficiently to deduce that the bad logic was coming from town. i'm also still not sure if anger or any kind of strong emotion was particularly reflected in his posts
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:19 pm

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I'm not sure that rejecting all logical fallacies makes games easier but it does make them less likely to be very unpleasant

mostly shutting down AtE
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:20 pm

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it felt more intense and heated at the time especially as one of the involved parties
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:20 pm

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as a purveyor of lunar logic...
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:22 pm

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In post 195, team rocket queen wrote:hm well if flow trap is mafia happy unbirthday boon is probably town since 'ahh that was a towny response i might be wrong about this' would make the counter wagon on fbjim ineffectual
can you explain this more i don't understand it
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:25 pm

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In post 305, fairyprincess69 wrote:can you explain this more i don't understand it
flow trap had notable pressure on them at the time and happy unbirthday boon's immediate response to fbjim's response to his wagon was 'well that was towny'
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:25 pm

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In post 306, team rocket queen wrote:flow trap had notable pressure on them at the time and happy unbirthday boon's immediate response to fbjim's response to his wagon was 'well that was towny'
so if the intention was to divert pressure from flow trap or to create equivalent pressure elsewhere that would have been a weird thing to say
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:26 pm

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In post 307, team rocket queen wrote:so if the intention was to divert pressure from flow trap or to create equivalent pressure elsewhere that would have been a weird thing to say
thus unlikely partnered mafias
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:28 pm

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In post 166, Happy Unbirthday Boon wrote:ngl, that blatant attempt to enter the Russiablock is kinda townie
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:29 pm

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their, sorry
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:31 pm

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ah ok that's an interesting analysis

i'm not sure if it's anything conclusive since flow trap is gonna attract pressure regardless of what HUB does, but i like your initiative
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:33 pm

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Vasex was just like Idk how to even express this, "wrong in the right way?" like not the kind of mistakes someone with perfect knowledge of player alignments would make.

if it's fake it seemed like a hard ass thing to fake
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:34 pm

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jim is princess going up or down for you?
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:37 pm

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up I think but like flow trap said i think i may be naturally inclined to responding positively to that that posting style which is a personal liability i want to keep in mind

trying to put that aside it's genuine attempts to engage and nothing suspicious for me even when deliberately trying to be skeptical
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:39 pm

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In post 305, fairyprincess69 wrote:
In post 195, team rocket queen wrote:hm well if flow trap is mafia happy unbirthday boon is probably town since 'ahh that was a towny response i might be wrong about this' would make the counter wagon on fbjim ineffectual
can you explain this more i don't understand it
why were you looking at this at that moment?
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:49 pm

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i was just reading through the thread since i wasnt fully caught up yet

i don't have any particular scumread or anything that sticks out to me massively so far, which is alarming and making me think at least 1 of these SE's is maf, but i like HUB and jessie and ydrasse feels a bit votey-baity, so who the heck knows

vasex being town is something i'm pretty confident in at the moment though
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:52 pm

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fbjim seems alright to me right now

flow trap probably still mafia? i skimmed, im tired, i just read those posts and i think "oh wow, this feels scummy." might be confirmation-biasing my self into it but nothing has made me waver from it.

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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:53 pm

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i get the feeling of making arbitrary groups for scum, but also there's not a whole lot of logic in... basing a solve off of something like that, imo. it's comforting to have confines to work in but you're better off just trying to scumhunt independently of those sorts of labels

if you had to offer a solve, fairy, who would you put in it as scum?
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:53 pm

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its proooobably something like kittytacky/flow trap for me.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:55 pm

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oh i dodged a sr or something?

i'm going to be honest: they just don't affect me much when i'm playing like this, which is me popping in when i feel like it and offering my words of wisdom before flittering away. it's probably hard to get a grasp on but youre best off putting pressure elsewhere.

if i really Have To i'll make it clear i'm town.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:25 pm

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why kittytacky?
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:32 pm

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In post 258, flow trap wrote:Vassex can you tell me 1 thing scummy about HUB?
Nothing serious.
I tried to find the most townie to follow it and I think I found it.
The most townie action it does: he bravely gives many "colors" (gives roles/sides to players, omg I don't know how to say this simple in-game thing). And he was the first doing this so much. With a light hand, if it is possible to say like that.
I will think much about its possible mafia role if it will be alive too long. Because he looks like a good leader of the town.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 319, Ydrasse wrote:its proooobably something like kittytacky/flow trap for me.
In post 199, flow trap wrote::facepalm: This clears a KT+FT pairing right
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:34 pm

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In post 260, flow trap wrote:Oh yeah, almost forgot

VOTE: Vasex
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